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New York institute dismisses complaints by Guyana president


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NEW YORK, USA: The New York based Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) has dismissed claims by Guyana's President Bharrat Jagdeo that the Institute's President, Rickford Burke, has been hurting the country's image by his harsh criticisms of the Jagdeo administration.

Jagdeo, who held three meetings with Burke during the Caricom Heads of Government Conference in Brooklyn, New York on June 19, later told the press that Burke was biased against his government and was therefore inconsequential.

CGID's Director of Communications, Jevon Suralie, confirmed that Jagdeo and Burke met for about four hours and rejected Jagdeo's seemingly contradictory comment that Burke and CGID were inconsequential. He said Jagdeo's subsequent public demeanour and comments contradicted his temperament in the private meetings with the CGID leadership.


New York City Councilmember Dr. Kendal Stewart, President Bharrat Jagdeo and CGID President Rickford Burke at the Caricom Heads of Government Conference in New York
"This bluster is a quibble which does nothing but pander to his political base,." Suralie suggested.

He noted that Jagdeo nevertheless had chosen to skip a dinner the Caricom Heads had with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, to engage CGID.

"I doubt that a Head of State would engage an individual for four hours during a Heads of Government conference if that person was inconsequential," he said.


Suralie said the discussions were amicable and meaningful, and observed that, although Jagdeo and Burke disagree on many important political issues, there seems to be no personal animosity between the two as they have been acquaintances since high school but just have genuine political differences.

"What is important is not Jagdeo's political rhetoric, but CGID's ability to ventilate and promote the issues for democratic governance in the Caribbean and elsewhere, at the grass-root level as well as at formal institutional levels, including that of Heads of State level. President Jagdeo knows that CGID matters. He himself stated that he has previously had to address CGID's representations to his colleagues Heads of Government," he added.

"President Jagdeo must acknowledge that in spite of the disagreements with CGID, there are many issues on which he can work with the Institute to foster the development and security of all of Guyana, and to improve the standard of living of the Guyanese people, in accordance with the principles of democratic governance and respect for the Rule of Law. However, the significant issues of governance, human rights and conformity to the rule of law are impediments that must first be resolved or removed."

Suralie noted that CGID supports, in principle, Guyana's efforts to get carbon credits for it's pristine rain forests and in their meeting Burke, encouraged Jagdeo to adopt a nonpartisan approach by including the views of civil society and the political opposition into his positions, so that there can be a national consensus and a unified approach on this important issue.

He said that Burke informed Jagdeo that CGID also supports Guyana's principled positions on the Suriname and Venezuela border disputes. Additionally, CGID supports its announced initiative in oil and natural gas exploration, as well as developmental projects like the hydro-electric project, the highway to Brazil, the Takatu and the Berbice River bridges, etc.

"President Jagdeo was told that CGID obviously wants to see Guyana and every other Caribbean nation develop but what we are critical of in Guyana, is the many aspect of bad governance - questionable contracts, underhanded, sweetheart deals and cronyism, as well as the continuous infringement of the basic fundamental rights of the citizens and an abject repudiation of the Rule of law, the CGID executive stressed."

Suralie brushed aside Jagdeo's protest of CGID's classification of his government as an "ethnocracy" labeling Jagdeo's complaints as "propaganda."

"The issue of race is self evident," he argued. "Mere complaints about CGID are adolescent and wouldn't move us. We wish to see genuine inclusiveness, equality and social justice. If President Jagdeo does not want to be judged by his government's actions, then he must change course on the issues of race, crime and corruption. His denial of racial polarization is ludicrously contrary to reality and is condescending to the victims of racial and political discrimination. So we wish to see concrete action to defuse racial tensions and enhance race relations. When this is evident CGID would be willing to review its assessment of the Jagdeo administration's policy on these matters. Mr. Burke made this clear to Mr Jagdeo," Suralie asserted.

Burke also asked Jagdeo to facilitate dialogue and compromise as a function of government, which is essential in Guyana's multi-cultural, multiethnic society. "Mr Burke suggested to Mr Jagdeo that at some point he will have to meet with individuals and groups who have concerns about racism and racial discrimination to seriously address their concerns and benefit from their recommendations, in order to repair and enrich Guyana's national polity."

This, Suralie said, must be the first step in a process of national reconciliation and the fashioning of a political culture in which there is mutual trust and respect, and where all of the people feel represented not only at the table of decision making, but as beneficiaries of the national largesse.

Suralie said Burke had a contentious exchange with Jagdeo on the Roger Khan matter and that the president continues to deny knowledge of Khan's atrocities, and contends that the US government has provided no evidence of any murders by Khan.

