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A Traffic Ticket Away from Deportation
Immigration by Guidy Mamann
May 19, 2008 06:40

Should a driving conviction ever be enough to deport a permanent resident from Canada?

This is essentially the question that the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness is asking in an appeal filed last week with the Federal Court of Appeal.

The case involves Shazam Ali who emigrated from Guyana to Canada in 1995 with his mother, brother, and four sisters.

In March 1998 he robbed a woman at knifepoint in the underground garage of his apartment building in an apparent attempt to feed his recently acquired addiction to crack cocaine. He forced her into the back of his car, tied her up, and drove her to a bank machine where he used her bankcard to withdraw $400.00 in cash. He then drove to a hotel and left her in the back seat with the motor running while he tried to check in. His victim succeeded in loosening her bonds and escaped.


In January 1999 he was convicted of kidnapping and robbery and was sentenced to 20 months imprisonment including ten months of pre-trial custody.

Consequently, a deportation order was made against him in March 2000.

He appealed the order to the Immigration and Refugee Board where he got very lucky. The Board noted that Ali had no previous criminal record and that although the offence was serious it was also “aberrant” and found that “it is not likely the appellant will re-offend”. The Board granted him a 5-year stay on the condition that he “keep the peace and be of good behaviour”.

The order meant that as long as Ali behaved himself for 5 years, he would be allowed to stay in Canada. If he breached the stay in any way, he would automatically be sent home without any further recourse.


As the five-year mark approached, Ali had avoided any further criminal activity and must have been looking forward to the cancellation of his deportation order.

However, just eight days before the completion of the stay-period, the Minister served notice that Ali’s stay should be cancelled.

The reason?

Ali had been convicted of five traffic offences during the five-year stay period, namely: driving with no plates, operating an unsafe vehicle, fail to surrender insurance, unsafe lane change, and speeding…70 km in a 50 km zone.


The Minister argued that these offences, although not criminal, breached his undertaking to “keep the peace and be of good behaviour”. The Minister took the position that with respect to any federal, provincial, or municipal statutes “any failure to abide, no matter how trivial, is a breach of [this] condition.”

The IRB and the Federal Court Trial Division disagreed with the Minister who is now appealing those decisions to the Federal Court of Appeal.

No doubt, Ali scored big when he won himself a second chance at the IRB. While many would no doubt love to see him go, if Ali loses the appeal it will have a tremendous impact on other permanent residents in similar circumstances who are bound by the same provision but who have been convicted of far less serious crimes and who are clearly deserving of a meaningful second chance.

They may not be aware that the next time they go 20 kms over the speed limit they could be losing their “second chance” to stay in the country.

Guidy Mamann practices law in Toronto at Mamann & Associates and is certified by the Law Society of Upper Canada as an immigration specialist. Reach him confidentially at 416-862-0000 or at metro@migrationlaw.com

http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/comment/article/55744
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A Traffic Ticket Away from Deportation
Immigration by Guidy Mamann
May 19, 2008 06:40

Should a driving conviction ever be enough to deport a permanent resident from Canada?

This is essentially the question that the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness is asking in an appeal filed last week with the Federal Court of Appeal.

The case involves Shazam Ali who emigrated from Guyana to Canada in 1995 with his mother, brother, and four sisters.

In March 1998 he robbed a woman at knifepoint in the underground garage of his apartment building in an apparent attempt to feed his recently acquired addiction to crack cocaine. He forced her into the back of his car, tied her up, and drove her to a bank machine where he used her bankcard to withdraw $400.00 in cash. He then drove to a hotel and left her in the back seat with the motor running while he tried to check in. His victim succeeded in loosening her bonds and escaped.


In January 1999 he was convicted of kidnapping and robbery and was sentenced to 20 months imprisonment including ten months of pre-trial custody.

Consequently, a deportation order was made against him in March 2000.

He appealed the order to the Immigration and Refugee Board where he got very lucky. The Board noted that Ali had no previous criminal record and that although the offence was serious it was also “aberrant” and found that “it is not likely the appellant will re-offend”. The Board granted him a 5-year stay on the condition that he “keep the peace and be of good behaviour”.

The order meant that as long as Ali behaved himself for 5 years, he would be allowed to stay in Canada. If he breached the stay in any way, he would automatically be sent home without any further recourse.


As the five-year mark approached, Ali had avoided any further criminal activity and must have been looking forward to the cancellation of his deportation order.

However, just eight days before the completion of the stay-period, the Minister served notice that Ali’s stay should be cancelled.

The reason?

Ali had been convicted of five traffic offences during the five-year stay period, namely: driving with no plates, operating an unsafe vehicle, fail to surrender insurance, unsafe lane change, and speeding…70 km in a 50 km zone.


The Minister argued that these offences, although not criminal, breached his undertaking to “keep the peace and be of good behaviour”. The Minister took the position that with respect to any federal, provincial, or municipal statutes “any failure to abide, no matter how trivial, is a breach of [this] condition.”

The IRB and the Federal Court Trial Division disagreed with the Minister who is now appealing those decisions to the Federal Court of Appeal.

No doubt, Ali scored big when he won himself a second chance at the IRB. While many would no doubt love to see him go, if Ali loses the appeal it will have a tremendous impact on other permanent residents in similar circumstances who are bound by the same provision but who have been convicted of far less serious crimes and who are clearly deserving of a meaningful second chance.

They may not be aware that the next time they go 20 kms over the speed limit they could be losing their “second chance” to stay in the country.

