Guyanese urged to condemn PNCR
The People’s National Congress Reform Leader, Robert Corbin, has continued to portray a most unpatriotic attitude. Recently a motion was tabled in the National Assembly on the food price increases. His refusal to have the PNCR support the motion was as unreasonable as his constant attacks against the Joint Services.

Corbin claimed that he could not support the motion in its original or amended form because the Government had a history of unfulfilled promises and that he would have preferred to see a list of measures that government would be making. He at the same time failed to recognise the initiatives already implemented.

Corbin and the PNCR’s insistence that the Value Added Tax is the reason for the price increases is not only flawed but it is presumptuous and intended to mislead persons. All over the world persons are suffering as a result of the food price increases. The fact that it is a global phenomenon is undisputable every international news cast is carrying stories of the effect they are having on both rich and poor countries around the world.

One would ask why this unpatriotic stance by the PNCR. Is it to leave a foothold to protest in the streets?

The other issue which the PNCR was seen to be displaying traits of unpatriotic behaviour had to do with the Bill that deals with visiting armed forces. As I understand it, this Bill will set the legal framework for Guyana to invite armed forces to assist and work with our army and police if needed.

What could be wrong about this? Several larger countries have similar arrangements This law will be enacted in other sister Caribbean countries to offer improved security to these small countries and lastly we already have an arrangement where military personnel from foreign countries visit Guyana for training purposes and to conduct training with our military.

This Bill will give legal standing to these arrangements. Yet the PNCR and Corbin refused to support this bill. Is it opposition for the sake of opposition? Guyana has two outstanding border matters. We do not have the resources to finance a military to combat these threats so this should be all the more reason why it should have been supported.

It is always suspected that the PNCR has an agenda to take Guyana over the edge in order to gain power.

Guyanese need to be vigilant on these matters and stop the PNCR before they do. Their actions need to be condemned not only by the Government but by every Guyanese especially their supporters.
JEAN RAMROOP
Guyana Chronicle

Any plan that will benefit the Guyanese people is obviously seen by the PNC as a regression in their quest to gain power. The PNC has no interest in the well being of the Guyanese people, including their own supporters.

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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
Any plan that will benefit the Guyanese people is obviously seen by the PNC as a regression in their quest to gain power. The PNC has no interest in the well being of the Guyanese people, including their own supporters.

True, but much of their supporters dont give a damn aboutn their own well-being, as long as they seems to have political power, that is all that matters.

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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
Any plan that will benefit the Guyanese people is obviously seen by the PNC as a regression in their quest to gain power. The PNC has no interest in the well being of the Guyanese people, including their own supporters.

The same can be said of the PPP?

I is quite amusing to see the ppp soupies excusing the economic pressure that vat is causing on the people. Tax is sure as death however pressuring the poorest segement of the population will not endear them to this government. I hope the dimwitted ppp will see fit to exclude all food items from vat except alcohol. I wonder if the rum till i die crew will appreciate that.

The majority of people in the army , police force, Teaching profession and the civil service are blacks.. These four departments are dependent on tax payers money to earn their living.. If the Government should reduce the VAT collection, it would indeed be a relief for the indian businesses, but would hinder the government's ability to pay the Civil servants, teachers and security forces their salaries.. There would be no raises in the future. blacks would suffer severely..

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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
Any plan that will benefit the Guyanese people is obviously seen by the PNC as a regression in their quest to gain power. The PNC has no interest in the well being of the Guyanese people, including their own supporters.

The above statement can hold true for the PPP as well.

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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
Any plan that will benefit the Guyanese people is obviously seen by the PNC as a regression in their quest to gain power. The PNC has no interest in the well being of the Guyanese people, including their own supporters.

Boy, I so wish for the PNC to disappear and so who you guys will find to blame for the incompetence and mediocrity of the PPP administration.

Please note that "Jean Ramroop" is one of many fictitious names used in the Chronicle. Chronicle "letter writers" are employed by GINA. Most "letter to the editor" in the Chronicle are edited by Janet Jagan and other PPP cohorts.