However, Burke indicated to him that his position on Khan is neither credible nor maintainable. He said that Jagdeo told Burke that he will not appoint a Commission of Inquiry into alleged killings by Khan, as Khan is a "criminal" and must therefore be investigated by the police.

He also said that Jagdeo did not answer Burke's question on why he defended the same "criminal" when he was arrested by US authorities, or why he did not take action against Khan in Guyana.

"The fact is that more information continues to surface about Khan's close association with individuals in the Jagdeo administration, and it is the Institute's position that there has been government complicity with Khan,' Suralie contended.

On the Chief Magistrate's matter, Suralie observed that the president insisted that Juliet Holder-Allen's case was as a result of her reference to former Chancellor of the Judiciary, Justice Desire Bernard, as a solicitor.

However, Burke countered that the website of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) states that Bernard was trained as a solicitor; that she never filed a complaint with the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) and that Attorney General Doodnauth Singh offered testimony to this effect in the Supreme Court.

However, Jagdeo contended that Justice Bernard must then communicate this to the JSC.

Burke however, informed Jagdeo that it is puzzling to CGID that the president considers that Justice Bernard must inform the JSC of a fact they are well aware of , i.e. that they are not in receipt of any complaint from Justice Bernard against Chief Magistrate Holder-Allen.

Suralie reiterated CGID's call for Chancellor Carl Singh to allow Holder-Allen's appeal to proceed in the courts. He said that the Institute is taking particular note of this and other matters which have been deliberately stalled before the courts and wished to caution the Guyana government that it will vigorously challenge any attempt to confirm Singh in the position of Chancellor or to install him on the CCJ. "Justice Singh demonstrates grave political biases in the exercise of his judicial responsibilities, which has adversely affected the course of justice."

Suralie said that Burke also discussed the Oliver Hinkson and Tunke Stuart cases as well as the criminalization of Buxton with Jagdeo.

Jagdeo asserted that he was unaware of Hinkson's sedition charged until he read about the arrest in the newspapers, blaming the Police for making that judgment. He added that Jagdeo also claimed that Tunke Stuart carried food daily for Hinkson and has acknowledged being at a location where the police found ammunition but confessed that the ammunition belonged to Hinkson.

Suralie said Burke made it clear to Jagdeo that his story satisfied all the elements of manufactured hearsay and was no basis for the institution of criminal charges and that according to press reports, Stuart had denied the changes and pleaded not guilty in court.

Suralie slammed Jagdeo for merely complaining about CGID's critical assessment of his governance matrix, while demonstrating an unwillingness to effectively resolve the crucial matters Burke raised, including the political opposition's petition to Caricom Heads, the crisis over electricity rates in the Linden township, the granting to Mark Benschop compensation for his false imprisonment, among other matters.

He asserted that Jagdeo was noncommittal on taking the necessary steps towards good governance; on bringing the Phantom death squads and drug lords to justice; on neutralizing racial polarization and insecurities; on working to attain social justice and equality and addressing the epidemic of corruption in his administration.

Suralie observed that Jagdeo challenged CGID's charges that his rule in Guyana is based on ethnocracy and suggested that Ethnic Relations Commission found no evidence of racial discrimination. "What he failed to mentioned is that the ERC was setup without bipartisan support; that it was unconstitutionally extended by Presidential fiat; that it has no credibility in Guyana and that its current composition does not have the support of the political opposition.

"Now is the time for action. President Jagdeo was told that were he to demonstrate leadership and address the issues of concern to CGID, we will be willing partners in the promotion of Guyana's development, including CARIFESTA and lobbying in the international community for foreign aid; for carbon credits and environmental security assistance. But we will continue our course unless and until the President and the Guyana government satisfactorily address the menu of issues we presented to him," Suralie said.

He stressed that the resolution of these issues can engender an environment that is conducive to hosting of CARIFESTA - one in which there is political stability, equal justice under law, national harmony as well as mutual respect, and where the rule of law is unchallenged.

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likewise, the PPP should dismiss complaints from the CGID because they are racially motivated.
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likewise, the PPP should dismiss complaints from the CGID because they are racially motivated.


Eight more ppl got slaughtered like Animals in Guyana. What is Jagdeo doing about it?

Why don't he seek outside help to investigate and get to the bottom of it!

Why? Why? Why? Why?

Since 2001 and its getting worse.
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likewise, the PPP should dismiss complaints from the CGID because they are racially motivated.


Eight more ppl got slaughtered like Animals in Guyana. What is Jagdeo doing about it?

