Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

Ravi is a smart man... all it takes is some Milk...you will have to be a bitter soul until the day you die..you had your chance but was too stupidee...up to now your are still the ass we all know you were.

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

Ravi is a smart man... all it takes is some Milk...you will have to be a bitter soul until the day you die..you had your chance but was too stupidee...up to now your are still the ass we all know you were.

One does not have to be a "bitter soul" to tell the truth. In actuality "bitter pills" and "swallowing" such pills do appear as metaphors for the easy acceptance of lies. Take heed least you gag on one of these.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

Ravi is a smart man... all it takes is some Milk...you will have to be a bitter soul until the day you die..you had your chance but was too stupidee...up to now your are still the ass we all know you were.

One does not have to be a "bitter soul" to tell the truth. In actuality "bitter pills" and "swallowing" such pills do appear as metaphors for the easy acceptance of lies. Take heed least you gag on one of these.

any gagging rite now will be on a Latino boobs...or a buck homan boobs...sorry yu days done ole fart..did you take your medication??? since you in bed ley we see how lang yu ole rass can stay up..i can sleep all day tomorrow but yu gat fe hit the road to wuk.

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

Ravi is a smart man... all it takes is some Milk...you will have to be a bitter soul until the day you die..you had your chance but was too stupidee...up to now your are still the ass we all know you were.

One does not have to be a "bitter soul" to tell the truth. In actuality "bitter pills" and "swallowing" such pills do appear as metaphors for the easy acceptance of lies. Take heed least you gag on one of these.

any gagging rite now will be on a Latino boobs...or a buck homan boobs...sorry yu days done ole fart..did you take your medication??? since you in bed ley we see how lang yu ole rass can stay up..i can sleep all day tomorrow but yu gat fe hit the road to wuk.

You do not know who you are talking to yet you presume to make assumptions. I know you and you look like crap. Any Latin woman of worth wiling to let you at her boobs will mean you giving up a lot of loot.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

Ravi is a smart man... all it takes is some Milk...you will have to be a bitter soul until the day you die..you had your chance but was too stupidee...up to now your are still the ass we all know you were.

One does not have to be a "bitter soul" to tell the truth. In actuality "bitter pills" and "swallowing" such pills do appear as metaphors for the easy acceptance of lies. Take heed least you gag on one of these.

any gagging rite now will be on a Latino boobs...or a buck homan boobs...sorry yu days done ole fart..did you take your medication??? since you in bed ley we see how lang yu ole rass can stay up..i can sleep all day tomorrow but yu gat fe hit the road to wuk.

You do not know who you are talking to yet you presume to make assumptions. I know you and you look like crap. Any Latin woman of worth wiling to let you at her boobs will mean you giving up a lot of loot.

I don't know you?? i wish i didn't...ah wonder how much loot yu give up fe the one you have

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

Ravi's rejection of Freddie Kissoon's charge of elected dictatorship in Guyana should not be interpreted as move away from the ideas ROAR expoused from inception. Baytoram and Harripaul are both upset about Ravi's reluctance to lambast the PPP with constant anti-communist attacks. I am wondering where these other fellas are heading this time.

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Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

Your PPP denies it except just before elections. Isnt it up to them to arrest those who foster violence? They dont so one would think that they dont deserve support....but in 2011 they will receive the award for "good" performance again. So quit complaining.

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Your PPP denies it except just before elections.

at least you admit to the existence of such.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

Ravi's rejection of Freddie Kissoon's charge of elected dictatorship in Guyana should not be interpreted as move away from the ideas ROAR expoused from inception. Baytoram and Harripaul are both upset about Ravi's reluctance to lambast the PPP with constant anti-communist attacks. I am wondering where these other fellas are heading this time.

I have nothing but the greatest respect for both harripaul and baytoram both of whom have been swimming 'against the grain'. However , both have been supportive as well as critical of Dev as if or when neccessary . These guys are not out to hang people out to dry they are both sincere , something which is lacking in most of you here on GNI and in the media and politics .

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

Your PPP denies it except just before elections. Isnt it up to them to arrest those who foster violence? They dont so one would think that they dont deserve support....but in 2011 they will receive the award for "good" performance again. So quit complaining.

It is not literally up to the PPP arrest someone or a group for ethnically perpetrated violence. It is the job of law enforcement and the judiciary to carry out such functions. The gov't of the day is certainly not absolved in their responsible to ensure our institutions of gov't function ethically and professionally in the interests of every Guyanese citizen. The problem that has persisted from the days of Burnham is a police force and judiciary dominated by corrupted people who often show biasedness on the part of the opposition and Africans with the sole purpose suppressing the main political party which is now in office.

Baytoram is at Bay and would only come out when he sees a crisis situation facing the PPP. He uses his pen to blame the PPP for everything.

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Baytoram is at Bay and would only come out when he sees a crisis situation facing the PPP. He uses his pen to blame the PPP for everything.

The pen is mightier than the sword..

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
Those who are familiar with the politics of ROAR would like to know if defecting members of the party like TK are still concern about the Indian Security Dilemma. Ravi Dev told us that the PPP does not have the political will to face up to this problem and deal with it head-on. Is there still a conspiracy of silence when it comes to the violence being perpetrated on Indo-Guyanese??

The rock of ideas on which Ravi stood to make those assertions still exists even though he has apparently stepped off to graze in the PPP's pastures.

Ravi's rejection of Freddie Kissoon's charge of elected dictatorship in Guyana should not be interpreted as move away from the ideas ROAR expoused from inception. Baytoram and Harripaul are both upset about Ravi's reluctance to lambast the PPP with constant anti-communist attacks. I am wondering where these other fellas are heading this time.

