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Location: Guyana
Registered:: February 28, 2009
Posts: 1706
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Some years ago, Guyana felt the heavy blow of the changing nature of crime in the Caribbean. The unprecedented violent nature of crime and the pervasive evidence of an organized network with suspected political influence showed that what we and the region were experiencing and to an extent still confronting, demand that the entire society fight back.The administration has taken a holistic approach to this situation: provide the appropriate legislative framework, implement the right policy for the law enforcement agencies, allocate huge sums for fighting crime, and address social weaknesses which can contribute to a fertile crime and violence environment. To date the PNC/AFC has divorced itself in aiding the Government in this national cause.
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Location: Guyana
Registered:: February 28, 2009
Posts: 1706
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There is little use for empty political rhetoric. More comical was the talk that an opposition party can have its own `crime plan’ but at the same time hesitates to play any positive role in the national response. I wonder why.
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Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
Posts: 3587
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Tell it to each and every family still awaiting justice. Tell it to the family of the waitress who was shot and killed like an animal a few weeks ago.Just yesterday a businessman was robbed,yet,you here writing this dribble about the govt making folks safe. How safe was the pastor in Linden last week in Amelia's Ward? |
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 33815
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Those are isolated cases.. It's much safer to visit guyana now. The atmosphere is just right for business.. The police as they said,"ain't mekking jokes anymore". |
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Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
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I know Rama,like stealing funds from their headquarters. |
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 33815
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No! you don't know! It'not like stealing funds.. The police are ready to do their jobs. They realize that the PPP could have fired the whole lot of them but decided to stick with the good, the ugly and the bad.. |
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Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
Posts: 3587
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Ready for what? Rob and steal from the people. Ask the people of Berbice how much they trust your police. |
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 33815
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Ask the people how much they trust the PNC and their rejects in the AFC? The police go after criminals not the people of berbice. Dis time na lang time.. The people will once again return the PPP to power.. |
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Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
Posts: 3587
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The PNC is part of the problem.It is noteworthy that you are singing "dis time nan lang time " from the safety of cold Brampton. |
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 33815
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Stick to the issue at hand. Don't bring in Brampton. You are losing this debate, so don't attack me.. The PNC was part of the problem. They no long control the police. They no longer can force the police to commit acts of violence against the people. The PPP has done good. Thanks to Sam hinds.. Crime is down.. |
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Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
Posts: 3587
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What do you mean by crime is down? Are we talking about solved crimes?Those who were before the courts and convicted? Help me here. |
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
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The people in Berbice don't trust the police. There are more than 200 unsolved brutal robberies.
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 33815
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Seeing that you asked for a clarification. I will tell you. I am not talking about those that are not solved or before the court. The criminals are running for cover and as a result there are less crimes being committed today than yesterday or yesteryear. |
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Registered:: December 09, 2009
Posts: 270
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Today Guyanese are not safe from the Criminals or the Funny_Fellas
http://guyanafriends.com/eve/f...60604972/m/747105804 |
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
Posts: 10206
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Head of the Guyana Police Force Criminal Investigation Department Seelall Persaud recently confessed that criminal gangs have been “causing headaches for the police force.” Despite dismantling some gangs and seizing illegal guns at a rate of nearly three per week, he reported that the surge in gang-related violence and organised narcotics and firearms trafficking were the main factors triggering a 36 per cent increase in general crimes, and nine per cent in serious crimes, including murders. The high incidence of gang-robberies and the use of illegal firearms, Persaud says, contributes to “a very high level of violence and fear within the society.” Stabroek News
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
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How can satisfaction be expressed when majority of crimes go unsolved under the PPP/C administration? |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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Berbician what role can the oppoistion parrties play. Wheh tejhy want to discuss crime you all refuse to let them speak? You all control the crime fighting apparatus (the police force and the courts). What do you expect the opposition to do? No you all prefer to play around with thugs like Roger Khan and the phantoms. Please dont pretend that you dont when almost all of your PPP supporters think that Roger Khan was a hero, Jagdeo refused to have him removed to the USA where he was wanted for criminal activities (which he continued in Guyana, thus jeopardizing our image and that of CBJ, and our export sectors), and cried bitter tears and cursed out Suriname and Trinidad when eventually RK was seized. Daily we see more evidence of crime and violence at all levels in Guyana. Yet you all have the cojonesto pretend that you are solving the problem!!!!!!!! |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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None are part of the Pradoville elites are cronies of this group. In Jagdeo's eyes they dont matter except on election day if they vote PPP. |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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Your comments please berbician,dood and SJ. Tell Jagdeo/Luncheon to be honest when they instruct you on what to write. |
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I pity the fool Location: London, UK
Registered:: November 23, 2002
Posts: 9462
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I wish that people paid more attention when typing their hedlines, thus avoiding any mistakes.
