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Mara
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Originally posted by TK:

Now, you did not answer my question. You set out some conditions under which someone can make a meaningful contribution to GY. I want to know whether you yourself apply to them. I dont have to be embarrassed. Furthermore, you do not set my agenda! I'm not writing an acedemic paper in GNI. We're dealing here with raw Guyanese politics. So did you read Ramharack and Secharran to complement your West on Trial?


I fail to see how what I have stated can be construed as all encompassing/ exclusive conditions for meaningful contribution to Gy. I clearly stated that I find it grating to the nerve when the verbage is emmenating from those with old axes to grind and questionable past. I don't know anything about you save for your particapation here. However if the time tested old adge 'Your company bespeak of your character' still holds true, then my assessment could not be terribly off mark.

Although my familiarity with both Ramaharack and Seecharran's writings and politics are limited in scope, and I may have some difference with their opinion, I believe both of these gentlemen are respectful and objective in their criticism. And yes, I do hold myself to the same standard I expect from others. I believe those who have been around here for a while knows that Jagdeo and this current lot in power, are not folks I admire.
Nippy
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Guyana's politics is never easy
marlon
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Originally posted by Mara:
quote:
Originally posted by TK:

Now, you did not answer my question. You set out some conditions under which someone can make a meaningful contribution to GY. I want to know whether you yourself apply to them. I dont have to be embarrassed. Furthermore, you do not set my agenda! I'm not writing an acedemic paper in GNI. We're dealing here with raw Guyanese politics. So did you read Ramharack and Secharran to complement your West on Trial?


I fail to see how what I have stated can be construed as all encompassing/ exclusive conditions for meaningful contribution to Gy. I clearly stated that I find it grating to the nerve when the verbage is emmenating from those with old axes to grind and questionable past. I don't know anything about you save for your particapation here. However if the time tested old adge 'Your company bespeak of your character' still holds true, then my assessment could not be terribly off mark.

Although my familiarity with both Ramaharack and Seecharran's writings and politics are limited in scope, and I may have some difference with their opinion, I believe both of these gentlemen are respectful and objective in their criticism. And yes, I do hold myself to the same standard I expect from others.

I believe those who have been around here for a while knows that Jagdeo and this current lot in power, are not folks I admire.I can see your are on the Right side.......Unlike Rama, Nehru and Ken
stalin
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Stalin: What are you doing for the Indians in Guyana? Remember, ROAR is dead and you with your Phd. in economics and teaching at some insignificant college in Florida, instead of going back to Guyana and helping the Indians that ROAR supposedly speaks for.

You are a graduate of Accabre, so who is a turncoat? You condemn the PPP and they were the ones who nurtured your education.

So who is the turncoat? You educated fool.



Actually The New College of Florida is THE BEST PUBLIC liberal arts college in America. Do a google search. Overall, it is one of the country's best honors colleges (private+public). Our average SAT intake is 1440. Check it out for yourself!

I'm a researcher on developing economies-Guyana being one of them. UG does not have the research support for that. And the PPP boys were playing games with my application for Director of Research at the BOG when they last advertised. Put dat in yuh pipe and smoke it!

Again, you by blindly supporting the PPP is the ultimate turncoat, PERIOD!

PPP did not nurture my education, period! Accrabre is an ideological training camp and has nothing to do with education. And herein lies the problem.


TK,

I understand why you hate the Jagans and the PPP. You did not get the job at BOG or youn mean GOG. I heard that you were unqualified to fill the position. When the GOG checked your references and qualifications, it appears that you were a C student in College and there was some allegation that you were once investigated for trying to bribe your professor. This is from someone who went to school with you.

I would like you to put these rumors to rest by posting your transcript. I don't think you are that kind of a person. Anyhow let me know.

Long live the Jagans and their political ideology.