I have nothing but the greatest respect for both harripaul and baytoram both of whom have been swimming 'against the grain'. However , both have been supportive as well as critical of Dev as if or when neccessary . These guys are not out to hang people out to dry they are both sincere , something which is lacking in most of you here on GNI and in the media and politics .

Quit your crap. How the hell is their letter writing or political advocacy more sincere or truer than anyone else?

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Your PPP denies it except just before elections.

at least you admit to the existence of such.

I have talked about this long ago. definitely since 2006 when I queried what reason diod grass roots Indos have to blindly worship the PPP as so many do.

Its you who wish to think that life for blacks under the PPP is so great...or that if they face racism against them that they deserve it.

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It is not literally up to the PPP arrest someone or a group for ethnically perpetrated violence. It is the job of law enforcement and the judiciary to carry out such functions. .

Do you know what you are saying.

Its not up to the govt to arrest some one who commits crime. Its up to agencies which represent the govt to do so.

I am not aware that the GDF or the GPF were private entities who were not answerable to the Ministry of Home Affairs and the Commander in Chief. Or that their present heads are not men handpicked by the PPP govt and seemingly eager to please their handlers. When as either Best or Greene been told by teh govt that tehy act against their interests with evidence furnished of this?


If the PNC controls the Joint Forces why have they mounted an international campaign damning them as thugs who kill and torture innocent people?

You also need to understand the role of a judge. A judge can only try some one who is presented in front of them for committing a crime with evidence of this furnished by the prosecution. When has the PPP ever done this for some one who they accuse of master minding ethnically based violence? If they fail to do so why blame teh judiciary?

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any gagging rite now will be on a Latino boobs...or a buck homan boobs...sorry yu days done ole fart..did you take your medication??? since you in bed ley we see how lang yu ole rass can stay up..i can sleep all day tomorrow but yu gat fe hit the road to wuk.

yo, did D2 insult Indian women? why are you insulting Amerindian women?

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Originally posted by D2:
I have nothing but the greatest respect for both harripaul and baytoram both of whom have been swimming 'against the grain'. However , both have been supportive as well as critical of Dev as if or when neccessary . These guys are not out to hang people out to dry they are both sincere , something which is lacking in most of you here on GNI and in the media and politics .

Quit your crap. How the hell is their letter writing or political advocacy more sincere or truer than anyone else?[/QUOTE]

you jump to conclusions very quickly are you losing your sanity ? where did I say their writings and advocacy is more sincere or truer than anyone else ? you ass-u-me too much ! you pull the trigger before you draw your pistol so often. Hope you are not losing your edge ! Baytoram is publishing perpectives of history which has been denied indians and guyanese by the PPP , PNC and most of Guyanese academia and intellectuals . Frankly , it is my opinion Baytoram has not only spoken and written his opinions but he has provided Guyanese historiography with information , opinions , views which will allow people to think outside the West On Trial as their political bible and defacto political history of Guyana .

Harripaul has been in trenches you have not visited and remain ignorant of and about . He has been in the trenches and knows what he is talking about . He may not satisfy your expectations but he sure provides views based on facts not fiction .

No one is stopping you and your following of intellectuals from doing the same . You see there is a big difference between those who can talk the talk but cant walk the talk . When you can measure up to Baytoram and Harripaul I will then recognize you as a activist and a promoter for change but until then just shut the f up and appreciate these people are doing what they believe can make a difference .

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by D2:
I have nothing but the greatest respect for both harripaul and baytoram both of whom have been swimming 'against the grain'. However , both have been supportive as well as critical of Dev as if or when neccessary . These guys are not out to hang people out to dry they are both sincere , something which is lacking in most of you here on GNI and in the media and politics .

Quit your crap. How the hell is their letter writing or political advocacy more sincere or truer than anyone else?

you jump to conclusions very quickly are you losing your sanity ? where did I say their writings and advocacy is more sincere or truer than anyone else ? you ass-u-me too much ! you pull the trigger before you draw your pistol so often. Hope you are not losing your edge ! Baytoram is publishing perpectives of history which has been denied indians and guyanese by the PPP , PNC and most of Guyanese academia and intellectuals . Frankly , it is my opinion Baytoram has not only spoken and written his opinions but he has provided Guyanese historiography with information , opinions , views which will allow people to think outside the West On Trial as their political bible and defacto political history of Guyana .

Harripaul has been in trenches you have not visited and remain ignorant of and about . He has been in the trenches and knows what he is talking about . He may not satisfy your expectations but he sure provides views based on facts not fiction .

No one is stopping you and your following of intellectuals from doing the same . You see there is a big difference between those who can talk the talk but cant walk the talk . When you can measure up to Baytoram and Harripaul I will then recognize you as a activist and a promoter for change but until then just shut the f up and appreciate these people are doing what they believe can make a difference .

You do not get to say your are more meaningful above others because you have been in the trenches for your cause. That shows devotion to ones cause. You get to be more meaningful because indeed you are in possession of some quintessential ingredient of fact that produces understanding but it is never more meaningful in the society than the stories of others. No one has more rights than another.

Also, I do not subscribe to the theory that Indians are the quintessential victims in Guyana. I think all Guyanese are victims to a proportionate degree given they all endured the same circumstance albeit from different perspective. DO you not think that blacks were demeaned in the reign of Burnham? Because of him they are still the object of contempt by many since somehow the PNC is a euphemism for black people.

Not you or Dr Bato or Harripaul or anyone can tell me to shut up. That alone is indicative that you are an ass and whatever you propose would take me into consideration but instead would be to my advantage. Everyone has a voice in the society. The bull these dude preach about Indians alone possessing sacred status as victims as is for the birds.