It should have read: PPP/C Government has made Guyana Safe for Criminals. |
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
Posts: 10206
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SAM-MAN says:
January 26, 2010 at 5:52 am JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY – SORRY FOR THE KIDS. I AM THINKING STRONGLY OVER THE PASS YEAR OR SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO GUYANA AND LIVE BUT STORY LIKE THIS IS MAKING ME THINK IT OVER AGAIN. I LIVE IN THE STATES FOR ABOUT 32 YEARS I CAME HERE PRETTY YOUNG, STILL LOVE GUYANA BUT JUST CANNOT DEAL WITH STORY LIKE THIS Napaloo Toanseed says: January 26, 2010 at 9:04 am With all the brutality and savagery that has become routine, I can only label Guyana as a very barbaric society. Leaving the US to go back and live in Guyana – this has to be one of the most backward thougts ever conceived. That country is still in the doldrums – centuries behind !!!!!! Deepest condolences to all suffering from this cowardly act…. Mees 174.92.132.193 not found says: January 26, 2010 at 10:17 am I hear you. I be in Canada just about 32 yrs. I just want to visit Guyana but am so afraid of the brutality. I’ll stay in Canada. Better for me to battle the snow than the cutlass. Ishmael says: January 26, 2010 at 4:52 pm I would not say that Rose Hall Town is a great place to live because one man took it upon him-self and stab my uncle to DEATH a few years ago, I was there to help my wife celebrate her 50th birthday, and that was her 50th birthday gift, (A dead uncle-in-law)and that’s only one example. See more comments on this crime in Skeldon |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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berbicain please take note  |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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This person who most likely supported the PPP seems no longer too...........berbician, dood,SJ? |
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Location: Guyana
Registered:: February 28, 2009
Posts: 1706
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The opposition parties can assist in crime fighting by first and foremost distancing themselves from the criminal underworld, however their continued flirtatious relationship with criminals sends a clear message that these criminals work in their interests. |
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
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They made it safe for guyanese to go back home to visit, live or do business.. |
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Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
Posts: 3587
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What about those living in Guyana?Where is the justice for those murdered by these two brutes? http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....l-to-murder-accused/ |
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 33815
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Justice will be done. Guyana is still safe. You can go there anytime. I did.. I didn't see any fighting in the streets or people getting robbed. I saw people hustling and bustling. Blacks and Indians working happily side by side. |
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Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
Posts: 3587
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[quote]Justice will be done. Guyana is still safe. You can go there anytime. I did.. I didn't see any fighting in the streets or people getting robbed. I saw people hustling and bustling. Blacks and Indians working happily side by side.
I was there last Easter for a few days. I saw lots of things,some good, and some bad.Yet,crime still is a major problem Rama. |
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 33815
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So it is! laws were passed and are now being administered. It takes time for the police to understand them and to make them work right. The culture is changing. occasionally you are going to have a big crime committed by unknown individuals when you least expected it . It will also sent the whole country in a panic. Then the media and the oppostion will chastise the government all over again. |
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
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Guyana authorities no match for druglords
Al Jazeera's Monica Villamizar reports from the the capital city of Georgetown that the authorities are no match for the druglords. |
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Registered:: November 29, 2007
Posts: 3077
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The country is certainly not safe from criminals, one has only to peruse the daily newspapers and see the violence that afflicts the land. There seems to be an organized band of robbers roaming the land armed with inside information that informs them when to hit and who to hit. This organized crime seems to be affiliated with a certain political party that stands to gain from fear in the nation.
