The Private Sector Commission yesterday called for the immediate confirmation of Henry Greene, by the government, to the position of Commissioner of Police.
Greene has been acting in the position for more than two years now after his predecessor Winston Felix demitted office.
President Bharrat Jagdeo

President Bharrat Jagdeo

President Bharrat Jagdeo recently confirmed that Greene was his choice to be appointed to the substantive post.
He noted that what was stalling the process was the Leader of the main Opposition Party, Robert Corbin, who he said was “nitpicking and playing petty politics” as it relates to the appointment of Greene.
According to Jagdeo, in his previous meeting with Corbin which was an exploratory meeting on the issue, the PNCR Leader did not object to the appointment of Greene as Commissioner of Police.
“He is saying (that) now that we have written him the consultation needs to happen…It’s all nitpicking. I am very disappointed.”
PNCR Leader Robert Corbin

PNCR Leader Robert Corbin

The PNCR later lashed out at Jagdeo saying that he was flouting the constitution by not going through due process as it relates to the appointment of a commissioner which states that there must be meaningful consultation.
Greene was appointed Acting Commissioner of Police in July 2006 and according to Article 211 of the constitution, “the Commissioner of Police and every Deputy Commissioner of Police shall be appointed by the President, acting after meaningful consultation with the Leader of the Opposition and Chairperson of the Police Service Commission, after the Chairperson has consulted with the other members of the commission.”
According to the PNCR, there was no record of such meetings, either with the party or the Police Service Commission.
Acting Commissioner of Police, Henry Greene

Acting Commissioner of Police, Henry Greene

Meanwhile, the call by the Private Sector Commission (PSC) was made through a release to the media yesterday, where it sought to congratulate the security forces for bringing to an end the criminal career of Rondell ‘Fine Man’ Rawlins and a member of his gang, Jermaine ‘Skinny’ Charles.
The statement noted that the Commission, while recognizing that a well organized and extremely dangerous criminal enterprise has been seriously weakened by the removal of Rawlins as its leader, believes that it is critical that the security forces remain resolute in their pursuit of the remaining members of this gang and all other heavily armed and organized criminal enterprises which continue to pose a threat to the nation’s stability. “The Commission wishes to emphasise that approximately half of the weapons stolen from the Guyana Defence Force remain un-recovered and are a matter for considerable concern.”
The PSC also added its voice to a reverberating theme echoed by many that it continues to be a source of major concern that the majority of the Rawlins gang were recruited from very young members of our community, “seemingly readymade to be murderers and bereft of any form of human decency.”

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PSC calls for appointment of Greene to substantive position

Corbin's position on the confirmation of Greene as Police Commissioner is not surprising. Corbin would prefer a Commissioner that relates directly to Kongress Place, more like a Felix type.

And to make matters worse, Greene's successes are seen as counter-productive to the PNC's agenda.

Anil boi,you know your friend only playing politics. Just like how he is waiting for Freddie retirement age,he is waiting on Green's. You know he will not appoint that man.

Well,if he takes set up and appoint him he is much more dunce that I thought. Why was Green's visa revoked? Can you tell us?Remember I know why Rohee's was revoked,and if you want to know,let him write that public statement that he is not going to sue me and I will tell the world.

"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

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"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

You would want the Guyanese people to believe you are pushing for the appt of a man whose visa was revoked, which speculation is for drug related reasons.

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Originally posted by SJ4321:
"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

Unfortunately, the Opposition Leader has interpreted the words "Meaningful consultation", as another opportunity to "***** foot" with the commissioner's appointment in an effort to signal his non-approval of the Commissioner's successes in the fight against this criminal insurgency.

The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

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The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

You guys will have him acting that long. Wow,I hope he gets an Oscar.

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Originally posted by SJ4321:
"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

Unfortunately, the Opposition Leader has interpreted the words "Meaningful consultation", as another opportunity to "***** foot" with the commissioner's appointment in an effort to signal his non-approval of the Commissioner's successes in the fight against this criminal insurgency.

The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

It is about time the actor gets his reward,he was biting at the bit for sometime.Let us pray that the facts surrounding his visa revocation are not made public.Or his cellphone number does not show up in the transcripts for the upcoming federal criminal trial in the Southern District.

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:
"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

Unfortunately, the Opposition Leader has interpreted the words "Meaningful consultation", as another opportunity to "***** foot" with the commissioner's appointment in an effort to signal his non-approval of the Commissioner's successes in the fight against this criminal insurgency.

The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

It is about time the actor gets his reward,he was biting at the bit for sometime.Let us pray that the facts surrounding his visa revocation are not made public.Or his cellphone number does not show up in the transcripts for the upcoming federal criminal trial in the Southern District.

Im sure that if that was to be the case, he'd have an explanation for it.
As even Corbin has an explanation for his stance on Greene's appointment, im sure.

