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The last words of Joseph O’Lall
I sat for four hours in Joseph O’Lall’s Prashad Nagar home interviewing him. Part of our exchange I did for one of these columns.

A huge section of that conversation Mr. O’Lall restricted from being published. He cited two reasons. He didn’t want to aggravate the tensions with the President because he intended to return to Government service and didn’t want to give the President an excuse for permanently banishing him from the public sector.

Secondly, he indicated to me that he wanted me to keep his toxic condemnation of the ruling PPP confidential because the party had promised him that it would help to exonerate him in his unfair (that was the word he used) dismissal by President Jagdeo.

He also pointed out that any break with the PPP would have to occur after the organisation’s Congress later this year, the reason being that he wanted to table a motion for the party to name its 2011 presidential candidate at that event.


Joseph O’Lall died and was buried last week. It was indeed a sad occasion against the background of his sudden employment termination. I am old enough and experienced enough to see angst, permanent pessimism and Shakespearian tragedy in the eyes of someone who speaks to me about their problems.


And I saw those throes in the eyes and on the visage of Joseph O’Lall. He struck me as a man who was no longer interested in life. In psychology there is the concept of “psychosomatic effect” meaning the unhappiness in the mind affects the body. Is it possible his death could be seen in that context?


Mr. O'Lall is dead. His family consists of one son, a step-daughter and a reputed wife. I believe Mr. O’Lall would have wanted me to publish the information he asked me to hold back on. Here are snippets of the entire interview.

First, Mr. O’Lall desired the PPP to remove Mr. Jagdeo as President.


It was the first time in the interview that I felt he was becoming too emotional and too irrational. His eyes were wild, gesticulations canine, body language intemperate. He raised his voice so loudly that two young persons who were in the house upstairs ran down the steps to see if I was murdering him.

He looked at me with the visage of a mad man and said:

“Jagdeo has to be stopped because he is going to destroy this country; he has already destroyed the PPP.”


I was cynical. Even though I was sympathetic to him because he proved with documentary evidence that he was fired without just cause, I was not impressed with his exclamations.


I fired back. I asked how come he arrived at that judgement only after a negative entanglement with the President.

He responded: “I was working for my party; Comrade Cheddi put me in charge of energy.”


I went further: “So why didn’t you utilize your crucial role in the Georgetown arm of the party to pressure the PPP into regulating Mr. Jagdeo’s behaviour and policies.” It was that question that got Mr. O’Lall more worked up. Then he opened up to me.


Joseph O’Lall asserted that he didn’t think the PPP would be successful in securing his job back or any other form of public sector employment. You could have heard/seen the anger and chagrin in his voice and eyes as he spoke of being let down by the PPP. He gave the number of years he spent with the PPP and to be humiliated the way he was by President Jagdeo was heart-breaking.


I pursued him on the subject of the political bankruptcy of the PPP that dates back to the sixties and why someone like him that saw the mountain of evidence of backwardness remained inside. He would have none of it. He loved Cheddi Jagan and the PPP. Then he revealed why he was and will always be a PPP.


He said: “Freddie, I am a communist.”


He concluded that the PPP is a spent force, devastated by the Machiavellian politics of Mr. Jagdeo.

For him, the game was over. He hinted that he was leaving for Trinidad to take up an appointment. There were more questions from me. He offered more fascinating answers. I probed him as to why he thinks the PPP is a spent force. His answer needs careful contemplation by the Guyanese people for its implications are frightening when you think of them.


Joseph O’Lall believed that there is no one holding the PPP together
and that the vision and energy of those that Jagan left behind have run out.
He said that these post-Jagan leaders have virtually given up and lacked the will to reshape the PPP.
According to him, Jagan’s protégés have given the PPP to Mr. Jagdeo.



I enquired about Mrs. Jagan’s role. He was livid.
He was completely finished with Mrs. Jagan.

This is how he put it:
“You know Freddie, I went to that woman after the President dismissed me.
You know what she told me, Freddie?
It was a government matter and not a party decision.”


I then asked what happens when Jagdeo goes.
He thinks once there is a credible opposition with a good Indian name, the PPP will lose in 2011........
[Moses, Ralph & others will lead the way....... wishes.......