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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berbician if it is true that the PNC, as a matter of policy, has been hanging around criminals, has information about criminal ctivity that they refuse to release to the authorities, and (Jagdeo claims) is actively involved in managing certain forms of "politically" oriented violent crime then these acts are criminal. Berbician if the PPP has information to support their claims as outlined by you and have not taken action THEN THEY ARE ALSO ENGAGING IN AND ENCOURAGING CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR TOOO!!!! So then using your claims BOTH the PPP and the PNC are criminal enterprises, and the PPP is implicated without us going into their own flirtatious relationships with criminals like Roger Khan, Morgan and others. |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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Drugb and if the other party knows about this affiliation with a certain party then they are also criminals. Withholding info on criminal acts is a crime. |
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Registered:: January 21, 2010
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Guyana’s population (2008 estimate): 763,437 Number of murders in Guyana (2009): 116 Number of murders per 100,000 of the population: 15.2 Trinidad’s population (2008 estimate): 1.33 million Number of murders in Trinidad (2009): 509 Number of murders per 100,000 of the population: 38.2 Jamaica’s population (2008 estimate): 2.71 million Number of murders in Jamaica (2009): 1,680 Number of murder per 100,000 of the population: 61.9 When it comes to the United States, there are at least fifteen major US cities which far exceed Guyana’s murder rate. I will just give the statistics for five of the highest, for the year 2008: New, Orleans, Louisiana: Number of murders per 100,000 of the population: 63.6 St. Louis, Missouri: Number of murders per 100,000 of the population: 46.9 Baltimore, Maryland: Number of murders per 100,000 of the population: 36.9 Detroit, Michigan: Number of murders per 100,000 of the population: 33.8 Washington, D.C.: Number of murders per 100,000 of the population: 31.4 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...cities_by_crime_rate Interestingly enough, all of the five major cities with the highest murder rates have a predominantly Black population: New Orleans – 67.25%; St. Louis, Missouri – 51.20 %; Baltimore, Maryland: 64.34 %; Detroit, Michigan – 83.73%; Washington, D.C. – 55.6%. The city with the highest black population in the United States, East St. Louis, Illinois (97.14%) has a murder rate of 101.9 per 100,000. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...American_populations Although New York city has a Black population of just 17.3%, they were responsible for a staggering 61% of all murders committed between 2003 and 2009. Source: http://projects.nytimes.com/crime/homicides/map Guyana can do much better in bringing down its murder rate, but it is certainly a much safer place than many North American cities. I have no intention of debating this issue - just food for thought. |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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Rishi why didnt you tell us that though NYC has 10 times Guyana's population its has just 4X the murders? Of course you picked the most depressed cities in the USA. How about if we did a true comparison and looked at the poorest parts of G/twn as an example? BTW blacks account for 23-25% of NYCs population. So lets take 60% of the murders, most of which involve disputes, not robberies, that is about 2.5X Guyana. There are 2.7X as many blacks inNYC as there are people in Guyana....so Guyanese are more violent then NYC blacks. ANd then of course you didnt talk about how many of those who commit crimes get arrested. But if you did Guyana would look like the Wld West with bandits roaming with scant fear of the authorities given teh atrociously low rates of arrest. |
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Registered:: January 21, 2010
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Caribj, The 17.3 % figure for Blacks in the New York population (2008 estimate) was obtained from the US Census Bureau site at: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36000.html. Perhaps there is an updated site to which you have access? Please share. I concur with you that to the extent that the Guyana Police Force has been doing a less than stellar job in apprehending criminals, the Guyanese society is being rendered less safe. Having said that, I submit that Guyana is still safer than ALL major US cities (pop. >100,000) which have a Black majority population (>=50%). I did not "pick" the most depressed cities in the US - these five presented themselves as the ones with the highest murder rates. Their depressed status neither alters nor excuses the fact that they do have much higher murder rates than Guyana. I reject your notion that we need to find depressed areas in Guyana to obtain a "true" comparison with these murderous cities. If we were to accept per capita income as an indicator of depression level, then the entire Guyana is infinitely more depressed than any of these cities and, based on your implied reasoning, should have had a much higher murder rate. New Orleans, for example has a per-capita income of $40,211.38 versus Guyana’s $3,900. How do you explain the fact that a city which has a per capita income that is 10 times higher than Guyana’s, has a murder rate that is four times higher? Clearly, depressed status alone does not offer a satisfactory explanation. Caribj, would you say there is a nexus between high murder rates and ethnicity in the US? Why are Blacks responsible for 36.5% of all murders committed in the US even though they comprise just 12.8 % of the US population? Is there any significance to the fact that all five cities with the highest murder rates also happen to have majority Black populations? Is there any significance to the fact that all five cities with the lowest murder rates in the US have Black populations that are 5% or less? Why is there a trend, even in relatively affluent cities like New York, for Blacks to be disproportionately represented in the number of murders committed? Given this pattern, would it be unreasonable to infer that the present murder rate in New York and indeed, the US as a whole, would have been significantly higher if the percentage of Blacks in the population were higher? Is there any major US city with a majority Black population which has a murder rate that is lower than Guyana? Curiously, the percentage of Blacks in Guyana’s population is roughly two and a half times the percentage of Blacks in the US, while the murder rate in Guyana is roughly two and a half times that of the United States. Coincidence? It would be tempting to suggest that Guyana’s murder rate would have been on par with the US if the Black population in Guyana were of a similar proportion, but one must resist the temptation. Who gets blamed for the depression and high murder rates in Black majority cities in the US? Is Uncle Sam actively marginalizing Blacks in these US cities? What is Uncle Sam doing (or not doing) to alleviate the depression and high murder rates and why has it apparently not been working? What lessons, if any, can the US offer Guyana about reducing murder rates, based on its seeming dismal experience in its own Black majority cities? |