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SJ4321:
"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

Unfortunately, the Opposition Leader has interpreted the words "Meaningful consultation", as another opportunity to "***** foot" with the commissioner's appointment in an effort to signal his non-approval of the Commissioner's successes in the fight against this criminal insurgency.

The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

It is about time the actor gets his reward,he was biting at the bit for sometime.Let us pray that the facts surrounding his visa revocation are not made public.Or his cellphone number does not show up in the transcripts for the upcoming federal criminal trial in the Southern District.

Im sure that if that was to be the case, he'd have an explanation for it.
As even Corbin has an explanation for his stance on Greene's appointment, im sure.[/QUOTE

SJ,Corbin is equally as ethically challenged as is Green.

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It is about time the actor gets his reward,he was biting at the bit for sometime.Let us pray that the facts surrounding his visa revocation are not made public.Or his cellphone number does not show up in the transcripts for the upcoming federal criminal trial in the Southern District.

His number will show up. Why you think Jagdeo mot appointing him,he claiming it is the opposition. He is buying time to see how october go down in NYC.

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Originally posted by SJ4321:

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SJ4321:
"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

Unfortunately, the Opposition Leader has interpreted the words "Meaningful consultation", as another opportunity to "***** foot" with the commissioner's appointment in an effort to signal his non-approval of the Commissioner's successes in the fight against this criminal insurgency.

The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

It is about time the actor gets his reward,he was biting at the bit for sometime.Let us pray that the facts surrounding his visa revocation are not made public.Or his cellphone number does not show up in the transcripts for the upcoming federal criminal trial in the Southern District.

Im sure that if that was to be the case, he'd have an explanation for it.
As even Corbin has an explanation for his stance on Greene's appointment, im sure.[/QUOTE

SJ,Corbin is equally as ethically challenged as is Green.

I must admit Ireton, that i know nothing about the events that led to Mr Greene's visa revocation. As such i cannot tell if it is related to his work or of a personal nature.
But judging him from his efforts at combating crime in Guyana, i'd say he's doing quite okay.

And to think that he did not ask to be held accountable!

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i'd say he's doing quite okay.

As crime chief he did ok also,he turned over the names of many young men amd there where abouts to Mr Khan for their execution.

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SJ4321:
"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

Unfortunately, the Opposition Leader has interpreted the words "Meaningful consultation", as another opportunity to "***** foot" with the commissioner's appointment in an effort to signal his non-approval of the Commissioner's successes in the fight against this criminal insurgency.

The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

It is about time the actor gets his reward,he was biting at the bit for sometime.Let us pray that the facts surrounding his visa revocation are not made public.Or his cellphone number does not show up in the transcripts for the upcoming federal criminal trial in the Southern District.

Im sure that if that was to be the case, he'd have an explanation for it.
As even Corbin has an explanation for his stance on Greene's appointment, im sure.[/QUOTE

SJ,Corbin is equally as ethically challenged as is Green.

I must admit Ireton, that i know nothing about the events that led to Mr Greene's visa revocation. As such i cannot tell if it is related to his work or of a personal nature.
But judging him from his efforts at combating crime in Guyana, i'd say he's doing quite okay.

And to think that he did not ask to be held accountable!

Well according to press reports attributed to the US Embassy,both his diplomatic and non-immigrant visas were revoked because it was alleged that he benefitted from the drug trade.
My issue however,his continued failure to reform and revamp the entire police force.That is an organization totally in bed with the drug cartel.Until those reforms are in place, I will continue to subject him and his high command to rigid scrutiny.

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Originally posted by SJ4321:

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SJ4321:
"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

Unfortunately, the Opposition Leader has interpreted the words "Meaningful consultation", as another opportunity to "***** foot" with the commissioner's appointment in an effort to signal his non-approval of the Commissioner's successes in the fight against this criminal insurgency.

The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

It is about time the actor gets his reward,he was biting at the bit for sometime.Let us pray that the facts surrounding his visa revocation are not made public.Or his cellphone number does not show up in the transcripts for the upcoming federal criminal trial in the Southern District.

Im sure that if that was to be the case, he'd have an explanation for it.
As even Corbin has an explanation for his stance on Greene's appointment, im sure.[/QUOTE

SJ,Corbin is equally as ethically challenged as is Green.

I must admit Ireton, that i know nothing about the events that led to Mr Greene's visa revocation. As such i cannot tell if it is related to his work or of a personal nature.
But judging him from his efforts at combating crime in Guyana, i'd say he's doing quite okay.

And to think that he did not ask to be held accountable!

Well according to press reports attributed to the US Embassy,both his diplomatic and non-immigrant visas were revoked because it was alleged that he benefitted from the drug trade.
My issue however,his continued failure to reform and revamp the entire police force.That is an organization totally in bed with the drug cartel.Until those reforms are in place, I will continue to subject him and his high command to rigid scrutiny.

Revamping of the police force is quite an Herculean task. Especially if it's intended to free it from corruption. The Police Force is severely limited in terms of its human resources, recruitment efforts have not provided much success. And there is no gurantee that increased salaries will either, as they have already been significant increases of late.