Now Jagdeo & The PPP is History.....
A SPENT FORCE ........
A TOTAL WASTE UNDER JAGDEO's LEADERSHIP]
wishes

As I was leaving, he put his hand on my shoulder, smiled for once and said, “Be careful, Freddie.”

I don’t know what he meant. I will never know; he’s dead.

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Some people can't see pass their noses. Isn't that right' Mr. CaneCuttaBabu??

The PPP can't remove Jagdeo from the Presidency. They have no lagal authority to do so.. Who is Mr. lall to tell the PPP what to do.

The PPP under any other name is still the PPP. Isn't right, mr. CaneCuttaBabu?

You get fired from the Government and then you say that the president is destroying the country and his party. many already went that way and perished. Isn't that right Mr. caneCuttaBabu?

I suspected that you are one of them. The thing i syopu came on this GNI pretending to be stupid. You didn't fool anybody and certainly you didn't fool me. Remember, You cannot con a con man.. Big Grin
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Little this Indo Commie with an Irish name know that Machiavellian tactics were used by Cheddi and Janet in the running and operations of the PPP . These are the idiots who remained silent about the misdoings of the PPP and when they get fired they looking to grind axe . BJ simply applied the same tactics practiced within the party hierarchy to govt . I am tired of these moochers which are now victims of the PPP tactics using Father Freddie for confession . Friken joke ! Ramjattan het his arse kicked , Moses got his dose and now O'Lall is suddenly shocked at the party's behavior . Was he really expecting janet jagan to intervene ...he was just another expendable coolie bai.
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Some people can't see pass their noses. Isn't that right' Mr. CaneCuttaBabu??

The PPP can't remove Jagdeo from the Presidency. They have no lagal authority to do so.. Who is Mr. lall to tell the PPP what to do.

The PPP under any other name is still the PPP. Isn't right, mr. CaneCuttaBabu?

You get fired from the Government and then you say that the president is destroying the country and his party. many already went that way and perished. Isn't that right Mr. caneCuttaBabu?

I suspected that you are one of them. The thing i syopu came on this GNI pretending to be stupid. You didn't fool anybody and certainly you didn't fool me. Remember, You cannot con a con man.. Big Grin


If my good friend Rama is correct then the PPP is in the hands of a Bunch of Coo-noo-moo-nooo who cant remove Jagdeo.

Coo-noo-moo-noo PPP Cant remove Jagdeo .........
but the PNC Cut Janet Jagan term and Removed her too.

Rama ...... "show me your Company and I'll tell you who you are" ......... I aint A PNC and Surely I aint no Coo-noo-moo-noooooo.
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Little this Indo Commie with an Irish name know that Machiavellian tactics were used by Cheddi and Janet in the running and operations of the PPP . These are the idiots who remained silent about the misdoings of the PPP and when they get fired they looking to grind axe . BJ simply applied the same tactics practiced within the party hierarchy to govt . I am tired of these moochers which are now victims of the PPP tactics using Father Freddie for confession . Friken joke ! Ramjattan het his arse kicked , Moses got his dose and now O'Lall is suddenly shocked at the party's behavior . Was he really expecting janet jagan to intervene ... he was just another expendable coolie bai .


You have said it as it is Kidmost.
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And yet when an Indian named Freddie Kissoon writes stuff criticizing and exposing the PPP for what it is, F-CUP, certain apologists holler that Freddie crazy an dhates his own people. These apologists can't see that not all criticisms of the PPP equate to criticisms of Indians.
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I think it was Freddie that gave the man the heart attack with his interview.
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Originally posted by Communicator:
And yet when an Indian named Freddie Kissoon writes stuff criticizing and exposing the PPP for what it is, F-CUP, certain apologists holler that Freddie crazy an dhates his own people. These apologists can't see that not all criticisms of the PPP equate to criticisms of Indians.