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Location: NY
Registered:: February 25, 1999
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The murder rate among black people are black on black crimes. White folks don't get murdered in DC, only black and latin kids since most of it is senseless violence involving teenagers. |
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Registered:: November 29, 2007
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Regardless, answer the man's question, why do Blacks commit more than 30% of the crime when they consist of a mere 12% of the population? |
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Location: NY
Registered:: February 25, 1999
Posts: 38031
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It is easy to answer since there are many bright people explaining it so I do not need to go into it for you. The fact remains that the facile conclusion being elicited here is that black people are somehow prone to violence. I do not want to be lured into useless argumentation with simpletons. In some corners of the world and specifically Indian itself, our ancestors were considered the dredges and irredeemable in this life. Yet here you are with a last name like "Rugabeer" appealing to the same facile arguments that made your ancestors slaves for 6000years! |
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Location: Guyana
Registered:: February 28, 2009
Posts: 1706
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You are beginning to sound like a paid propagandist defending white America and passing off the blacks and Latinos as lesser Human beings. This is something that many Guyanese have argues for years, that in proportion to other countries Guyana's crime rate is far lower especially those countries that want to dictate to us how to fight crime. |
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Location: NY
Registered:: February 25, 1999
Posts: 38031
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Dummy, the above in no way excuses white America for being ignorant of institutional racism. It speaks to a pretentious attempt by two gentlemen of some erudition to pass off racist crap as "intractable disposition" of an ethnic group ie "New York city has a Black population of just 17.3%, they were responsible for a staggering 61% of all murders committed between 2003 and 2009." as supporting vidence of their thesis. Were you possessed of an ability to contemplate your contemplations you would see the thinly vealed racist conclusions that blacks are responsible for their condition and exigent circumstances such as institutional racism embedded in t the front end and back end of the US judicial system plays no part on the statistic are therefore irrelevant. And that does not even get to the crux of the matter. Also, being stupid you also cannot see the comparison between Guyana and here where the contextual difference in the violent crime epidemic is stark, ie, here it involves inner city gang violence concentrated in the young black and Hispanic male population demographics and there it involves an orchestrated violence by criminal elements that targets the business community especially. |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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NY state. Not NY city. If you arent capable of reading and no squat all about what you babble SHUT UP!!! and if you compare NYS with Guyana then Guyana looks even worse given the minimal murder rate in the suburbs. I will leave you to engage in your racism except to ask you if you have ever stopped to think what the % of murders in Guyana by Indians is. It might shock you. Evidently you havent stopped to see who are committing the crimes in Berbice recently, ands the fact that this group targets it own mainly.....and they are NOT black. |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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Two things. ONE the fastest rate of growth of the prison population are among Latinos, not blacks. TWO, had you come to NYC 200 years ago the criminals would have bene teh Irish. Groups that account for a disproportionate % of the urban poor are always over represented in crime. Hence the increasing crime among Latinos in the USA and Indians in Guyana as more of that group become urbanized. You did note the ethnicity of those committing crimes in Berbice of late and the fact that they have been cultivayting the pathologies of urbanized communities. El Salvador is a very violent nation. Moreso than Barbados but racists like you and rishi would have us believe otherwise. Based on the racial composition of the population which you use as your sole indicator without examining other factors. |
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Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 28449
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Berbician can you tell us when Jamaicans and Trinidadians have EVER claimed that they have the right to dictate to us about reducing crime? If however you bothered to check you will note that the homicide rates/per capita in the US, UK and Canada are lower than Guyana. You can focus on the most crime prone parts of these countries, but then they can do same for Guyana and I already your your wails that Albouystown, Agricola and Tiger cannnot be used to describe what our overall incidence of crime is. |
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Location: Guyana
Registered:: February 28, 2009
Posts: 1706
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So you are attempting to deflect and nullify the fact that those countries in proportion to Guyana have a far higher crime rate, by the way like D2 you have failed miserably. The PPP administration has taken a holistic approach to this situation: provide the appropriate legislative framework, implement the right policy for the law enforcement agencies, allocate huge sums for fighting crime, and address social weaknesses which can contribute to a fertile crime and violence environment. |
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Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 33815
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When a criminal is captured or killed in crossfire by the police, why do you cry foul. Why do you criticize the PPP for letting the Police do their jobs, why? why? why? If smiliar actions were taken by a black government you would have rejoiced.. |
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Registered:: January 21, 2010
Posts: 15
