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Registered:: July 21, 2008
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After the massacre at Lusignan, a reward of $50 million was offered for information leading to the capture or (presumably) the neutralization of Rondell “Fine Man” Rawlins.

After he and another bandit with a reward on his head, Jermaine “Skinny” Charles, were run to the ground and eventually killed by a Joint Services team, many citizens, after their collective sigh of relief, wondered about the status of the reward. The President soon announced that the reward was to be shared between an obviously unidentified informant (one-third) and the Joint Services.

While this pronouncement did not raise any eyebrows amongst the general populace, who were obviously more concerned that they could now possibly venture out at night with less fears for their safety, it did elicit some criticism from the major opposition party.

They claimed that when rewards are offered to those in the police and the army to perform what is indubitably the job for which they are already paid, the government would be encouraging them to become “bounty hunters” who would be more interested in killing the wanted suspects rather than capturing them. This, they concluded, would initiate quite a dangerous trend.

It should be noted that the major opposition is not opposing the offering of rewards, per se, for the apprehension of suspected criminals. This practice, after all, is a standard procedure in many jurisdictions across the globe but especially in the USA. Generally, a wanted poster or bulletin is issued on the suspect with a photograph and detailed description of the individual and the crimes for which he/she is being sought.

The US FBI, for instance, has a “ten most wanted list” in circulation since 1950 and of the 449 who made it on the list, 421 were brought to justice. The rest either died on the run or have been cut from the list after the bureau no longer deemed them dangerous.

Of those apprehended, 131were caught, thanks to good old-fashioned snitching induced by the financial incentives of the rewards. Rewards are also offered internationally – Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden being two high profile examples – with the latter still outstanding.

However, the major opposition is actually making two contentions: that by accepting rewards, the law enforcement officials would firstly be tempted to become “bounty hunters” and secondly that they may shoot to kill rather than to effectuate capture of suspects, leading to trial. On the first point it is indisputable that in the overwhelming number of instances rewards are offered to civilians and outsiders who supply information or who may actually effect capture of the suspect themselves.

But the major opposition’s contention is apparently based on the assumption that the reward would be going to the crime fighters personally and thus giving them a personal motivation.

While not unknown, this direct monetary reward to crime fighters is fairly rare. In one recent case, policemen from mainland China were rewarded by the authorities of Taiwan for collaring an infamous criminal who had fled to that jurisdiction.

In another instance, a police officer on the New Delhi police force, who is about to enter the Guinness Book of World Records for nabbing the most criminals on the lam, accepted that he had collected some rewards.

But in our case it must be pointed out that the reward was to be passed on to the agencies or a special welfare fund.

The Joint Forces personnel would thus be benefiting only indirectly and it is unlikely that they would be corrupted by such oblique benefits.
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When criminals adapt strategies that were previously unseen in the criminal sphere, it becomes necessary that a different approach to crime fighting is adopted by the government of the day. As citizens are often clamoring for action by the state.

So i see no need for there to be any qualms about the GOG delivering on its promise to award monetary sums to those involved in Fineman's capture.

Of course those who were not in harms way will beg to differ! And those who have suffered losses as a result of Fineman's death will also feel the same!
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We should extend this strategy and also offer lucrative 'bounty' to those who expose corruption in Government.

Watch Senior Jackass run for cover now. Razz
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
We should extend this strategy and also offer lucrative 'bounty' to those who expose corruption in Government... Razz


This is an idea whose time has come. However, it should not only be restricted to Government nor corruption. It should include all sectors and include waste. The US government provides for rewards for those who expose fraud, waste, etc. They are compensated in proportion to the amount of money recovered. There are, however, two concerns: Firstly, the life of a whistle blower in never easy and always lonely. They are suddenly deserted by friends, coworkers, and even family. Secondly, the law has to be fairly and uniformly applied and administered. The protections granted to the whistle blowers must be guaranteed.

Having said all of that, though, I agree with you. Guyana needs it.
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Originally posted by Errol Arthur:
This is an idea whose time has come. However, it should not only be restricted to Government nor corruption. It should include all sectors and include waste. The US government provides for rewards for those who expose fraud, waste, etc. They are compensated in proportion to the amount of money recovered. There are, however, two concerns: Firstly, the life of a whistle blower in never easy and always lonely. They are suddenly deserted by friends, coworkers, and even family. Secondly, the law has to be fairly and uniformly applied and administered. The protections granted to the whistle blowers must be guaranteed.
This is but a dream for Guyana. There are too many corrupt government officals and judges!
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Originally posted by ICIP:
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Originally posted by Errol Arthur:
This is an idea whose time has come. However, it should not only be restricted to Government nor corruption. It should include all sectors and include waste. The US government provides for rewards for those who expose fraud, waste, etc. They are compensated in proportion to the amount of money recovered. There are, however, two concerns: Firstly, the life of a whistle blower in never easy and always lonely. They are suddenly deserted by friends, coworkers, and even family. Secondly, the law has to be fairly and uniformly applied and administered. The protections granted to the whistle blowers must be guaranteed.
This is but a dream for Guyana. There are too many corrupt government officals and judges!