The image of the police force is as such, that it is unable to appeal to the younger folks.
And in particular, it received a terrible bashing from the PNC, which certainly did not help.

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Dreaming Attorney General...

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The PNCR later lashed out at Jagdeo saying that he was flouting the constitution by not going through due process as it relates to the appointment of a commissioner which states that there must be meaningful consultation.

WHAT IS DUE PROCESS?

Greene was appointed Acting Commissioner of Police in July 2006 and according to Article 211 of the constitution, (and here is where due process kicks in)

1. “the Commissioner of Police and every Deputy Commissioner of Police shall be appointed by the President,

2. acting after meaningful consultation with the Leader of the Opposition and

3. Chairperson of the Police Service Commission,

4. after the Chairperson has consulted with the other members of the commission.”

Those four steps entail due process in this particular matter. But guess what?

According to the PNCR, there was no record of such meetings, either with the party or the Police Service Commission.

If the PNCR is wrong on this count, then it is to be called out on it. If not, then the problem lies with the PPP government.

Look, the US government is a senior partner with the Jagdeo government in development projects for Guyana, and apart from many senior government officials having visas to the US, the US is home to hundreds of thousands of Guyanese.

So when the US publicly revokes visas of government officials, as it did to Ronald Gajraj and Floyd McDonald - who worked together as Home Affairs Minister and acting top cop respectively during the Phantom Squad era - and also to Clement Rohee and Henry Green - who now work together as Home Affairs Minister and acting top cop respectively during the fall out from drug smuggling activities - there is something to be said about such revocations.

If Corbin goes ahead and supports Green for top cop position, Corbin risks coming out against the US government, whose help he may need if this PPP government collapses under its own weight of corruption and ineptitude. Or if Roger Khan sings the blues and names names in his New York trial to cop a lenient sentence.

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The PNCR later lashed out at Jagdeo saying that he was flouting the constitution by not going through due process as it relates to the appointment of a commissioner which states that there must be meaningful consultation.

WHAT IS DUE PROCESS?

Greene was appointed Acting Commissioner of Police in July 2006 and according to Article 211 of the constitution, (and here is where due process kicks in)

1. “the Commissioner of Police and every Deputy Commissioner of Police shall be appointed by the President,

2. acting after meaningful consultation with the Leader of the Opposition and

3. Chairperson of the Police Service Commission,

4. after the Chairperson has consulted with the other members of the commission.”

Those four steps entail due process in this particular matter. But guess what?

According to the PNCR, there was no record of such meetings, either with the party or the Police Service Commission.

If the PNCR is wrong on this count, then it is to be called out on it. If not, then the problem lies with the PPP government.

Look, the US government is a senior partner with the Jagdeo government in development projects for Guyana, and apart from many senior government officials having visas to the US, the US is home to hundreds of thousands of Guyanese.

So when the US publicly revokes visas of government officials, as it did to Ronald Gajraj and Floyd McDonald - who worked together as Home Affairs Minister and acting top cop respectively during the Phantom Squad era - and also to Clement Rohee and Henry Green - who now work together as Home Affairs Minister and acting top cop respectively during the fall out from drug smuggling activities - there is something to be said about such revocations.

If Corbin goes ahead and supports Green for top cop position, Corbin risks coming out against the US government, whose help he may need if this PPP government collapses under its own weight of corruption and ineptitude. Or if Roger Khan sings the blues and names names in his New York trial to cop a lenient sentence.

What about if some of the remnants of the Fineman gang decides to sing Skew-municator?
Corbin and others wouldn't be around to worry about what Roger Khan says or not, i.e, if there is anything for him to say

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What about if some of the remnants of the Fineman gang decides to sing Skew-municator?

Show the evidence dunce bamsee attorney at law. You and jagdeo keep haring about evidence and video and can't show anything.

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:

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Originally posted by SJ4321:
"Meaningful consultation"............i wonder what was meant by that term?

When are consultations "meaningful"?
Is it if both parties are satisfied?

Unfortunately, the Opposition Leader has interpreted the words "Meaningful consultation", as another opportunity to "***** foot" with the commissioner's appointment in an effort to signal his non-approval of the Commissioner's successes in the fight against this criminal insurgency.

The good thing though, is that unlike some others, the Acting Commissioner has many years of service in the Police Force ahead of him.

It is about time the actor gets his reward,he was biting at the bit for sometime.Let us pray that the facts surrounding his visa revocation are not made public.Or his cellphone number does not show up in the transcripts for the upcoming federal criminal trial in the Southern District.

Ireton,

I believe that Greene should be made CoP. I fthe PNC is stalling it is wrong. If the GOG has a problem, they should let the public know.

His visa denial by the US should play no part in his appointment.

Despite all my criticism of the President, he should make a decision on this matter without consulting anyone. Greene seems to be doing a fine job.