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When Bill Cosby dared to point out some unpalatable home truths to the Black community a few years back, he was pilloried by his fellow Blacks. Of course, he could not have been labeled a racist, much to the chagrin of those whose knee-jerk reaction is to dismiss anyone who points out the obvious about the Black community as a racist. I am no racist, but I am a realist. If the mere act of presenting statistics which show a persistent pattern of high murder rates in many Black communities earns me the racist label, then so be it. The statistics are what they are. We may choose to hide our heads in the sand like the proverbial ostrich and pretend that they do not exist, but the underlying problems to which they point will continue to fester and our societies will continue to suffer if we do not address them. Let me be clear on this: I do not think that Blacks are innately more criminal than any other group. They certainly do not enjoy a monopoly on murders, as recent crime reports emanating from Berbice indicate. But the evidence of high Black involvement in murders across the Caribbean and the United States is too compelling to ignore. I was hoping to have elicited, on this forum, some kind of meaningful discussion on causative factors and probable solutions, but it seems that I was overly optimistic in that expectation. Refusal to acknowledge that there is a problem is probably the major stumbling block to its resolution. In much of the emerging research on violent crime in the Caribbean, one key factor keeps popping up over and over again: absentee Black fathers. Many Black families in the Caribbean are characterized by single parent households headed by mothers who have had children, oftentimes fathered by several men, few of whom take an active role in child rearing. One UNICEF report on Jamaica, which had its bloodiest year for murder in 2009, states: “ …most Jamaican children are born while their parents are in a common-law or "visiting" relationship, but nearly half of these relationships have ended by the time child is five or six years old.” As a result, many young Black males have few Black male role models at home or even at school, where female teachers predominate. Lacking a strong father figure at home, their values are often shaped at street corners and they become easy targets for recruitment into a life of crime. It is no surprise that President Obama, in his eloquent style, had this to say on Father’s Day 2008 to the Apostolic Church of God in Chicago: "Of all the rocks upon which we build our lives, we are reminded today that family is the most important. And we are called to recognize and honor how critical every father is to that foundation. They are teachers and coaches. They are mentors and role models. They are examples of success and the men who constantly push us toward it. "But if we are honest with ourselves, we'll admit that what too many fathers also are is missing -- missing from too many lives and too many homes. They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it. "You and I know how true this is in the African-American community. We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled -- doubled -- since we were children. We know the statistics -- that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. They are more likely to have behavioral problems, or run away from home or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it. ... "We need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end at conception. We need them to realize that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child -- it's the courage to raise one....” What more can I add? I think I shall take my dear friend Caribj’s sage advice and shut up! One last thing Caribj. You are perfectly correct. How silly of me to have made the monumental mistake of mixing up New York with New York (city vs. state). I stand corrected. The corrected statement should now read: “Although New York City has a Black population of just 26.6%, they were responsible for a staggering 61% of all murders committed between 2003 and 2009.” |
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Registered:: January 21, 2010
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What a funny little man this one appears to be! He comes through as a pompous little windbag with a bloated sense of his own importance. Is he always this hasty and harsh in rushing to judgment? Is he always this excitable? His caustic tongue would put Katherine the Shrew to shame! I pity the poor hapless man whose miserable fate it is to share his pillow. But he does seem to have some redeeming qualities. I, for one, fancy his quaint verbosity which should provide some much needed comic relief! |
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Location: Guyana
Registered:: February 28, 2009
Posts: 1706
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People like D2 and Carib J would want us to negotiate with the gunmen while they are shooting at us. When the GHRA came out in support of Dale Moore and others yet they failed to mention one word about the victims it was then I realized that the GHRA, PNC and the other opposition were just here looking after their own interests and not that of the Guyanese people.
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
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Is Guyana gearing up to be a Ghost Country with all these daily skeletal finds?
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
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MoneyGram at Vreed- en-Hoop robbed
By Stabroek staff | February 3, 2010 in Local News The Vreed-en-Hoop office of money-transfer agency, MoneyGram was broken into sometime over the weekend and $3.3M was taken away, the police say. In a press statement, the police said that the incident is being investigated. It said that at about 8:45 am yesterday, it was discovered that the MoneyGram Office at New Road, Vreed-en-Hoop, had been broken into and a safe reportedly containing $3.3 million taken away. The locks to the outer door were cut and the office door prised open. Investigations are in progress. |
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Location: Guyana
Registered:: February 28, 2009
Posts: 1706
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Perhaps if we visit some of the reservations that massa took over in the US we would also find the charred remains of Geronimo ancestors  |
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
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A gunman on Wednesday stormed a Vreed-en-Hoop travel service and after holding up a female clerk managed to escape with $800 and a cellular phone.
Police said in a statement that they are investigating the armed robbery that occurred about 11 am at the Expander Travel Service, New Road, Vreed-en-Hoop, WCD. Investigations revealed that a female clerk was in the office of the Travel Service when a man armed with a handgun entered and held her at gunpoint. He took away $800 of her personal money along with her cell phone and escaped. Stabroek News.. |
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
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Three female teachers who were distributing National Identification Cards at the Enterprise Primary School were robbed of valuables at gunpoint on Friday night and the police have since held a suspect.
