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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
It's free enterprise system. The government can't afford to build more TV and Radio stations. But the people can appy for licences to operate anywhere in Guyana. ..

1. Sharma will survive. Will the 30 people who lost their jobs?

2. You seem to be especially idiotic and illiterate these last few days. Poeple are saying they do not want a govt monolpoly over themedia and in fact some feel that NCN should be sold. So where do you get the notion that people want the govt to build more stations. They want licenses issued and the denial of this has been alleged. The govt needs to furnish proof that licenses have not been applied for if this is the case.

Although the media must free to express their opinions and air the news, they must must do it within the law.. The government has a right to monoploize the stations.. They have a right to protect the people from viewing false advertising and commercial gimmicks..

Then again, you always seem to be on the side of the law breakers..

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Although the media must free to express their opinions and air the news, they must must do it within the law.. The government has a right to monoploize the stations.. They have a right to protect the people from viewing false advertising and commercial gimmicks..

Then again, you always seem to be on the side of the law breakers..

Rama,that was the position of 'Odo' and Kit Nascimento back in the days.

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Although the media must free to express their opinions and air the news, they must must do it within the law.. The government has a right to monoploize the stations.. They have a right to protect the people from viewing false advertising and commercial gimmicks..

Then again, you always seem to be on the side of the law breakers..

Rama,that was the position of 'Odo' and Kit Nascimento back in the days.

Were they wrong?.

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Were they wrong?.

Very wrong.A society is poorer when we seek to limit ideas and alternative viewpoints,be it radio, TV and newspapers.

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Originally posted by Ireton:

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Were they wrong?.

Very wrong.A society is poorer when we seek to limit ideas and alternative viewpoints,be it radio, TV and newspapers.

That was during the Burnham days. This is a different time.. Guyana has freedom of speech..They have democracy. If you don't like the Government then vote them out.. Guyana has freedom of Movement. People migrate whenever they please. You no longer have to tell the governmnet what you are going to do with your money before you make a withdrawal from the bank..

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The government has a right to monoploize the stations.. ..

Yes Burnham agreed with you. He used exactly the same excuses to "protect" Guyanese.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Rama,that was the position of 'Odo' and Kit Nascimento back in the days.

Were they wrong?.[/QUOTE]

It seems like you agree with Burnham.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Guyana has freedom of speech..They have democracy. If you don't like the Government then vote them out.. Guyana has freedom of Movement. People migrate whenever they please. You no longer have to tell the governmnet what you are going to do with your money before you [\QUOTE]

1. If Indos vote race and there are more of them and their desire to be enslaved by the PPP is maintained then how can right thinking Guyanese get rid of them. Please note that 80%+ of nonIndians REJECTED the PPP.

2. The fcat that Guyanese migrate to every Cbn island shows what they think of PPP rule. Not much.

3. I see that feedom of speech under PPP rule means that you are free to speak unless we dont like what you say, and if we dont like what you say we shut you down or refuse to use tax payers $ advertise with you.

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Originally posted by Errol Arthur:

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Originally posted by caribj:

You know what. You agree with Jagdeo's act of childish and petty rage at putting 30 people out of work in his anger at a 78 y/o granny.

You just dont want to admit that this is exactly what Burnham would have done.

1. You display a phenomenal naivete to argue that this is about putting 30 people out of work.

2. This is NOT what Burnham would have done. Sharma would not have been broadcasting in the first place, and even if he was, he would have been long out of business through libel suits or official fiat.

