I partially agree. Under BJ, it's still not free from criminal and drugs, and slaughtering of our people that "he" allowed to get out of hand. Sorry, but that is the truth. he is powerless because he is not governing with of the power he holds. He is a coward captain who jump first and leave his crew to perish, when it is the other way around.

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Originally posted by caribj:

So neither he nor Jagdeo should get credit for floating bridges then. I mean all they did was build them.

Keeping focused on contemporary issues/situation:

Do you feel that credit should be given to the current Administration for the Berbice River Bridge?

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by caribj:

So neither he nor Jagdeo should get credit for floating bridges then. I mean all they did was build them.

Keeping focused on contemporary issues/situation:

Do you feel that credit should be given to the current Administration for the Berbice River Bridge?

The same credit that was accorded to Burnham should be accorded to Jagdeo.

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by caribj:

So neither he nor Jagdeo should get credit for floating bridges then. I mean all they did was build them.

CaribJ:

1. Get credit for work initiated and/or built during one's term of office; and

2. Conceive an idea;

are two separate and distinct issues.

So Jagdeo, and not Burnham, should get credit for building the bridge even though neither didnt conceive the idea in Guyana.

Your twisted logic is amazing.

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Originally posted by Prince Juno:
Bhai, allyou bad. You have one Afro to battle a bunch of indoist is not right. .

Its perfectly OK. They show their Indoism daily. I love playing with them and noting that the socalled liberal Indians who pretend that they are open minded never say anything to these characters yet have lots of time for me.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Bhai, This story now start. De man cannot understand ABC, how De hell he gun understand what you are trying to teach him.

What do you understand other than your Animal farm like devotion to your Comrade Leader Jagdeo?

Do you even know what Animal Farm is. Hint. Its not in Berbice. If and when you figure out what it is you wil find characters who resemble you greatly.

The Demerara Bridge was certainly a good investment the gov't made. I am sure residents in West Coast benefitted greatly from it. The Berbice River Bridge will bring forth the same benefits if not better.

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by caribj:

So neither he nor Jagdeo should get credit for floating bridges then. I mean all they did was build them.

Keeping focused on contemporary issues/situation:

Do you feel that credit should be given to the current Administration for the Berbice River Bridge?

The same credit that was accorded to Burnham should be accorded to Jagdeo.

CaribJ:

See -- again and again you twist the issue under discussion.

I will make this quite blunt and direct -- I care less for what others might have said -- good, bad or indifferent about Burnham and the Demerara River Bridge. That is not my current concern.

I care not for tit for tat and yadda yadda yadda.

This issue is the Berbice River Bridge.

Again -- repeat:

The question is:

Do you feel that credit should be given to the current Administration for the Berbice River Bridge?

Please note the specificity and relevance of the question regarding the Berbice River Bridge.

Now, if you want to discuss the merits of Burnham -- please start a separate and specific thread and I would be pleased to participate in the discussions/debate provide the dialogues remain on track and topic.

Yeah! What happened to our "animal farm" thread?
We should restart it.

O'Lall would fit the character Boxer.
The faithful horse of the revolution.

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Its perfectly OK. They show their Indoism daily. I love playing with them and noting that the socalled liberal Indians who pretend that they are open minded never say anything to these characters yet have lots of time for me.

Sometimes you have to treat the liberal indos like a neutralist, who do not defend nor offends. Let the chip falls where they may, and laugh when the blows comes around.

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Originally posted by caribj:


The question is whether Guyana is the strongest will survive? Or will they cry when the Islanders find cheaper source sof sugar and demand CET waivers to take care of he needs of their voters? The Europeans have already said thay arent buying it in the not too distant future, at least not at preferential prices.

And right now Guyana is barely profitable at world price based on estimated cost of production at the new facility. And of course this assume sthat thoudands are laid off. What a bam bam whne all the unemployed cane cutters burn streets and bridges to protest.

Your perpetual negativity is infectious as many others who want to see Guyana fail seem to be following you cue.
If other countries can produce sugar at a lower cost so can Guyana. The market will determine who will survive in the sugar industry. If Guyanese don't have the will to make sugar profitable then entropy will ensue. Let us give them a chance to fail or succeed instead of constantly feeling the urge to put the country down at every opportunity.

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Originally posted by Prince Juno:

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Here's my sentiment, you constumate complainers never have any good to say about Guyana. You always looking for the negative slant as though you get an orgasm every time you feel justified to make this claim.