Police said in a press release on Saturday that they are investigating the armed robbery which occurred around 19:10 hours at the school during which the three female teachers attached to GECOM were attacked and robbed by two men armed with a handgun and a knife. Investigations revealed that the three victims were in the process of distributing the cards when the men entered the building and held them up before taking away a quantity of personal jewellery, three cell phones, US$100 and $9000 along with personal documents. The men then escaped and according to the release a suspect has been arrested. Stabroek News. |
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Registered:: April 29, 2008
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Bandits struck at De Kinderen, West Coast Demerara and Parika, East Bank Essequibo on Saturday night carting away money and jewellery.
At De Kinderen, two bandits armed with a handgun and a knife struck at the home of Veronica Rai, the police said in a press release. The incident occurred at about 9:30 pm when Rai and her two sons were home. Investigations revealed that Rai was in a hammock outside her home when the men entered the premises and held her up. They took her into the house and also held up the two sons and placed the victims to lie on the floor, the police said. The two men then ransacked the house and took away a quantity of jewellery, $50,000, a digital camera, a laptop computer, a DVD player and five cell phones after which they escaped. During the incident Rai was struck about her head and body by one of the men with the butt of the handgun. She was treated at the Leonora Cottage Hospital and sent away. Meantime, half an hour earlier at Parika on Saturday, two pump attendants at the RK Service Station were attacked and robbed by two men armed with a handgun and a knife. Investigations revealed that the two male pump attendants were confronted by the two men who held them up and took away $50,000 and two cell phones after which they escaped on foot, the police said. Police in ‘D’ Division went on several raids yesterday and arrested a man and a woman for having ten grammes of marijuana in their possession. However, no one was arrested in relation to the robberies, a source said. Stabroek News. |
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More incidences to follow later.
The investigation continues. |
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Then I presume that you are a big man, replete with divine wisdom and has come down like Zarathustra from the mountain to clear the air for us minions. The fact remains that what we have with you is the same failed arguments ( not even clothed differently!) that has been presented by the full pantheon of racist gods over the years and it goes nowhere except to placate a sick need to feel they are superior to another human being. You are just as facile as the ignorant back woods individual who does not know better in presenting the case. It is assumes the scientifically rejected proposition that race is a meaningful construct on which to build conclusions about indelible human traits. That being the case then you ought to look elsewhere to explain the statistics on which you so much anchor your grand ideas about your big man status. And pity yourself fool. You come from a sick lonely place that most of the world vacated a long time ago. |
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berbician Jamaica and Trinidad were more dangerous tahn Guyana in 1960, 1970, 1990, 2000 ans now in 2010. So why are you screaming that teh PPP demands praise for this fact? The fact remains that Guyana is a much more dangerous country than it was 30 years ago and you fully well know this. Since when do we see daily reports of gun toting bandits robbing from sll businesses all over Guyana or mercenary killings? That was something that happened in Trinidad. Not in Guyana until the last 10 years, i.e. under Jagdeo. |
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Most ordinary blacks agreed with him and if you dont know this you have no right to babble about blacks because it shows that your knowledge of us is derived from the white controlled press. This doesnt report teh widespread mentoring programs aimed at addressing many of the social pathologies that hit parts of the black community. Or the growing disgust at young girls with babies, boys dressed in an unkempt manner or uncouth behavior by many youths. Oh in your defense you will quote the reactions of Michael Eric Dyson and others of his ilk, revealing of course your ignorance of the fact that blacks are socially conservative and would love permission to beat their kids into proper behavior without fearing intervention by white liberal do gooders who will have them arrested for abuse. Talk to any southern black or caribbean black and he will tell you about teh days when if you didnt behave as a kid some "auntie" on the street would have beaten and then told your parents and then you got another beating. Funny since that is no longer allowed we have all this happening. Now I will ask you when will there be an Indian Bill Cosby who will address the widespread alcoholism, declining family values, incest, wife beating leading to injuries and even murders and other social pathologies which increasingly impact teh IndoGuyanese community. Both those resident outside of Guyana and those in guyana. Dont think we dont know about wives who have to rush to collect their husband's pay check before he wastes it in the rum shop, or if they run out of money and have no food because he drank it out they get a severe beating if there is no food. I myself have seen a growing juvenile delinquent INDIAN crowd developing as a result of these home environments. Dont think that the spate of robberies in berbice committed by INDIANS dont come from some bad home environment. I am always amused at Indians who opine at length about what happens to blacks but then cling to age old myths circa 1950 about the sociological condition of the growing Indo under class. Deal with your own problems before you opine about others...and if you want to stick your head in the sand some litle Indo kid will yank it out with a gun in his hand. |