Long live the PPP

Down with US brainwashed educated economists, like yourself
Alexander
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Stalin, you hitting the professor hard. He means well.
stalin
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Originally posted by Burhamson:
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Originally posted by bird:
Silence is golden to forgive is devine. Wink


Jagan was a dense denist who knew nothing about the Law and politics. In 1857 election Jagan won. what was he doing during those rulings? play doctor with his porcelain doll?


Burnhamson,

[Edited].... You should read the history books before you write on this forum.

[Edited]..

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Alexander
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He is not exactly the son of Burnham, he is Burhamson. Maybe one of his sons from Enmore.
Chief
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MARA: On the button Stalin! beer These shameless boot licking, ....political harlots and concubine would stop at nothing to denigrate folks whose boots they are not qualify to shine. Notice it is the former lap pooches and PNC soup drinkers who are the ones foaming most at the mouth- perhaps a symptom of withdrawal from Kabaka-al-la-caca.

I don't believe anyone would claim that Cheddie Jagan was flawless in the political arena. In fact there are numerous instances in his long and arduous struggle, where one can site mis-steps, mis-calculations, and outright blunders, where his wiley opponent seized the moment to out manuoveure and out gun him. Mistakes were made. Opportunities were lost. People get frustrated and demotivated. Some moved on. Others without choices or for personal reason stayed and burn and occassionally get knock down. But the true champions among them with grits & guts pick up and continue the struggle. For that they should be commended, and villified by wapya mouths.

To err is human. To forgive is golden. But to continue to howl and moan like bytches in heat is only the prerogratives of antimen and harlots.


SO what is your point?


he just love to curse Kidmost.
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Originally posted by TK:
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Stalin: What are you doing for the Indians in Guyana? Remember, ROAR is dead and you with your Phd. in economics and teaching at some insignificant college in Florida, instead of going back to Guyana and helping the Indians that ROAR supposedly speaks for.

You are a graduate of Accabre, so who is a turncoat? You condemn the PPP and they were the ones who nurtured your education.

So who is the turncoat? You educated fool.



Actually The New College of Florida is THE BEST PUBLIC liberal arts college in America. Do a google search. Overall, it is one of the country's best honors colleges (private+public). Our average SAT intake is 1440. Check it out for yourself!

I'm a researcher on developing economies-Guyana being one of them. UG does not have the research support for that. And the PPP boys were playing games with my application for Director of Research at the BOG when they last advertised. Put dat in yuh pipe and smoke it!

Again, you by blindly supporting the PPP is the ultimate turncoat, PERIOD!

PPP did not nurture my education, period! Accrabre is an ideological training camp and has nothing to do with education. And herein lies the problem.


TK,

I understand why you hate the Jagans and the PPP. You did not get the job at BOG or youn mean GOG. I heard that you were unqualified to fill the position. When the GOG checked your references and qualifications, it appears that you were a C student in College and there was some allegation that you were once investigated for trying to bribe your professor. This is from someone who went to school with you.

I would like you to put these rumors to rest by posting your transcript. I don't think you are that kind of a person. Anyhow let me know.

Long live the Jagans and their political ideology.

Long live the PPP

Down with US brainwashed educated economists, like yourself
What sort of crap is this? I am surprised at this methodology for attacking a man. It is dispicable. If you don't like what he says, fine. Do your best to deconstruct them on his terms and show that they are flawed. I am sure the Jagans do not need to be associated with this. It is scandalous and rather stupid.

A word of advice, if you are going to say something negative about a man be sure is is from first hand source. It is low down and less than cur-like behavior to bring a negative "story" here and introduce it with "I heard". This kind of second hand garbage from you is truly astounding. And the gall for asking the man to put down rumors!...quit listening to the shit and your problem would be over! If you need to test the man's aptitude you do so by demonstrating you are smart yourself to go toe to toe on his opinions.


I also do not know that the last line is supposed to mean.
Chief
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Chief I was present at the meeting you mentioned.....he did not say that "nothing was wrong with the constitution".....he stated that there were other priorities to be attended to which included the rebuilding of the physical and social infastrutures which were destroyed by the PNC......


