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Member Registered:: July 21, 2008
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We have read and analyzed the pleadings of Kean Gibson but we are thoroughly disappointed that she has not highlighted the intrinsic fact which is at the foundation of the perpetuation of this stigma.
And that fact is that the vast majority of convicted thieves, from petty to bandits are young black men. Also the victims of choke and robbery and other street crimes, especially in the capital city know that the criminals who execute these crimes are black men. Therefore is Ms. Gibson being deliberate disingenuous and mischievous or is asking us to divorce ourselves from the reality of the situation which based on statistics and experience tells us that we are far more likely to be robbed by a black man than a man of any other ethnic make up? http://livinguyana.blogspot.com/ |
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Member Registered:: July 21, 2008
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I chose to bring this discussion here, even though it might be a bit contentious. In fact, even though, some may not want to admit it, it contains some amount of truth. What i am hoping, however, is that we would be able to debate the reasons being proffered for the dominance of petty crimes and banditry by "Blacks" |
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Senior Member Registered:: June 17, 2002
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What is there to discuss? The whole world knows the woman is a Looney Racist. To Hell with such babbling FOOLS!!!!!
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Member Registered:: July 21, 2008
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Why "Black people" dominating the banditry industry? Some say that it is because of their marginalization, i say that's false! It's because of the sense of dependency being instilled in them. Image, there are some folks on this forum who openly brag about having to maintain their Guyana based relative via Western Union. When they could very well encourage these folks to work. Some prefer to cry marginalization, when they have never even finished secondary school nor have they ever applied for a job! |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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SJ when you are ready to have an intelligent discussion on ethnic insecurity in Gy you will have it. Note however that criminal behavior by Indiasn who usually target other Indians is a fast incresing trend though a RACIST like you will never admit this. By the way given that 95% of teh folks in Richmond Hill work for others 90% of who arent other Guyanese can we assume taht they have aculture of dependency? I look forward to your justification of a thesis that says racial discrimination against Indians by the mainly non Indians who they work for is wrong but in Guyana if blacks demand equity in access to employment, promotions, contracts and access to supplies and financing for their businesses this is a "culture of dependency". |
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Executive Member Location: NY
Registered:: February 25, 1999
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You are such a dumb assed bigot that you are oblivious to it. What dependency are you talking about and who "instilled" it? Are any of the practically 35 percent of our population that make up that ethnic group on the dole or were ever waiting from handouts from the government? If remittance cease Guyana would cascade into a nightmarish hell hole. It amounts to close to half the GDP and is the source of capitalization of all the small industry and mom and pops shops plus the street corner peddling. |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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given that remittances into Guyana are equivalent to 40% of teh GDP one can pretty much say that Guyanese asre very dependent on this source of cash. Not only the direct recipients but the economy at large because these people do spend money, invest it or save it in the bank allowing a multiplier effect. |
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Elite Member Registered:: February 27, 1999
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I can't believe this guy can be so racist. The thing that bothers me is that you are close to the president. |
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Member Registered:: July 21, 2008
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Caribj everyone, regardless of his or her's race has access to all the things you listed. Show me one instance where a person or persons were denied access to "employment, promotions, contracts and access to supplies and financing for their businesses" because of their ethnicity and i will show you where Osama Bin Laden is hiding in Guyana! This is pure speculation and conjecture that has been deliberately used by the PNC/R, without one iota of proof, to keep their African constituents forever dependent! And you constantly repeat it which seems to imply that you are part of the Kongress Place outfit! |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SJ4321:
Caribj everyone, regardless of his or her's race has access to all the things you listed. Show me one instance where a person or persons were denied access to "employment, promotions, contracts and access to supplies and financing for [QUOTE] So every Indian had access to every thing under the PNC so why did you cry? Please what is happening today to black people in Guyana is the same as what happened to Indians, so if you believe Guyana is fair to blacks then it was fair to Indians. Even on another thread a teacher (quite likely black as most of the teachers are AfroGuyanese) says she and her husband cant live a decent life on their puny salaries. These are the jobs that blacks are limited to, so please dont babble civil sertvice nonsense. THEY STARVE. I suggest you go to www.guyanagazette.com and www.guyanacaribbeannetwork.com to hear what others have to say on this. Cry and cry for unity but you will not get it until people like you learn to listen to people. But you want ONE instance. A black woman who had a good reputation, considered competent and passed over for promotion at the GRA. Tell me why just about all the top people at GECOM at CBJ, the Guyana CWC committee, even Carifesta were Indians. Look at who heads commissions or committees (the only people who earn decent salaries in the public sector) and most cases its an Indian. |
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Member Registered:: July 21, 2008