If you would take constructive criticism to this length, how do see your current Govt., administration to be so powerless, negative, and cast shame upon the country and people by corruption that leads to massacres upon your people. Just forget about the bridge for now.

Don't fool yourself into believing that your constant bagering of Guyanese achievement is tantamount to constructive criticizm. Let someone else determine that as self praise is no complement.

Again you rely on assumptions and conjecture in your opinions. The PPP are not my government, they are the government of Guyana, so lets refrain from the well known detraction method of personalizing arguments in order to frustrate debate.

First of all there is no evidence that the actions of the government led to the massacres of Guyanese people in Bartica and Lusignan. Fineman claimed that the Lusignan massacre was in retribution for his girlfriend whom he erroneously believed was kidnapped by police only to realize that she left him intentionally. The Bartica massacre was a robbery. You people are a sorry lot that would stoop to such lows to support your warped thinking.

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Originally posted by Prince Juno:

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Originally posted by DaFreak:

Why those people have life jackets on, they expect to get thrown over board?

only a jackasss tinks like you

Berbice bridge a reality in September-BCCI
…tolls to be on par with current ferry charges

By Leonard Gildarie
Last Updated : 16 May, 2008 12:12 PM

The much-touted and long-awaited Berbice River Bridge is on schedule and should be open to traffic early September, according to officials of the Berbice Bridge Company Inc. (BBCI).

Speaking to media during a tour of the ongoing works, yesterday, it was also disclosed that users of the bridge would not have to worry too much since the toll will be on par with what is being charged by the current ferries system.

According to Geeta Singh-Knight, Chairperson of the BCCI, the ferries are charging just below $700 one-way for a sedan size car and from initial figures, this same car using the bridge will be charged around $1400 which will allow for a return trip.


Pic: Works are still underway on the high span of Berbice Bridge
which will allow barges and tugs to continue passing without the bridge having to retract


Additionally, the official stressed, there will be no cost for passengers as is now being charged by the ferries plying the Berbice River.
Trucks using the bridge will be charged by weight and not by size, the official said.

According to Winston Brassington, Company Secretary of BCCI, the tolls charged will be reviewed annually, taking into account inflation, among other things.

60% complete

According to Singh-Knight, the US$36 million bridge is 60 per cent complete and the BCCI is all set for a handover by the end of August with traffic flowing in early September.

Vehicles weighing more than 40 tonnes will not be allowed to use the bridge.

According to Henny Muskens, Site Supervisor of Rexroth Bosch Group, a European consortium which is the contractor, already 18 spans of the 39 have already been installed.

The materials had to be sourced from Vietnam after checks in India and China proved futile.
Construction started in 2006 but there were setbacks because some sections had to be redesigned. It was explained that the high span, which will allow tugs and bauxite barges to pass comfortably to the ocean, had to be shifted and this delayed the progress somewhat.

Additionally, from eastern bank at Crab Island, the contractors encountered problems driving the anchors because of the hard ground.

Almost 60 persons are working to make the bridge a reality and change the entire way of life in the Berbice area which, in addition to being a key farming area, is increasingly becoming a trading hub because of close ties to neighboring Suriname.

It is estimated that two hours are lost on the Berbice River taking a return trip on the ferries.

While the high span was built on the water, the 16 spans that have been installed from the western side at D’Edward were built in the MMA compound.

The bridge has been given a 30-year life span, but according to Muskens, the bridge will last much longer with the necessary maintenance.

Meanwhile, Chairman of the BCCI’s Technical Committee, Bert Carter, explained that the bridge is being installed in phases to prevent problems with the river traffic since the open section between the high span and main bridge leaves the river channel free.

He disclosed that a major achievement was realized last Saturday when a truck was able to drive on the road linking Crab Island and Palmyra on the eastern bank.

Carter also noted that the Berbice Bridge will be much easier to maintain than the Demerara Harbour Bridge which has 101 pontoons as against the 39 to be used on the Berbice Bridge. The pontoons are key to the stability of floating bridges.


Pic: Work on the eastern end of the Berbice Bridge at Crab Island
on the access road. It is 40% completed

Access Roads
According to Rawlston Adam, General Manager of the Demerara Harbour Bridge, who is also overseeing the building of the access roads from D’Edward on the western bank and Palmyra and Crab Island on the eastern bank are 70 per cent and 40 per cent completed respectively.