What????
Churchy come on now don't pull that bull. He did say that it was not a priority
bnecuse nothing is wrong with the constitution , he said what is wrong if there is a bad President only then the constitution becomes bad.
The rest is history Jagan did nothing to effect any change to the dictator constitution, his sad ass passed away and today Guyana is in shambles.
Chief
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As fas as "locking up Cheddi" Burnham did not have the guts to do that....in fact the British never jailed Burnham as he was their puppet.....


By the same token one can conclude that Jagan was Burnham's puppet.
Chief
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STALIN: They always prostitute off of poor Indians.



I would say you are the real political prostitute and *****! You are the ultimate turncoat and traitor to the poor Indian people by not questioning the PPP. You follow the PPP's failed leaders at FH like you have no mind of your own. You have no intellectual dignity! You open the PPP to the classic case of moral hazard - where they do not have to be a better party. Turncoats like you are responsible for delivering to the poor Indos the FAILED PPP!!!



panman
TK you propa trashing ass.
Chief
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Originally posted by Burhamson:


Do you have stats to show us that Burnham rigged the election?

Cheddi was a communist and was boooted out by JFK. so stop blaming Burnham, and stop propagating your version. I suggest that you read your history and then come back and write properly.


History is saying your daddy was a brutal dictator that started the decay that Guyana is in.
Chief
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Originally posted by Nippy:
Guyana's politics is never easy


That is all you can say?
Mr.T
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Originally posted by Burhamson:
Do you have stats to show us that Burnham rigged the election?

Cheddi was a communist and was boooted out by JFK. so stop blaming Burnham, and stop propagating your version. I suggest that you read your history and then come back and write properly.

Guiana was then a British colony, so there is no way that the US could have been involved in British colonial internal affairs without cooperation from Britain and British Guianese politicians earmarked to fill any void left by Jagan. Who else in Guiana other than Jagan and the PPP would there be to talk to in order to pull off the coup?

And another thing: who wrote the Guyanese history over the period that you wish us to read? the PPP or the PNC?
Churchill
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Originally posted by Churchill:


Chief I was present at the meeting you mentioned.....he did not say that "nothing was wrong with the constitution".....he stated that there were other priorities to be attended to which included the rebuilding of the physical and social infastrutures which were destroyed by the PNC......


What????
Churchy come on now don't pull that bull. He did say that it was not a priority
bnecuse nothing is wrong with the constitution , he said what is wrong if there is a bad President only then the constitution becomes bad.
The rest is history Jagan did nothing to effect any change to the dictator constitution, his sad ass passed away and today Guyana is in shambles.



Chief read my post carefully and please try to understand or else I might have to write it slowly for you.....

Cheddi was just a few months in office when asked the question about the constitution.....he stated that at that point in time there were OTHER priorities to take care of.......
Nippy
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Originally posted by Nippy:
Guyana's politics is never easy


That is all you can say?


Chief Elite Member Location: Long Island
Registered:: March 27, 2001 Posts: 34268 Posted June 27, 2008 04:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Nehru:
I was never a big fan of Cheddi for his Policies but I was a Great admirer of the Great man for his HONESTY, WISDOM. INTELLIGENCE, HUMANITY and for looking out for the "Small" Man.



quote:
CHIEF SAYS: The man had his good qualities and so was Burnham.


I agree with your above assessment (the man, Cheddi, had his good qualities)
HOWEVER, I cant equate the faults of Cheddi with the evil of FORBES
and his Chief EXECUTIONER along with the PNC (except the few decent and dedicated members) for bringing Guyana within the poorest of nations within its hemisphere.

Under the watchful and greedy eyes of Forbes, the souls of Guyanese were sold to the highest bidder ... the whims and fancies of external forces.