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Originally posted by Gupta:
Please note that "Jean Ramroop" is one of many fictitious names used in the Chronicle. Chronicle "letter writers" are employed by GINA. Most "letter to the editor" in the Chronicle are edited by Janet Jagan and other PPP cohorts.

"Gupta", is a fictitious name…it’s a woman wanting to act like a man.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The majority of people in the army , police force, Teaching profession and the civil service are blacks.. These four departments are dependent on tax payers money to earn their living.. If the Government should reduce the VAT collection, it would indeed be a relief for the indian businesses, but would hinder the government's ability to pay the Civil servants, teachers and security forces their salaries.. There would be no raises in the future. blacks would suffer severely..

Rama, this group of people are the biggest tax evaders in Guyana.

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Originally posted by baseman:

True, but much of their supporters dont give a damn aboutn their own well-being, as long as they seems to have political power, that is all that matters.

Having another racist moment I see. No wonder the rest of the Caribbean is now seeing upfront what AfroGuyanese must go through. We see that they are accused of wanting political power, even if it means their stravation, merely because they are doingwhat people every where else, including the Caribbean are doing, and that is complaining about how costs.


BTW there was a global map in the NYT showing import duties levied on food and non food imports. Guyana supposedly has high duties and indirect taxes on food items.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The majority of people in the army , police force, Teaching profession and the civil service are blacks.. These four departments are dependent on tax payers money to earn their living.. ..

And these are the main people who pay taxes in Guyana. Its notable that certian types who dont pay income tax in Guyana are quick to pretend that they subsidize taxpayers.

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The majority of people in the army , police force, Teaching profession and the civil service are blacks.. These four departments are dependent on tax payers money to earn their living.. ..

And these are the main people who pay taxes in Guyana. Its notable that certian types who dont pay income tax in Guyana are quick to pretend that they subsidize taxpayers.

bai, they get paid by the treasury and taxed by IRD who then pay the treasury, who then funds the IRD. So their taxes, maybe 15/20% of gross gets re-cycled and combined with 80/85% taxes from other sources and pays the next salary.

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Originally posted by baseman:
So their taxes, maybe 15/20% of gross gets re-cycled and combined with 80/85% taxes from other sources and pays the next salary.

Baseman business people and farmers dont pay taxes in Guyana. Only salaried people do. Most duty is levied on goods which enter Port Georgetwown. GT with the largest concentration of consumers pays a huge share of the VAT.

Its only sad bigots like you peddle BS about black laziness and savagery who believe that we dont carry out own weight.

Ask yourself how many farmers and small business people even file tax returns much less pay.

Baseman continue to do your best to make sure that GNI is seen as an anti black hate site.

What are we condemning the PNCR for? For being PPP scapegoats?

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by baseman:
So their taxes, maybe 15/20% of gross gets re-cycled and combined with 80/85% taxes from other sources and pays the next salary.

Baseman business people and farmers dont pay taxes in Guyana. Only salaried people do. Most duty is levied on goods which enter Port Georgetwown. GT with the largest concentration of consumers pays a huge share of the VAT.

Its only sad bigots like you peddle BS about black laziness and savagery who believe that we dont carry out own weight.

Ask yourself how many farmers and small business people even file tax returns much less pay.

Baseman continue to do your best to make sure that GNI is seen as an anti black hate site.

Caribj, if you understand the basics of macro economics you will understand how fool-hardy your comment is. Civil servants are funded by taxpayers money, the salaries and benefits of such workers are not tax recycled 100% back to the national treasury. I see how you PNC boys understand economics, no wonder you made such a "good" job while in power.

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by baseman:
So their taxes, maybe 15/20% of gross gets re-cycled and combined with 80/85% taxes from other sources and pays the next salary.

Baseman business people and farmers dont pay taxes in Guyana. Only salaried people do. Most duty is levied on goods which enter Port Georgetwown. GT with the largest concentration of consumers pays a huge share of the VAT.

Its only sad bigots like you peddle BS about black laziness and savagery who believe that we dont carry out own weight.