Peeping Tom
Rambunctious and Cantankerous!
A few years ago, I saw a group of teachers behave in the most demeaning manner during a protest march. When I saw that I felt relieved that my children are grown and no longer have to attend school.
I would dread to think that one of those who were behaving horribly would have had to teach my children. Given the way some of those teachers were behaving, their horribly disrespectful and rambunctious conduct, I would not have wanted them to be responsible for educating my children.
I felt deeply concerned at that time about the state of our educational system because I could not believe that persons that would behave like this could be employed as, of all things, teachers.
When I thought I had seen it all, I was to be surprised. I thought that nothing could outdo what I saw during the teachers' protest. Even after that display, nothing prepared me for the utterly disgraceful conduct of a group of workers at this year's May Day Rally hosted by the Guyana Trade Union Congress.
The brunt of their abuse was borne by of all persons, the very affable Prime Minister of Guyana, Samuel Hinds. I have never seen anything so utterly disgraceful at a May Day Rally. And I have seen quite a bit.
I recall when Cheddi used to be invited to address the May Day rallies. Those were hard times, far more difficult than what we are now experiencing. Those were also dangerous times. When Cheddi got up to speak he enjoyed the ear of most of those workers who stayed behind to listen. (In those days, about half of the workers would march to the park, collect their box of food and then wander off before the marathon speeches began.)
It was only in the latter years and mainly because of the instrumentality of Joseph Pollydore, the then General Secretary of the TUC, that Cheddi managed to be invited to address the workers in his capacity as President of the Guyana Agricultural and General Workers Union (GAWU).
Cheddi would rise to speak and almost immediately be would face non-stop heckling from a strategically placed group bent on drowning out his voice. He was heckled and booed and all manner of things said to him, but never was Cheddi, then opposition leader, chased away from the National Park or from the rally. Never!
The treatment meted out to the Prime Minister at last Thursday's rally is therefore a very distressing and novel development. Even more worrying is the fact that the group that was hollering him down comprised mainly women, and matured women at that. I could not believe my eyes when I saw what was taking place.
Here was someone invited by the Guyana Trade Union Congress being chased out by a group of workers. What is this country coming to? Is this the level of civility that we have descended to in this country? How can a Prime Minister of a country be treated in such a disrespectful manner, and by workers at that?
I was hoping that the media would have had some close-up shots of some of the persons involved. I would have loved to know who these persons were and just where they are employed because I cannot understand how such persons with such a cantankerous attitude can be employed by anyone at all. Are these really workers? What is happening to our workforce that we can find such ill-behaved persons employed?
I do not have a great deal of money, but if ever the Peeper were to win the lottery and if ever I were to get a ninety-nine year lease for a State facility to establish a factory, even if those persons offered to work for me free, I would never hire them. Never!
Attitude is very important. I have interviewed quite a few persons in my lifetime, persons who were seeking employment. Apart from qualifications, experience and skills, I always look to see what I could determine about the applicants attitude.
You see, there are certain things that you, as an employer, can change easily. If a worker does not know the job, he or she can be taught the rudiments. But a worker who has no class, no social graces, is ill-mannered, lacking in training and cannot put a lid on his or her emotions is a tinder-box.
And you should keep as far as possible from such a person.
Those who abused the Prime Minister last Thursday were making a political point. They were ominously chanting the same thing that was said during the post December 1997 political protests after Mrs. Janet Jagan became President, and this was repeated during the highly charged public service strike of 1999.
They were using the same intimidating words that were employed when large groups surrounded Government Ministries and coerced workers to leave their desks. They were shouting, “Out the place!”
Like a gentleman the Prime Minister left. He did the right thing!

http://guyanafriends.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/860604972/m...10800541#14610800541

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Originally posted by caribj:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Guyana has freedom of speech..They have democracy. If you don't like the Government then vote them out.. Guyana has freedom of Movement. People migrate whenever they please. You no longer have to tell the governmnet what you are going to do with your money before you [\QUOTE]

1. If Indos vote race and there are more of them and their desire to be enslaved by the PPP is maintained then how can right thinking Guyanese get rid of them. Please note that 80%+ of nonIndians REJECTED the PPP.

2. The fcat that Guyanese migrate to every Cbn island shows what they think of PPP rule. Not much.

3. I see that feedom of speech under PPP rule means that you are free to speak unless we dont like what you say, and if we dont like what you say we shut you down or refuse to use tax payers $ advertise with you.

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1. Indians didn't vote race. They vote for a party they would love to hate.. For what it is worth they cannot forget what happened to them during the Burnham era. They cannot forget just the afro_americans cannot forget what happen to them during 200 years of slavery.

2. You are very persistent in claiming that Guyanese migrate to every caribbean Island.. yes! A handful of them is hardly any reason to claim that they went because of the PPP.. Why are the islanders migrating in larger numbers.. You forgot waht the PPP did for Guyana..

3. Freedom of speech does not mean that you can libel people at random, or encourage violence, or advocate the overthrow of the Governmnet because you do not like their style of governnce..