Why don't he seek outside help to investigate and get to the bottom of it!

Why? Why? Why? Why?

Since 2001 and its getting worse.


OK, Walter Mondale, even if I tell you, tomorrow you will ask the same question, so you should direct you question the editor of stabroek news..
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Lion King:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
likewise, the PPP should dismiss complaints from the CGID because they are racially motivated.


Eight more ppl got slaughtered like Animals in Guyana. What is Jagdeo doing about it?

Why don't he seek outside help to investigate and get to the bottom of it!

Why? Why? Why? Why?

Since 2001 and its getting worse.


OK, Walter Mondale, even if I tell you, tomorrow you will ask the same question, so you should direct you question the editor of stabroek news..


Rama, why don't you answer the question since you is a big Jagdeo man, why isn't he asking for outside help when Guyana has a serious crisis facing the country? What is he afraid of by asking for outside help?
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After all the so-called 'busing out' by Jagdeo on Burke, the men still had time for a photo-op? Strange world!
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Why would jagdeo want to meet with burke? Yuh ent see dis man is a ass...instead of meeting with guyanese who want to contribute to the country, he is on a journey for appeasement...Burke should dis his ass some more...
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OK, Walter Mondale, even if I tell you, tomorrow you will ask the same question, so you should direct you question the editor of stabroek news..[/QUOTE]

Rama, why don't you answer the question since you is a big Jagdeo man, why isn't he asking for outside help when Guyana has a serious crisis facing the country? What is he afraid of by asking for outside help?[/QUOTE]


Exactly what you think foreign help would do? Be very careful, if those foreign forces act take some hits and then just decide to leave, they situation would degenerate further. I doubt foreign forces would go into the thick jungle or enter into south Buxton and take on the terrorist. This has to be solved by the GoG and the security forces. I would be wary of relying on foreign forces for protection, Just ask the Tutsies how they felt protected.
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Why would jagdeo want to meet with burke? Yuh ent see dis man is a ass...instead of meeting with guyanese who want to contribute to the country, he is on a journey for appeasement...Burke should dis his ass some more...



And if he didn't, it would have been a victory for CGID and Burke. All would be saying Jag is afraid of the "flea". Now Jag met and mauled the bastard, you all complaining from the other side. Did he not meet other Guyanese, what is he doing in Canada?? Many are saying he should run back because of this latest murders. For some of you, nothing will ever be good enough. FYI, if you hadn't noticed, Burke is the ass of a flea who got dissed.
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FYI, if you hadn't noticed, Burke is the ass of a flea who got dissed.


So "dissed" that the BBC and other Caribbean heads of state re asking his opinion on this. I saw him at the recent Diaspora conference and he recieved much attention.
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FYI, if you hadn't noticed, Burke is the ass of a flea who got dissed.


So "dissed" that the BBC and other Caribbean heads of state re asking his opinion on this. I saw him at the recent Diaspora conference and he recieved much attention.


You saw him or you met him.. he is a racist just like you!!
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Originally posted by caribj:
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FYI, if you hadn't noticed, Burke is the ass of a flea who got dissed.


So "dissed" that the BBC and other Caribbean heads of state re asking his opinion on this. I saw him at the recent Diaspora conference and he recieved much attention.


You saw him or you met him.. he is a racist just like you!!



The flea is his hero.
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FYI, if you hadn't noticed, Burke is the ass of a flea who got dissed.


So "dissed" that the BBC and other Caribbean heads of state re asking his opinion on this. I saw him at the recent Diaspora conference and he recieved much attention.


CaribJ,

As usual, you are blowing steam out of your A--. He received much attention in a critical way by Guyanese who despise him. And note that most of those people were afro-guyanese.

No Caribbean head of state or the BBC asked for a comment from him.

Based on information I received, did you know that Burked was also dissed by an afro-guyanese, when they were meeting with BJ? The guy said he does not support Burke or his ideas and wanted no one to link him with the phoney CDIG. All the supposed members of CDIG which numbered about 5, all women, had praises for the president after the meeting. They were all very respectful to BJ. Burke was sitting with his tail between his legs.
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likewise, the PPP should dismiss complaints from the CGID because they are racially motivated.
Dude Jagdeo insults us in representing Guyana as a nation with no racial problems. We are here because of the PPP's reluctance to accept the obvious, black people will not accept him or his government unless they can feel they are represented inside the room where power is exercised. Tokenism will not work.
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No Caribbean head of state or the BBC asked for a comment from him.


And you know this because>>>>>>???????