Ask yourself how many farmers and small business people even file tax returns much less pay.

Baseman continue to do your best to make sure that GNI is seen as an anti black hate site.

"Business people don't pay taxes" So who import the goods and who pays "pays the duty levied on goods" Last time I check GT has a population around 150,000 that should be about 25% of 700,000 total. Are you saying that 75% of folks does not comsume as much as GT folks, because of there appitite or they live under a tree, is this a new version of Carib logics?

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Originally posted by sachin_05:

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by baseman:
So their taxes, maybe 15/20% of gross gets re-cycled and combined with 80/85% taxes from other sources and pays the next salary.

Baseman business people and farmers dont pay taxes in Guyana. Only salaried people do. Most duty is levied on goods which enter Port Georgetwown. GT with the largest concentration of consumers pays a huge share of the VAT.

Its only sad bigots like you peddle BS about black laziness and savagery who believe that we dont carry out own weight.

Ask yourself how many farmers and small business people even file tax returns much less pay.

Baseman continue to do your best to make sure that GNI is seen as an anti black hate site.

"Business people don't pay taxes" So who import the goods and who pays "pays the duty levied on goods" Last time I check GT has a population around 150,000 that should be about 25% of 700,000 total. Are you saying that 75% of folks does not comsume as much as GT folks, because of there appitite or they live under a tree, is this a new version of Carib logics?

He logic gone foa channah...ops i mean black eye peas, sorry Carib, no offense intended.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sachin_05:

"Business people don't pay taxes" So who import the goods and who pays "pays the duty levied on goods" [QUOTE]

And I guess business people dont pass on to their consumers these duties and taxes meaning that these consumers ultimately pay.

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Originally posted by sachin_05:
Last time I check GT has a population around 150,000 that should be about 25% of 700,000 total. ?

Its 200,000. That is over 1/4. Urban people also have a higher propensity to consume that riural the world over and I am sure Guyana is no exception. So consumption is probably more than 1/3.

Bottom line is.

1. Most Georgetown residents are salaried workers so pay taxes whether they wish to or not thru direct payroll deductions. Most rural residents live on a cash basis, their incomes are harder to track, and they arent forced to pay on a PAYE basis. GT residents pay more than their share of income taxes.

2. They account for 1/4 of the population a nd so pay at least 1/4 of the taxes and duties. I would argue more.

3. The fcat that GT has far more businesses located within its borders, relative to its size than the rest of the nation shows how lucrative GT is for business people.

You all need to try not to show your racist colors pretending that every dollar spent in GT is charity.

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Originally posted by baseman:
Civil servants are funded by taxpayers money, the salaries and benefits of such workers are not tax recycled 100% back to the national treasury. I see how you PNC boys understand economics, no wonder you made such a "good" job while in power.

There are fewer than 20k civil servants inclusive of teachers poloice men and soldiers. Not all are based in GT. Surprising to you GT residents performa a large number of jobs. Consider the fact that the largest hotels are located in or near GT and Marriott is under construction there and not Rose Hall. That the bulk of the commercial banking activity is in GT as is much of the importing and wholesale distribution and manufacturing.

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Originally posted by caribj:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sachin_05:

"Business people don't pay taxes" So who import the goods and who pays "pays the duty levied on goods" [QUOTE]

And I guess business people dont pass on to their consumers these duties and taxes meaning that these consumers ultimately pay.

"business people dont pay taxes" actually means they are passing it on to the consumer..yeah right. if you think that Carib logic would fly here you are having serious brain fart. Unless you are using Carig ligics 1/3 people cannot be "largest concentration of consumers" because they live in the capital town.

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Originally posted by sachin_05:
"business people dont pay taxes" actually means they are passing it on to the consumer..yeah right. if you think that Carib logic would fly here you are having serious brain fart. Unless you are using Carig ligics 1/3 people cannot be "largest concentration of consumers" because they live in the capital town.

So confused are you in your haste to portray Georgetown residents (many of whom are Indians by the way) as a bunch of slackers who contribute nothing to Guyana.