The march, another in the People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR)-led actions saw one of the larger crowds in the series of protests led by the main opposition party so far and for a period descended into unruliness as protesters dodged police and broke through barriers to move into other areas that were not a part of the route, notably Regent Street.

is Corbin bent on making CARIFESTA?Guyana unmanageable ...
http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=11318

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The right to protest is embedded in the labour laws. Sharma lost his licence to broadcast the news because he broke the libel laws. the people who were affected have to be compensated by Sharma and not the Government..

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The right to protest is embedded in the labour laws. Sharma lost his licence to broadcast the news because he broke the libel laws. the people who were affected have to be compensated by Sharma and not the Government..

Who did he libel or slander in this specific instance?

Sharma was shut down for four months to coincide with the time frame that is set for the staging of Carifesta.

Jagdeo could not afford to have Sharma beaming negative information and facilitating Corbin to spew his own version of anti-government rhetoric in the run-up to Carifesta, so he imposed a four month suspension until after Carifesta is over. Do the math and you'll see that the four month suspension will end just when Carifesta ends!

This is why Corbin went public stating he will make Carifesta unmanageable. Carifesta is Jagdeo's opportunity to look good, and Carfiesta is Corbin's opportunity to make Jagdeo look bad. Sharma just happened to be the rabbit caught in the war between the fox and the wolf!

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Originally posted by Communicator:
Sharma was shut down for four months to coincide with the time frame that is set for the staging of Carifesta.

Jagdeo could not afford to have Sharma beaming negative information and facilitating Corbin to spew his own version of anti-government rhetoric in the run-up to Carifesta, so he imposed a four month suspension until after Carifesta is over. Do the math and you'll see that the four month suspension will end just when Carifesta ends!

This is why Corbin went public stating he will make Carifesta unmanageable. Carifesta is Jagdeo's opportunity to look good, and Carfiesta is Corbin's opportunity to make Jagdeo look bad. Sharma just happened to be the rabbit caught in the war between the fox and the wolf!

Thta is your conclusion.. Now prove your conclusions are correct.

Everybody on the GNI gave their expert opinion. So far we have about 25 different versions..

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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1. Indians didn't vote race. They vote for a party they would love to hate.. For what it is worth they cannot forget what happened to them during the Burnham era. They cannot forget just the afro_americans cannot forget what happen to them during 200 years of slavery.

2. You are very persistent in claiming that Guyanese migrate to every caribbean Island.. yes! A handful of them is hardly any reason to claim that they went because of the PPP.. Why are the islanders migrating in larger numbers.. You forgot waht the PPP did for Guyana..

3. Freedom of speech does not mean that you can libel people at random, or encourage violence, or advocate the overthrow of the Governmnet because you do not like their style of governnce..

1. If Indians dont vaote race but for a party that they love to hate then blacks dont vote race either.

2. You obvioulsy dont tfavel to the Caribbean so know nothing about the large numbers of Guyanese who live there. Given that the numbers exploded especially after 2000 this indicates what they think of GY under the PPP. Even Montserrat is a happier place to live than GY.

3. I note with interest that your definition of freedom of speech pretty much is the same as how Burnham would have defined it.

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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1. Indians didn't vote race. They vote for a party they would love to hate.. For what it is worth they cannot forget what happened to them during the Burnham era. They cannot forget just the afro_americans cannot forget what happen to them during 200 years of slavery.

2. You are very persistent in claiming that Guyanese migrate to every caribbean Island.. yes! A handful of them is hardly any reason to claim that they went because of the PPP.. Why are the islanders migrating in larger numbers.. You forgot waht the PPP did for Guyana..

3. Freedom of speech does not mean that you can libel people at random, or encourage violence, or advocate the overthrow of the Governmnet because you do not like their style of governnce..

1. If Indians dont vaote race but for a party that they love to hate then blacks dont vote race either.

2. You obvioulsy dont tfavel to the Caribbean so know nothing about the large numbers of Guyanese who live there. Given that the numbers exploded especially after 2000 this indicates what they think of GY under the PPP. Even Montserrat is a happier place to live than GY.

3. I note with interest that your definition of freedom of speech pretty much is the same as how Burnham would have defined it.

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1. The PPP is not an Indian party but it is supported by Indians mostly. That is because blacks formed their own party..
The PPP is inclusive to all. Everyone is free to join..