What you need to ask yourself is why Jagdeo gave up an opportunity to meet B;oomberg, a very rich man, in fact his wealth exceeding the GNP of any Caricom country other than Trinidad he spent 5 HOURS with Burke. WHY????????????


An AfroGuyanese might not agree with Burke. Given that he is AN AfroGuyanese that doesnt mean that many AfroGuyanese dont feel that there isnt widespread racism against them in Guyana.

Also given that at least 90% of them, when given an opportunity to support him and the PPP, chose instead to reject him and them, at that is only this who votedd. When we include the total black registered voters and even smalloer amount voted PPP. When polled they said its because the perceive the PPP to be racist and Indo oriented.
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What does Bloomberg money gat to do with this? Jagdeo met with Burke to put the govt record straight. Bloomberg doesnt write diatribes against Jagdeo and his govt.
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What does Bloomberg money gat to do with this? Jagdeo met with Burke to put the govt record straight. Bloomberg doesnt write diatribes against Jagdeo and his govt.


Tyhe point is that meeting Bloomberg a wealthy man is more beneficial to Guyana than meeting Burke.

If Burke is so unimportant why did Jagdeo give up this opportunity to spend time with Burke instaed.

Bloomberg has $5 billion to donate when he ceases to be mayor after next year. Please dont tell me tyhat such a man is unimportant either to Jagdeo personally or to Guyana overall. Not only does the man hav elots of $$$$ but he knows laids of very powerful people.


Clearly Jagdeo thinks Burke is importnat and many that many listen to him. Does look as if the claim sthat a few Carib PMs harrass him over comments made by Burke must be true.
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What does Bloomberg money gat to do with this? Jagdeo met with Burke to put the govt record straight. Bloomberg doesnt write diatribes against Jagdeo and his govt.


Tyhe point is that meeting Bloomberg a wealthy man is more beneficial to Guyana than meeting Burke.

If Burke is so unimportant why did Jagdeo give up this opportunity to spend time with Burke instaed.

Bloomberg has $5 billion to donate when he ceases to be mayor after next year. Please dont tell me tyhat such a man is unimportant either to Jagdeo personally or to Guyana overall. Not only does the man hav elots of $$$$ but he knows laids of very powerful people.


Clearly Jagdeo thinks Burke is importnat and many that many listen to him. Does look as if the claim sthat a few Carib PMs harrass him over comments made by Burke must be true.


Caribj,

What will meeting with Bloomberg do for Guyana? Only 4 prime ministers met with Bloomberg.

And who told you that BJ met with Burke for 5 hours? BJ met with Guyanese and only about 3 were from the CDIG.

The same way Burke lies about his qualifications, its the same way he lied about the 5 hours he met with BJ.

According to my sources, Bobby Viera, Vance Williams, Chuck Mohan (a big critic of BJ), Williams(a city council candidate),Colin and Ela Moore,were in the meeting and they are not members of CDIG. And the meeting was from about 6pm to 8pm according to my source who heard it from one of the attendees.

BJ thought it was more important to meet with Guyanese and Burke promised to bring 50 of his members to the meeting. As usual he could't muster up 10 members. Note he is an organization of ONE.

Remember Mr. Shallow Caribj, Bloomberg will never donate any of that 5 billion to any country of the Caribbean
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Bhai, Caribj is in the Culture for "handouts". That is how he and the PNC think of Development.
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Caribj,

What will meeting with Bloomberg do for Guyana? Only 4 prime ministers met with Bloomberg.



Those PMs presented investment ideas to Bloomberg and you bet met him privately after. Willing to bet Bloomberg took note of who blew off his invitation and who didnt.

I am amazed that you think that a 5 hour meeting with a "flea" was so hugely important.

jagdeo is screaming about the environment, an important topic to Bloomberg. Effective Jan 2010 Bloomberg has $5billion to donate.

But meetiog and developing a relationship with one of the wealthiest men in the world isnt important. Meeting Burke is.


Amazing.


PS; Jagdeo said he met with Burke. Why?
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Bhai, Caribj is in the Culture for "handouts". That is how he and the PNC think of Development.



I see foreign investment is a handout and a developing strategy based on foreign aid isnt. What has been the PPPs strategy. Debt forgiveness and more loans from teh IDB and foreign aid.

How do you know Bloomberg wont donate to the caribbean? Bill Gates is donating huge amounts to Africa.

Any way meeting a man with loads of connections to people who might directly invest in Gy in IT or any number of other projects, provide dent or equity for various projects isnt important.

Begging Gordon Brown for more foreign aid is. You know $ that we eventually have to pay back.
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