I commented that Freddie is to Guyana what Al Sharpton is to NY . However , there are many occassions when Freddie writes simply to trash the govt and the PPP however , if the PPP was holding to high standards there would be no wuk fuh Freddie .
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Freddie does write crap plenty time. But in the middle of the crap he does make sense.
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Freddie is a drama queen.
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Freddie is in a popularity contest with CN Sharma. One is educated and the other is a clown with plenty of candies for the silly kids. Great entertainment for the public who laughs at their commentaries but rarely takes them seriously.
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Not so true.......Billy Boy..........these Dudes do have a "following" here in GY
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Canecutta, why did Jagdeo fire you from Enmore Estate? Sri Chan's brother Balwan got all of your files, sorry, I mean folders. Begin by telling us about how PPP sent you to Russia and don’t forget to end your sad story by telling us how you end up fighting for Minista wok
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Not so true.......Billy Boy..........these Dudes do have a "following" here in GY


"...here in GY"???? Nacckle...pot salt ...stop the charade. You are not a young female living in Guyana. Anyone can see from your writings that you are a bitter old hard-back joker from Richmond Hill.

Fess up yo...
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Freddie is in a popularity contest with CN Sharma. One is educated and the other is a clown with plenty of candies for the silly kids. Great entertainment for the public who laughs at their commentaries but rarely takes them seriously.


Billy B...Sharma may be intellectually challenged but he connects with the poor souls of Guyana. He has a value and that is recognised. You choose to ignore than at your own deficit in understanding Guyana.

Freddy may be caustic have a frenzied antipathy for the current crop of PPP leadership, but you ignore reality by dismissing all he writes as silly commentary.

You do not have to agree with either of those two, but the fact that you comment on them says a lot about them - you are unable to ignore them, or is that that you want to kill the messenger when the message is unpalatable?
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Some people can't see pass their noses. Isn't that right' Mr. CaneCuttaBabu??

The PPP can't remove Jagdeo from the Presidency. They have no lagal authority to do so.. Who is Mr. lall to tell the PPP what to do.

The PPP under any other name is still the PPP. Isn't right, mr. CaneCuttaBabu?

You get fired from the Government and then you say that the president is destroying the country and his party. many already went that way and perished. Isn't that right Mr. caneCuttaBabu?

I suspected that you are one of them. The thing i syopu came on this GNI pretending to be stupid. You didn't fool anybody and certainly you didn't fool me. Remember, You cannot con a con man.. Big Grin


If my good friend Rama is correct then the PPP is in the hands of a Bunch of Coo-noo-moo-nooo who cant remove Jagdeo.

Coo-noo-moo-noo PPP Cant remove Jagdeo .........
but the PNC Cut Janet Jagan term and Removed her too.

Rama ...... "show me your Company and I'll tell you who you are" ......... I aint A PNC and Surely I aint no Coo-noo-moo-noooooo.


The people who run Guyana are my friends.. Big Grin
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Canecutta, why did Jagdeo fire you from Enmore Estate? [B]********************Them Bhai in Enmore see me and Varshnie

Sri Chan's brother Balwan got all of your files, sorry, I mean folders.
************ Because he ah mi Friend,when me go by he, he wife treat me real nice, she cook nuff and we sport lil, he drink wan large and pass out..... and we cool, we ah buddy-friend

Begin by telling us about how PPP sent you to Russia ************** Bhai mi prapa enjoy the common-ness in Russia,
but meh mus explain them got 2 type common-ness.....
one with Bhai and Gal ........and tha a the only kind mi like and practice
then them ga wan nex kind with Bhai and Bhai.....U, Manny and Jagdeo like that kind



and don’t forget to end your sad story by telling us how you end up fighting for Minista wok[/b]
******** No way Hosay, Not with Jagdeo,
Manny admitt that Ba**y carry him far...... and he tell me you well and greese up and in line for wan post.......
to each his own Davie...... y'll enjoy the polls and holes



Davie manny say them gat u in wan position as Regional Minister for Sexty-Nine.
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Originally posted by CaneCutta:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Some people can't see pass their noses. Isn't that right' Mr. CaneCuttaBabu??

The PPP can't remove Jagdeo from the Presidency. They have no lagal authority to do so.. Who is Mr. lall to tell the PPP what to do.

The PPP under any other name is still the PPP. Isn't right, mr. CaneCuttaBabu?

You get fired from the Government and then you say that the president is destroying the country and his party. many already went that way and perished. Isn't that right Mr. caneCuttaBabu?