2. Those who ran from Guyana and live in the West Indies are those who are not welcome in the US and Canada, simple because they are criminals running from the law and not the PPP..

3. Yes! Indeed! It's the same as America where you cannot break the law at ramdom and expect to get away with it.. It's not how you defined it but how you interpret it..

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1. The PPP is not an Indian party but it is supported by Indians mostly.

Indians now know who they support dosn't protect them.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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The PPP is inclusive to all. Everyone is free to join..

2. Those who ran from Guyana and live in the West Indies are those who are not welcome in the US and Canada, simple because they are criminals running from the law and not the PPP..

3. Yes! Indeed! It's the same as America where you cannot break the law at ramdom and expect to get away with it.. It's not how you defined it but how you interpret it..

1. Only Indians join so its an Indian party whether you like it or not, and the fcat that it harbors racists like you who hate blacks is testimony to this fact.

2. There are loads of IndoGuyanese in Bdos and Trinidad and others scattered about the islands. You said they are criminals, not I.

3. I do know that Jagdeo loves Burnham's constitution. Evidently you despair when some on ebreaks those laws.

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Originally posted by Communicator:
Sharma was shut down for four months to coincide with the time frame that is set for the staging of Carifesta.

Jagdeo could not afford to have Sharma beaming negative information and facilitating Corbin to spew his own version of anti-government rhetoric in the run-up to Carifesta, so he imposed a four month suspension until after Carifesta is over. Do the math and you'll see that the four month suspension will end just when Carifesta ends!

This is why Corbin went public stating he will make Carifesta unmanageable. Carifesta is Jagdeo's opportunity to look good, and Carfiesta is Corbin's opportunity to make Jagdeo look bad. Sharma just happened to be the rabbit caught in the war between the fox and the wolf!

the PNC/Corbin ought to know there are better avenues to resolve issues
not by disobeying police rules and regs
not by storming a Presidential Office.

The Home The Home Affairs Minister, speaking to the media at the Office of the President yesterday, said he (Mr. Corbin) must provide the Minister of Home Affairs with the evidence.


“I cannot see how anyone in their proper senses would instruct policemen to shoot into a crowd indiscriminately. I cannot imagine a situation like that so why would Mr. Corbin concoct a scenario like this and where is the credible information?”


He said, “I, as the Minister of Home Affairs challenge Mr. Corbin here and now to provide this information that he has, that the police were given instructions to shoot into that crowd...If he doesn’t, again it would be seen as a highly irresponsible and inflammable statement.”


Corbin in an article in yesterday’s Kaieteur News said that police ranks were transferred for refusing to shoot at protestors last Thursday pointing out that it was a political directive.

http://www.guyanachronicle.com/news.html

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Originally posted by caribj:

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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The PPP is inclusive to all. Everyone is free to join..

2. Those who ran from Guyana and live in the West Indies are those who are not welcome in the US and Canada, simple because they are criminals running from the law and not the PPP..

3. Yes! Indeed! It's the same as America where you cannot break the law at ramdom and expect to get away with it.. It's not how you defined it but how you interpret it..

1. Only Indians join so its an Indian party whether you like it or not, and the fcat that it harbors racists like you who hate blacks is testimony to this fact.

2. There are loads of IndoGuyanese in Bdos and Trinidad and others scattered about the islands. You said they are criminals, not I.

3. I do know that Jagdeo loves Burnham's constitution. Evidently you despair when some on ebreaks those laws.

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1. Not only Indian join but amerindians, blacks, douglas, chinese and potugheses as well.
The last election proved that where the indo population is only 43% but the PPP received 55% of the popular vote.

2. Loads of indoguyanese my foot. The Islands have been a haven for escaped black criminals from Guyana.. They can't go to North America, so they ended up where they will be well protected

3. Burnham's constituition was amended in 1999. The PNC bytched about it. How ironic that was.. They made the law and they want to break it too. Well! It doesn't work that way. The constitution is no excuse to commit any crime..You can rejoiced as much as you want when indians are murdered and blame the constituion, that is not going to work anymore. You can protest when jagdeo jailed some of you criminals, it is not going to work anymore.. Listen Blackman, you do the crime, you do the time..

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2. Loads of indoguyanese my foot. The Islands have been a haven for escaped black criminals from Guyana.. They can't go to North America, so they ended up where they will be well protected

the above comes from a sick mind.