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Dont invent arguments for me to defend against. The archive of this site can inform you on my position with respect to the individuals mentioned. My point has always been that the PPP needed to take control of its security forces, reform it from the ground up and that included sacking everyone of the incompetent ranking officers if necessary. It was always about the law and the need to use the law to secure the society. Hiring phantoms or sanction extra judicial action is never acceptable. Further, if you respect the tenuous hold you have on democracy you would insist that all citizens, even criminals, get their day in court. |
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No i would never ask you to negotiate with Roger Khan's now unemployed mercenary gangs when they attempt to kill you for failing to keep them gainfully employed. |
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This is the "peaceful" Guyana under teh PPP that berbician and others wish to report. And Rishi will deny that more than a few of these bandits are Indians. |
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I did not even see this piece of shit. Let me address it briefly since it is clearly the usual banal racist argument. Cosby has not revealed any truths not known and not being contended within the community across the spectrum of black intellectuals, politicians, social activists and in every black home. What some found displeasing was his pillorying of black youth and his omission of the odious conditions that are fundamental to their victimization by the law and institutional racism and to which they often respond with a seething rage. A cursory reading of his own personal story reveals he admits his vaunted appeal to inner strength in overcoming social and cultural impediments was not the only key to his success but he had the added ingredient of luck! Further, this is the man that made a living on the stereotype of the streetwise, jive talking, womanizing, trickster neg.ro, so it is quite remarkable that he suddenly got an epiphany! And as for you appealing to Cosby as a mask for your racism; that is truly pathetic. Cosby as black never suggests the statistics portends something sinister in the black man. There are no foreboding in his words that in the genetic code of black individual may be corrupt hence the constant with being at odds with life and the world. To the contrary, he admits it is their blackness that is the problem for the world! I suggest you watch his sanitized perfect black family he presented on TV and you will see that coming through s plain as day And what sort bull crap is “I do not think that Blacks are innately more criminal than any other group… But the evidence of high Black involvement in murders … is too compelling to ignore”. Within the interval of two sentences you did a flip flop. Don’t confuse yourself it is more honest to say what you mean than come in sheep’s clothing. If you cared to analyze anything or elicit conversation on the matter you would have demonstrated that Eric Dyson took Cosby to task and so did many others and that the statistics you so gleefully dispense has critics from across the spectrum of intellectuals from black to white. This is like using the Bell Curve as your keystone sand simply using poor Cosby as cover for your bigotry. |
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Condition of shot Qld man worsensDavid Barbeler
February 4, 2010 - 7:49AM A Queensland man shot by bandits in a South American bar has put off his planned evacuation from the country due to health complications. Jason Montgomery, 36, of Rainbow Beach, was in his local bar in Georgetown, Guyana, for after-work drinks on January 8 when three bandits entered and shot him in the chest. The bar attendant was killed and another man was also wounded in the attack. Mr Montgomery was due to be evacuated out of the country on Thursday morning. But Mr Montgomery's mother, Sandy Brosnan, told AAP the evacuation may have to be cancelled due to further health complications and chest pains. It's now not known when he'll be able to leave the country. "He could possibly have pneumonia but we don't know until the tests come back," she said. "We just don't know what's wrong. "(Getting information is) like plucking molar teeth out of that country I'll tell you." Mr Montgomery was initially taken to the Georgetown Public Hospital where he received surgery to remove the bullet. However, soon after the operation his condition deteriorated further and on January 13 he was then taken to a private hospital, where he has remained since. "The public hospital stuffed up and nearly killed him," Ms Brosnan said. "It's the most frustrating thing I've ever been through in my life". Ms Brosnan said she expected to have a clearer picture on her son's condition on Thursday afternoon. source |
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The GPF has taken the streets back from the criminals and the calm being experienced now should be attributed to the excellent work they are doing, including more arrests being made, however this is not an avenue for us to become complacent, the beasts are still out there waiting for an opportunity to launch their attacks. |
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Three held after kick-down-the-door robbery
By Stabroek staff | February 4, 2010 in Local News Three men are in police custody following an armed robbery committed on residents at a Duncan Street, Campbellville home yesterday. According to police press release, at about 5:30 pm yesterday two men, one of whom was armed with a handgun, kicked open the door to a house at Duncan Street, Campbellville, and held the two occupants- Joseph Phillips and Albert Kelair- at gun point. The bandits subsequently took away a total of $85,000 from their victims and escaped in a waiting taxi. The matter was reported and a quick response by the police led to the taxi driver being apprehended on Sheriff Street with the motor vehicle, police said. Further investigations led to the arrest of the two other suspects in a house at Dowding Street, Kitty, and the recovery of a toy gun. “The two suspects arrested in the house have been positively identified by the victims as the perpetrators and the motor vehicle has been identified as the car used by them to escape after the robbery”, the release said. The motor vehicle has also been detained. |
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The police in two different parts of the country are investigating incidents in which a businessman was robbed of his firearm and a taxi driver of $21,000 and his car.