He assured that the roads will be completed to allow traffic by September but DIPCON, the road contractor, has until next year April to finish the US$8.7 million roads with the necessary lightings and markings.

To realize the building of the access roads at the western approach to the bridge, some 35 families had to be relocated, while on the eastern bank, for the three kilometers of road at the Crab Island and Palmyra area, persons had to be compensated for 87 strips of farmlands.

Responding to questions why there was no walkway on the bridge, Singh-Knight disclosed that it had never been part of the designs.

She assured that the bridge has a one-year guarantee where “liquidated” damages could be claimed from Rexroth Bosch Group in the likelihood of any problems.

BCCI is also hoping to hire about 60 staff to run the bridge which will include a plaza of tool booths and other businesses at the western end at D’Edward.

The bridge will have the necessary lights and navigational lights installed at the time of handing over.

BBCI is a local consortium comprising of investors from CLICO Insurance, Hand in Hand Insurance, Secure International Finance, Demerara Engineers and Contractors Ltd, and National Insurance Scheme.

Reference Source

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Works are still underway on the high span of Berbice Bridge which will allow barges and tugs to continue passing without the bridge having to retract

D_G, the lost time is exponential especially for Berbicians who had to put upwith waiting and waiting and waitng in line to cross. I personally dont care if the bridge is not ready in Sept; I wish them well for I know its only a matter of months and not years. Best of luck to the GOG and to heck with the naysayers.

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Originally posted by Nippy:

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Works are still underway on the high span of Berbice Bridge which will allow barges and tugs to continue passing without the bridge having to retract

D_G, the lost time is exponential especially for Berbicians who had to put upwith waiting and waiting and waitng in line to cross. I personally dont care if the bridge is not ready in Sept; I wish them well for I know its only a matter of months and not years. Best of luck to the GOG and to heck with the naysayers.

And next we need an airport...

the talk for airports in Esseq and Berbice are there yes but I dont think the GOG has the money for that now nor will the major donors lend the money. for clarity ... I wish for airports in Esseg and B/ce also. Lets enjoy the bridge for now

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Originally posted by Nippy:

... I wish for airports in Esseg and B/ce also. Lets enjoy the bridge for now

Wan wan dutty build dam.

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Originally posted by Nippy:

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Works are still underway on the high span of Berbice Bridge which will allow barges and tugs to continue passing without the bridge having to retract

D_G, the lost time is exponential especially for Berbicians who had to put upwith waiting and waiting and waitng in line to cross. I personally dont care if the bridge is not ready in Sept; I wish them well for I know its only a matter of months and not years. Best of luck to the GOG and to heck with the naysayers.

I offered, on many occasions, on past discussions for the Berbice River Bridge, to debate/discuss any specific issues the naysayers want to present.

Thus far, none stepped forward with specific concrete issues of concerns, yet they continue with constant generalised negativities.

The debate would be focused on:

1. Aquatic Ecosystem Management and Protection.

2. Environmental Impact Assessment and Mitigation Management.

3. Cost-Benefit Assessment.

4. The rational for the BOOT approach for this development.

5. The specificity of the Technology for this project.

I am again making the offer.

The ground rules for the debate/discussions can be addressed should any one so desire to take the challenge.

Facts and their specific clear information must be presented.

There should not be any generalised tangential and broad sweeping statements on malcontent for the project.

They also should avoid making statements about race, indoist, hate, drugs, and yadda yadda yadda ad hominem nonsense about anyone -- just specific concrete facts of their issues.

Guyana going all the way to the Moon. Mr president now let us rid Guyana of ALL thieves and Terrorists. Do it before you leave Office. I know you can do it.

The Demerara Harbor Bridge was BUILT under the Burnham regime.

The Berbice Bridge is being built under the Jagdeo regime.

The Essequibo Bridge will be built under a regime that can build the most important bridge in Guyana: the one that bridges the racial divide that was exploited by both Burnham and Jagdeo for cheap political gain!

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Guyana going all the way to the Moon. Mr president now let us rid Guyana of ALL thieves and Terrorists. Do it before you leave Office. I know you can do it.

Firstly, if Baby Kong had such intentions he would have strengthened the Office of the Auditor General and passed the Freedom of Information Act & Protection of Privacy Act. To date after 10 years in office he has done neither. What does that tell you?

Secondly, how do the VIP latrines fit in the prediction that "Guyana is going all the way to the moon"?