It might be a dream but is it impossible? The Civil Rights advances of the 1960's were also considered a dream but did happen. How many, including you, would have believed up to year ago that a black man would today be standing on the threshhold of the Presidency of America?

If the people of Guyana want it, they will have it. If the Opposition decides to eschew the grandstanding and empty rhetoric and place this on the legislative agenda if the government does not it will have it. This will mean also that they will have to fight for it. Will they?
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
We should extend this strategy and also offer lucrative 'bounty' to those who expose corruption in Government.

Watch Senior Jackass run for cover now. Razz


Mr Nandalall's Mother-in-law can turn her life arond from Criminal to Crimefighter and expose a lot of people including her very own PPP Prosecutor Son-In-Law.
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50 MILLION DOLLARS REWARD

For any Guyanese who can provide hard evidence of corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP.

Starting with the President and working all the way down, the Committee for a Corrupt Free Guyana Government (CCFGG) is prepared to accept from anyone any documents, audio, video and audio-video recordings purporting to show where officials have engaged in corrupt practices.

CCFG is already working with Guyanese employed by the government who will function as 'whistleblowers' and once their stories are corrborated, they will be paid in US dollars.

Look for an office opening in Georgetown shortly.
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Originally posted by Communicator:
50 MILLION DOLLARS REWARD

For any Guyanese who can provide hard evidence of corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP.

Starting with the President and working all the way down, the Committee for a Corrupt Free Guyana Government (CCFGG) is prepared to accept from anyone any documents, audio, video and audio-video recordings purporting to show where officials have engaged in corrupt practices.

CCFG is already working with Guyanese employed by the government who will function as 'whistleblowers' and once their stories are corrborated, they will be paid in US dollars.

Look for an office opening in Georgetown shortly.


How can overseas Guyanese give money to support the Committee for a Corrupt free Guyana Government????
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Originally posted by Communicator:
50 MILLION DOLLARS REWARD

For any Guyanese who can provide hard evidence of corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP.

Starting with the President and working all the way down, the Committee for a Corrupt Free Guyana Government (CCFGG) is prepared to accept from anyone any documents, audio, video and audio-video recordings purporting to show where officials have engaged in corrupt practices.

CCFG is already working with Guyanese employed by the government who will function as 'whistleblowers' and once their stories are corrborated, they will be paid in US dollars.

Look for an office opening in Georgetown shortly.

Is there any particular reason why this is restricted to "corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP"? Are there no corrupt or criminal elements out side of that party that need to be investigated, and if found guilty, brought to justice?
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Should the ombudsman's office be reinstated?
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There should be no rstrictions but I guess you have to start with the Big fishes first.
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Let's get something straight. Guyana is not the place for one to seek justice in the courts. I can tell you that my family, having won a case against negligent allocation of land not belonging to the state to private individuals some six years ago, we are still to receive damages and compensation for court cost. That case also spent almost six years in the courts before resolved.

I presently have a jackass of an overseer telling me that I cannot have someone build on land that we were paying rates for over 3 generations and the overseer himself was collecting that 10 of those years and sending us notices for non payment at times. He said. He cannot determined where it begins or ends despite having the survey charts before him.

My cousins husband has his cousin squatting in his house. He claims to have purchased it from the father for 50US. The ridiculous part is that the old man died when the dude was 14! That case has been in the courts for some 10 years and presently it does not even have a trial date. Guyana, is a no mans land. Rice millers openly steal from poor farmers, poor farmers know there is no functioning land court so they plant on any land they can if allowed with no recourse unless someone beats them senseless. With the backlog in the courts officially pegged at 8 years,. justice still has lots of time more for a nice siesta.
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quote:
Originally posted by Errol Arthur:
quote:
Originally posted by Communicator:
50 MILLION DOLLARS REWARD

For any Guyanese who can provide hard evidence of corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP.

Starting with the President and working all the way down, the Committee for a Corrupt Free Guyana Government (CCFGG) is prepared to accept from anyone any documents, audio, video and audio-video recordings purporting to show where officials have engaged in corrupt practices.

CCFG is already working with Guyanese employed by the government who will function as 'whistleblowers' and once their stories are corrborated, they will be paid in US dollars.