I suspected that you are one of them. The thing i syopu came on this GNI pretending to be stupid. You didn't fool anybody and certainly you didn't fool me. Remember, You cannot con a con man.. Big Grin


If my good friend Rama is correct then the PPP is in the hands of a Bunch of Coo-noo-moo-nooo who cant remove Jagdeo.

Coo-noo-moo-noo PPP Cant remove Jagdeo .........
but the PNC Cut Janet Jagan term and Removed her too.

Rama ...... "show me your Company and I'll tell you who you are" ......... I aint A PNC and Surely I aint no Coo-noo-moo-noooooo.


The people who run Guyana are my friends.. Big Grin


I dont keep friend like Roger and Jagdeo.... NO DRUG LORD CONNECTION....and Rama you might be good staying far from them too

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Originally posted by CaneCutta:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Some people can't see pass their noses. Isn't that right' Mr. CaneCuttaBabu??

The PPP can't remove Jagdeo from the Presidency. They have no lagal authority to do so.. Who is Mr. lall to tell the PPP what to do.

The PPP under any other name is still the PPP. Isn't right, mr. CaneCuttaBabu?

You get fired from the Government and then you say that the president is destroying the country and his party. many already went that way and perished. Isn't that right Mr. caneCuttaBabu?

I suspected that you are one of them. The thing i syopu came on this GNI pretending to be stupid. You didn't fool anybody and certainly you didn't fool me. Remember, You cannot con a con man.. Big Grin


If my good friend Rama is correct then the PPP is in the hands of a Bunch of Coo-noo-moo-nooo who cant remove Jagdeo.

Coo-noo-moo-noo PPP Cant remove Jagdeo .........
but the PNC Cut Janet Jagan term and Removed her too.

Rama ...... "show me your Company and I'll tell you who you are" ......... I aint A PNC and Surely I aint no Coo-noo-moo-noooooo.


The people who run Guyana are my friends.. Big Grin



Look like Coo-noo-moo-noo Choking!!!!!
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Communicator, someone would have to hold his hand and tell him what to do. The man is stupid beyond your wildest imagination!

I think his head has been too far up Jagdeo's behind for too long and as a result he suffered massive brain damage!


Lion,

That usually happens to people who spend too much time kissing A55! They tend to give new meaning to the term "TONGUE IN CHEEK!"

And with Jagdeo's excellent anal retention skills, that's a significant amount of muscle pressure against tender brain tissue. Hello, Discovery Health Channel, I've got a discovery for you: in Canada!

There's also no way Rama could easily pull his head out without rupturing a brain vessel or at least having some do-do on his head and face. It's also possible that while his head was up that Number One Canal Polder he might have opened his mouth to yawn or burp and some fecal mater slipped in, so when he pulled out his head and spoke for the first time in a long time, the obvious fell out.
Bhai look... Coo-noo-moo-noo Choking!!!!! Nuff $hit stick in his throat........ No wanda we cant hear from him since...... I wish him well
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by CaneCutta:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Some people can't see pass their noses. Isn't that right' Mr. CaneCuttaBabu??

The PPP can't remove Jagdeo from the Presidency. They have no lagal authority to do so.. Who is Mr. lall to tell the PPP what to do.

The PPP under any other name is still the PPP. Isn't right, mr. CaneCuttaBabu?

You get fired from the Government and then you say that the president is destroying the country and his party. many already went that way and perished. Isn't that right Mr. caneCuttaBabu?

I suspected that you are one of them. The thing i syopu came on this GNI pretending to be stupid. You didn't fool anybody and certainly you didn't fool me. Remember, You cannot con a con man.. Big Grin


If my good friend Rama is correct then the PPP is in the hands of a Bunch of Coo-noo-moo-nooo who cant remove Jagdeo.

Coo-noo-moo-noo PPP Cant remove Jagdeo .........
but the PNC Cut Janet Jagan term and Removed her too.

Rama ...... "show me your Company and I'll tell you who you are" ......... I aint A PNC and Surely I aint no Coo-noo-moo-noooooo.


The people who run Guyana are my friends.. Big Grin


I dont keep friend like Roger and Jagdeo.... NO DRUG LORD CONNECTION....and Rama you might be good staying far from them too


from the recent ramakant posts one can summize he now has a hold meh loose meh relationship with BJ and the PPP.
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