External Forces that funded the extermination, executions, and savage murders
of many activists and innocent souls including Dr Walter Rodney, Father Darke etc etc

and I can continue,...
however, I can see with you that all Parties have room for improvement;
all Parties have the good , the bad and the ugly. The ugly cowboys, including
those who love to shoot in the air should be appropriately relocated and relagated.
The inefficient and failures should be replaced and the good lauded.
TK
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STALIN:

TK,

I understand why you hate the Jagans and the PPP. You did not get the job at BOG or youn mean GOG. I heard that you were unqualified to fill the position. When the GOG checked your references and qualifications, it appears that you were a C student in College and there was some allegation that you were once investigated for trying to bribe your professor. This is from someone who went to school with you.

I would like you to put these rumors to rest by posting your transcript. I don't think you are that kind of a person. Anyhow let me know.

Long live the Jagans and their political ideology.

Long live the PPP

Down with US brainwashed educated economists, like yourself



Ow, poor Stalin. I have to pity you Stalin (or should I say Pol Pot?). But for those who do not understand, Stalin is demonstrating classic PPP modus operandi whereby they compensate for their perpetual low level intellectual trap by spreading rumors and misinformation. Fortunately, my employer has my transcript. I’m not obliged to please a discredited Jagan sycophant on GNI. Hence, I need not post my transcript here. But even more important: in my line of business grades don’t matter; ideas do.

But for your information, I graduated with distinction from UG (in 1996), got a distinction average at the University of Manchester (in 2000) and got a 3.9/4 GPA for my 60 credit PhD coursework (in 2006). Thus, I can safely say my performance at university was above C-average throughout.

No wonder you guys cannot run a country. It should be no surprise, then, why your type wiggle and fiddle along.

Regarding the BOG job, I was offered the position (in 2007) but there was a big catch. I can never be micromanaged and I will never kiss anyone’s ass. You people need to understand the true mechanisms of the PPP and our so-called leaders in Guyana. I have an offer letter to verify this.

I was criticizing the PPP and the Jagans since Jan 12, 1998. Yes, on that day I saw the failures of the PPP and Jagans firsthand. Remember, I was a founding member of ROAR? If I really need a little PPP job I will shut up and be a sycophant just like you Stalin…but I prefer to compete in the most competitive market for economists on the planet – the great USofA!

Now, what can you say about the market for economists in the former Soviet Union where your boy trained?
TK
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MARA: I fail to see how what I have stated can be construed as all encompassing/ exclusive conditions for meaningful contribution to Gy. I clearly stated that I find it grating to the nerve when the verbage is emmenating from those with old axes to grind and questionable past. I don't know anything about you save for your particapation here. However if the time tested old adge 'Your company bespeak of your character' still holds true, then my assessment could not be terribly off mark.

Although my familiarity with both Ramaharack and Seecharran's writings and politics are limited in scope, and I may have some difference with their opinion, I believe both of these gentlemen are respectful and objective in their criticism. And yes, I do hold myself to the same standard I expect from others. I believe those who have been around here for a while knows that Jagdeo and this current lot in power, are not folks I admire.



Mara, your attempt to wiggle out of the tried and tested PPP mechanism is feeble.

Anyhow, your point is taken vis a vis the Jagdeo Administration.

And on my part, I should apologize for uplifting Kidmost’s obscenities while debunking yours. Having said that, I don’t know who Kidmost is. But his position on the PPP is quite similar to mine so I suspect he might be one of those old ROAR guys.
Nehru
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I'm a researcher on developing economies-Guyana being one of them. UG does not have the research support for that. And the PPP boys were playing games with my application for Director of Research at the BOG when they last advertised. Put dat in yuh pipe and smoke it!


HAHAHA I rest my case. Thank you for being HONEST!!!
Nehru
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Canecutta, Do you know anything about Communism??? Or you simply like to spew garbage?? The GREAT CHEDDI JAGAN was passionate about Commerce and Business. However, he wAS EQUALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT AntiColonialism!!!!
TK
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Nehru: HAHAHA I rest my case. Thank you for being HONEST!!!


And I guess your mode of operation is that of a poof?