Guidy Mamann practices law in Toronto at Mamann & Associates and is certified by the Law Society of Upper Canada as an immigration specialist. Reach him confidentially at 416-862-0000 or at metro@migrationlaw.com

http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/comment/article/55744


For these dumb offences: driving with no plates, operating an unsafe vehicle, fail to surrender insurance

His butt should be deported! for being stupid.

1. How the hell you are going to drive a vehicle with no plates and you have that deportation dangling over your head?

2. Failing to surrender insurance!

Send his tail home!
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Quote wrot!!![For these dumb offences: driving with no plates, operating an unsafe vehicle, fail to surrender insurance

His butt should be deported! for being stupid.

1. How the hell you are going to drive a vehicle with no plates and you have that deportation dangling over your head?

2. Failing to surrender insurance!

Send his tail home!

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You will love to see your brothers come home and shoot up some more people..

Canadians do more dumb things than those listed above.. In America, the democrates would give them licences to drive and free plates after serving some time.. Big Grin
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In March 1998 he robbed a woman at knifepoint in the underground garage of his apartment building in an apparent attempt to feed his recently acquired addiction to crack cocaine. He forced her into the back of his car, tied her up, and drove her to a bank machine where he used her bankcard to withdraw $400.00 in cash. He then drove to a hotel and left her in the back seat with the motor running while he tried to check in. His victim succeeded in loosening her bonds and escaped.

In January 1999 he was convicted of kidnapping and robbery and was sentenced to 20 months imprisonment including ten months of pre-trial custody.

Consequently, a deportation order was made against him in March 2000.


Rama,this son of the soil seemed to have mastered his craft in the Jane-Finch area.That place is now like a war zone.
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In March 1998 he robbed a woman at knifepoint in the underground garage of his apartment building in an apparent attempt to feed his recently acquired addiction to crack cocaine. He forced her into the back of his car, tied her up, and drove her to a bank machine where he used her bankcard to withdraw $400.00 in cash. He then drove to a hotel and left her in the back seat with the motor running while he tried to check in. His victim succeeded in loosening her bonds and escaped.

In January 1999 he was convicted of kidnapping and robbery and was sentenced to 20 months imprisonment including ten months of pre-trial custody.

Consequently, a deportation order was made against him in March 2000.


Rama,this son of the soil seemed to have mastered his craft in the Jane-Finch area.That place is now like a war zone.


The Italians kicking their butts..
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[quote]The Italians kicking their butts..

Talk about the destruction of community.That place used to serve as gateway for many immigrant West Indians back in 70s.
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[quote]The Italians kicking their butts..

Talk about the destruction of community.That place used to serve as gateway for many immigrant West Indians back in 70s.


Still is... especially Jamaicans and Guyanese...
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Still is... especially Jamaicans and Guyanese...


They are the ones presently doing the damage.
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Still is... especially Jamaicans and Guyanese...


They are the ones presently doing the damage.


I say send them back even for traffic offences. Their actions reflect badly on our communities.
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I say send them back even for traffic offences. Their actions reflect badly on our communities

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I say send them back even for traffic offences. Their actions reflect badly on our communities.


These problems exist here in many of our cities.Our courtrooms are filled with many who each and everyday continue to bring shame to our nationalities.
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by Ireton:
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Still is... especially Jamaicans and Guyanese...


They are the ones presently doing the damage.


I say send them back even for traffic offences. Their actions reflect badly on our communities.


I think that was Rama in that story you know. He's a old thief!
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I think that was Rama in that story you know. He's a old thief!


Nah, Rama and my aunt are fighting the Sikhs in Brampton Wink
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Ali had been convicted of five traffic offences during the five-year stay period, namely: driving with no plates, operating an unsafe vehicle, fail to surrender insurance, unsafe lane change, and speeding…70 km in a 50 km zone.


Some of these offences fall under the Criminal code...a person in his situation should strive to keep his nose clean.
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Ali had been convicted of five traffic offences during the five-year stay period, namely: driving with no plates, operating an unsafe vehicle, fail to surrender insurance, unsafe lane change, and speeding…70 km in a 50 km zone.


Some of these offences fall under the Criminal code...a person in his situation should strive to keep his nose clean.


An accident causing death or a hit and run are the only ones punishable by jail sentences..
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In March 1998 he robbed a woman at knifepoint in the underground garage of his apartment building in an apparent attempt to feed his recently acquired addiction to crack cocaine.

In January 1999 he was convicted of kidnapping and robbery and was sentenced to 20 months imprisonment including ten months of pre-trial custody.

Consequently, a deportation order was made against him in March 2000.

He appealed the order to the Immigration and Refugee Board where he got very lucky.

The Board granted him a 5-year stay on the condition that he “keep the peace and be of good behaviour”.

If he breached the stay in any way, he would automatically be sent home without any further recourse.

As the five-year mark approached, Ali had avoided any further criminal activity and must have been looking forward to the cancellation of his deportation order.

However, just eight days before the completion of the stay-period, the Minister served notice that Ali’s stay should be cancelled.

The reason?

Ali had been convicted of five traffic offences during the five-year stay period, namely: driving with no plates, operating an unsafe vehicle, fail to surrender insurance, unsafe lane change, and speeding…70 km in a 50 km zone.

1. If the issues were for the kidnapping, etc., ... I can see grounds for the Minister to seek deportation.

2. For these traffic offences -- that would leave the appearances that the Minster is a Vigilante, splitting hairs plus he and his staff are being vindictive.

3. It is doubtful that a Judge would grant the Minister's wishes.
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
An accident causing death or a hit and run are the only ones punishable by jail sentences..


Highway Traffic Act & Criminal Code both apply here...
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