According to a release from the police, around 18:15 hrs on Tuesday, a businessman of Annandale, East Coast Demerara was attacked and robbed by two men, one of whom was armed with a handgun. The release said the businessman was about to enter his premises with his motor vehicle when he was confronted by the men who held him at gunpoint and took away his firearm and ammunition and escaped. The police have since arrested a man in connection with the robbery. Meanwhile, taxi driver Dale Persaud of Gordon Street, Kitty, was attacked and robbed by three men, two of whom were armed with a handgun and a knife, around 21:30hrs on Tuesday. Police said Persaud was hired by the three men from his taxi base in Sophia and at ‘C’ Field he was held up and the men took away his motor vehicle HB 6920, $21,000, a cell phone and a wristwatch before escaping with the vehicle. The Toyota Raum vehicle was later found by the police abandoned along the Georgetown Seawall. Two men have since been taken into custody. Stabroek News. |
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Fellas no one has said that crime has come to an end, this would be stupid but compared to other nations who wish to tell us about how to solve our crime problems, our rate is way below theirs. And again this can only be attributed to the good work of the GPF
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Has any of the senior operatives of the crime/terror been arrested, tried and hanged?
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Waddell is dead |
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Whatever your protestations to the contrary, it is a fact that Bill Cosby was viewed as a traitor by many Blacks at the time he made his comments. It is encouraging to hear that initiatives are underway to address these problems. Hopefully, we should see a reduction in crime rates as these initiatives bear fruit. So far as I am concerned, intellectual curiosity has no sacred cows and I should be free to investigate any topic that piques my interest. Insofar as one group’s behavior is likely to impact upon the safety and well being of the wider society, it is entirely appropriate to comment upon it. I find it ironic that you should be calling me a racist when many would describe you as the consummate racist on this board – a substantial number of your posts would appear to be either explicitly or implicitly anti-Indian. When the shoe is on the other foot, you stomp your feet and petulantly shout “Shut up” like a spoilt kid. Indians are well aware of the social problems which confront them and trust me, they are talking about it. I know that several of the leading Hindu religious organizations have launched programmes in mandirs countrywide to deal with issues such as alcohol abuse and suicide. The Guyana Hindu Dharmic Sabha aired several TV programmes on the alcohol abuse issue a few months ago. Much more needs to be done, but at least no one is pretending that the problems do not exist, and more importantly, they are taking responsibility for it. |
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Do I detect the odor of defilement in Zarathustra’s sacred temple? Tsk! tsk! We do seem to be working ourselves into a temper tantrum today, aren’t we, my little minion? Now, now, this wouldn’t do at all, would it? Your quaintness is giving way to vulgar coarseness and this amuses not your Lord and Master Zarathustra! You shall undergo penance for this sacrilege! You shall go into the sacred cave yonder and beside the sacred fire, you shall contemplate this mantra: “innate criminality-patterns of criminal behavior”. Repeat it as often as it will take to penetrate that thick skull of yours. When you would have attained enlightenment and understood that patterns of criminal behavior are not necessarily indicative of innate criminality, and that it is perfectly legitimate to analyze such patterns without being labeled a racist, you may emerge from the cave. Now go, go! Here, take my celestial hankie and wipe the spittle and foam dripping from the sides of your mouth. It shall refresh you and make you whole! |
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OUCH..go lil lite wid dis ole fart... Rishikesh...don't mek D2 run away from this forum...this is the ONLY place he gets a little attention...please let him be...please  |
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Location: NY
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You apparently would know the state of the temple since secured a perch there. As for vulgarity, the intent to twist naked stats to conveniently assume the superior air is as vulgar as it gets. I suggest you take your own advice since it is pellucid that if the stats was not your anchor for some inevitable conclusion we are yet to hear the proposition that they suggest something external affecting behavior. Now the rest of your drivel is what you end up with when reality slaps you in the face. Did someone say comedy relief? |
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No one of any repute called Cosby a traitor. That is your convenient label. The protestations were to his one sided leveling of blame. If Indians are aware of their problems what makes you think that black folks are not equally cognizant of theirs? Sometimes we shove our shoe in our mouths ourselves! In every major university there is a black studies department. From the conservative Shelby to liberal West and middle of the road Dyson and Gates the air is full of commentary on the black condition. And that does not even cover the number of historic black institutions or even the prominent civil rights orgs all honing their attention to the black condition. And yes none of these individuals, institutions or organizations pretend that blacks do not have problem and none deny that black folks have a responsibility for themselves. Even your modes of contrasting the groups reeks of self serving bigotry. |
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