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This is not surprising from you. Being, that you are one of the proponents of the dependency syndrome. You admitted on this forum to having to send hundreds of US $ to your relative in Guyana and affording him vacations to the US, after he constantly supplies you with your gloom stories about Guyana, even though he chose to return to Guyana, doing nothing instead of remaining in the US to work with you guys! |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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SJ if remittances are equivalent to 40% of the Guyana economy then if people like D2 sent nothing the Guyana economy would be half of what it is. Then your darling PPP's inept handling of our economy which has remained structurally unchanged since 1950 would be exposed. |
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Member Registered:: February 16, 2008
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"Black-People" beware........ cat eat you'll dinner if this Attorney who can tek Nuff Slap in Public become Attorney General of Guyana. This Drunkard dont know thiefing in Govt is also a Crime and he want be Attorney General....... and he got the gal to say " Black People Dominate the Banditry Industry".......... this Drunk chap like getting Slap-up.  |
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Executive Member Location: NY
Registered:: February 25, 1999
Posts: 31785
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Get something straight knuckle head. The president is out there with his begging bowl and you do not say, Stop Mr President! Let's boot strap ourselves and grow our economy and get off this dependency syndrome! Instead you chose to pretend black people are on welfare and and those who get aid from family to help lift themselves our of poverty are parasites. What I do for my family is directly related to the lack of options (not ability )for them to to do the same in Guyana. |
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Elite Member Registered:: February 27, 1999
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I loose all my respect for thi sman from today. This man is a sick individual. |
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Member Registered:: July 21, 2008
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Is "www.guyanagazette.com and www.guyanacaribbeannetwork.com" your Bible? "A black woman who had a good reputation, considered competent and passed over for promotion at the GRA." is this your reason? You accuse me of being racist, when you only see everything through the colour of the skin. Does the fact that a "black woman" who had a good reputation and was considered competent was by-passed for an Indian man who also had good experience, as he served in the Army's hierarchy, and was considered competent also for appointment as head of the GRA, explicitly implies that it was done so with racial undertones? Or is it that because she was Black and perceived to be pro-PNC and was by-passed by and Indian who was perceived to be pro-PPP that's the subject of your objection? What would have been your response if an Indian was by-passed for another Indian? Would it have been..............absolute silence? |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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If the woman was denied a promotion because she was black then clearly many, including you see everything through skin color. It certianly wasnt because she was unqualified, especially as the person who got the job was only qualified by virtue of race and political connections. You did open this thread with very racially insensitive commentary and you virtually admitted this. No it is evidence that other AfroGuyanese perceive a problem in Guyana. Furthermore Jageeo was angry that the caribbean press highlighted comments made by AfroGuyanese in Antigua about the racism that they face in Guyana as blacks equating it with the xenophobia they face in Antigua as Guyanese. Even when he attacked those who reported it notably he didnt deny the fact that this perception exists. You are a racist because you demonize an entire community for the acts of a few. Its a pity you cant see that. |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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And in Guyana blacks are punished daily for this perception. Tell me was Burnham justified in firing Indians because they were perceived to be PPP. He did this but based on your analysis there was nothing wrong with this behavior and had an Indian raised this I assume you would have accused them of being race obsessed. |
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Member Registered:: July 21, 2008
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Dummy! Lets rewind our selves to the beginning of this thread! We have read and analyzed the pleadings of Kean Gibson but we are thoroughly disappointed that she has not highlighted the intrinsic fact which is at the foundation of the perpetuation of this stigma. And that fact is that the vast majority of convicted thieves, from petty to bandits are young black men. Also the victims of choke and robbery and other street crimes, especially in the capital city know that the criminals who execute these crimes are black men. Therefore is Ms. Gibson being deliberate disingenuous and mischievous or is asking us to divorce ourselves from the reality of the situation which based on statistics and experience tells us that we are far more likely to be robbed by a black man than a man of any other ethnic make up? I chose to bring this discussion here, even though it might be a bit contentious. In fact, even though, some may not want to admit it, it contains some amount of truth. What i am hoping, however, is that we would be able to debate the reasons being proffered for the dominance of petty crimes and banditry by "Blacks" The first issue is that yes, i have agreed with the folks who wrote the piece, that banditry in Guyana is being dominated by blacks! Nowhere did i say or imply that banditry was limited to blacks only or the entire Afro-Guyanese population! So Caribj, please do not fault me because you've allowed your over-zealousness to get the better of your reading and comprehension skills, which appears to be limited! My point is; the marginalization excuse that is being proffered in relation to the "black's" domination of banditry is false! |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 23316
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SJ its people like you who create the Kean Gibsons. There is a valid problem of ethnic insecurity in Guyana that concerns Indians, Africans (and in adifferent way Amerindians). Rather than helping to foster dialogue with aview to removing the problem you promote the inferior black and the innocent Indian. Now how will you promote unity by 1. ignoring concerns as raised by blacks AND 2. stereotyping them as criminal and having a"dependency" culture As you demand that Africans respect the rights of Indians to vocalize their concerns give blacks the same right. So continue to advocate the sidelining of competent blacks by incompetent and politically |
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Junior Peeper Registered:: November 29, 2007
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