Look for an office opening in Georgetown shortly.

Is there any particular reason why this is restricted to "corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP"? Are there no corrupt or criminal elements out side of that party that need to be investigated, and if found guilty, brought to justice?


Errol I see your point why PPP only????
Maybe it is beeing Funded or Supported in some way by Freedom House and they are now trying to clean up their Natorious Image they have got in the Past few years.
Look it is time the PPP do something about this widespread corruption going on in the Country right under their nose and eyes.
So they must clean up their own first before tackleing others.
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Originally posted by Errol Arthur:
quote:
Originally posted by Communicator:
50 MILLION DOLLARS REWARD

For any Guyanese who can provide hard evidence of corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP.

Starting with the President and working all the way down, the Committee for a Corrupt Free Guyana Government (CCFGG) is prepared to accept from anyone any documents, audio, video and audio-video recordings purporting to show where officials have engaged in corrupt practices.

CCFG is already working with Guyanese employed by the government who will function as 'whistleblowers' and once their stories are corrborated, they will be paid in US dollars.

Look for an office opening in Georgetown shortly.



Is there any particular reason why this is restricted to "corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP"? Are there no corrupt or criminal elements out side of that party that need to be investigated, and if found guilty, brought to justice?


You are right! There are drug and fuel smugglers who are into money laundering who should be investigated! How can I forget about these crooks who are operating right under the nose of the government? Maybe the paying the government to look the other way? What ya think?

But you can also ask the same question as it applies to the manner in which the PPP government restricts its pursuit of criminals to the brand that totes guns rather than the brand that pushes pens and pick up phones.

Can you imagine more than $GY50M have been unaccounted for by the government according to the AG's report for 2006? During Ronald Gajraj's time in 2003 alone, his ministry got $GY11M for guns and ammunitions and the AG can't find any of these items? That's stealing right there! Yet Gajraj got appointed Ambassador to India without an investigation into this theft!

That is just as terrible as killing people, because look at how many people have been deprived because this money could have been spent on food and housing or health. Economic sabotage is equivalent to murder!

You should ask why Jagdeo decided to have only ONE polygraph test done on CANU officers and fired nine to give the impression that he is serious about corruption in government, when there are hundreds of others in his government who are living like fat cats?
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Originally posted by CaneCutta:
quote:
Originally posted by Errol Arthur:
quote:
Originally posted by Communicator:
50 MILLION DOLLARS REWARD

For any Guyanese who can provide hard evidence of corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP.

Starting with the President and working all the way down, the Committee for a Corrupt Free Guyana Government (CCFGG) is prepared to accept from anyone any documents, audio, video and audio-video recordings purporting to show where officials have engaged in corrupt practices.

CCFG is already working with Guyanese employed by the government who will function as 'whistleblowers' and once their stories are corrborated, they will be paid in US dollars.

Look for an office opening in Georgetown shortly.

Is there any particular reason why this is restricted to "corrupt criminal elements in the Guyana Government run by the PPP"? Are there no corrupt or criminal elements out side of that party that need to be investigated, and if found guilty, brought to justice?


Errol I see your point why PPP only????
Maybe it is beeing Funded or Supported in some way by Freedom House and they are now trying to clean up their Natorious Image they have got in the Past few years.
Look it is time the PPP do something about this widespread corruption going on in the Country right under their nose and eyes.
So they must clean up their own first before tackleing others.

I thought you were about to going to say " guyana under the current administration is no place for a black man"
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
We should extend this strategy and also offer lucrative 'bounty' to those who expose corruption in Government.

Watch Senior Jackass run for cover now. Razz

Do you have any substantive proof of Corruption in the Government?
Why mere speculation.
Why not comment on the P.N.C.
Has the P.N.C Leadership came forward and congratulated the joint forces in their efforts in capturing "fine man and "skinny".
Who are responsible for the Bartica and Lusignan massacre.
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Originally posted by The Terminator:
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
We should extend this strategy and also offer lucrative 'bounty' to those who expose corruption in Government.

Watch Senior Jackass run for cover now. Razz

Do you have any substantive proof of Corruption in the Government?
Why mere speculation.
Why not comment on the P.N.C.
Has the P.N.C Leadership came forward and congratulated the joint forces in their efforts in capturing "fine man and "skinny".
Who are responsible for the Bartica and Lusignan massacre.


That's right Term, the PNC government during Burnham's rule has raped this country over and over again and drove us into the gutter! As they were busy fulling their pockets people were left to stand in long lines waiting for food. In those days you had to be a holder of a PNC party card to get food. Speak of those days!
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