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With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
elections.

With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

the red meat for the base also translates as a mobilizing tool on the other side. They had no policy but did the Karl Rove turn around by going nasty. Democrats did not do that over the 4 days in the spotlight. They highlighted what they wanted to do.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
elections.

With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

the red meat for the base also translates as a mobilizing tool on the other side. They had no policy but did the Karl Rove turn around by going nasty. Democrats did not do that over the 4 days in the spotlight. They highlighted what they wanted to do.

if McCain can take it home tonight with his speech then its long uphill struggle for Obama.

If the Bush Admin including Paulson and Bernake could hold the house of cards of a crumbling economy together until the November elections, the Repups will win.
Why would anyone want to be President of a bankrupt country is beyond me.
Power corrupts and in one's head is gray mush.

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Originally posted by rabindra:
If the Bush Admin including Paulson and Bernake could hold the house of cards of a crumbling economy together until the November elections, the Repups will win.
Why would anyone want to be President of a bankrupt country is beyond me.
Power corrupts and in one's head is gray mush.

Why would anyone want to be President of a bankrupt country is beyond me.

You think Janet Jagan in 1997 and Bharrate Jagdeo in 1999 gave a second thought to this question? The answer to your own question lies in your last sentence.

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
elections.

With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

the red meat for the base also translates as a mobilizing tool on the other side. They had no policy but did the Karl Rove turn around by going nasty. Democrats did not do that over the 4 days in the spotlight. They highlighted what they wanted to do.

if McCain can take it home tonight with his speech then its long uphill struggle for Obama.

To the contrary, Obama is climbing up on ever demographics, has loads of cash and now meat to feed his piranhas with. It will be nasty and polarizing but in the end I think the voters will get it right this time.

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in the end I think the voters will get it right this time.

I honestly hope we do.

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
elections.

With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

the red meat for the base also translates as a mobilizing tool on the other side. They had no policy but did the Karl Rove turn around by going nasty. Democrats did not do that over the 4 days in the spotlight. They highlighted what they wanted to do.

if McCain can take it home tonight with his speech then its long uphill struggle for Obama.

He didn't!! Obama has replied and rebuted all McCain allegations. Mac was too much generalizing. had it not been for Sarah Palin, the Republican ticket would have been a lost cause..

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
elections.

With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

the red meat for the base also translates as a mobilizing tool on the other side. They had no policy but did the Karl Rove turn around by going nasty. Democrats did not do that over the 4 days in the spotlight. They highlighted what they wanted to do.

if McCain can take it home tonight with his speech then its long uphill struggle for Obama.

He didn't!! Obama has replied and rebuted all McCain allegations. Mac was too much generalizing. had it not been for Sarah Palin, the Republican ticket would have been a lost cause..

totally agree with you

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

That was then followed by an apology to the democratic party by her, and a swift return to Alaska for a month long teaching session about real politics.

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Originally posted by rabindra:
If the Bush Admin including Paulson and Bernake could hold the house of cards of a crumbling economy together until the November elections, the Repups will win.
Why would anyone want to be President of a bankrupt country is beyond me.
Power corrupts and in one's head is gray mush.

Bai, you out of yuh league.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
elections.

With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

the red meat for the base also translates as a mobilizing tool on the other side. They had no policy but did the Karl Rove turn around by going nasty. Democrats did not do that over the 4 days in the spotlight. They highlighted what they wanted to do.

if McCain can take it home tonight with his speech then its long uphill struggle for Obama.

To the contrary, Obama is climbing up on ever demographics, has loads of cash and now meat to feed his piranhas with. It will be nasty and polarizing but in the end I think the voters will get it right this time.

You are naive D2. The white undicideds will go for the Reps. They will take their chances with an inexperience VP than an inexperience President. In the end, the top is what matters and the Reps rolled the dice on the undicided and i think they played it right. Politics is not about righteousness, but about swaying minds, by the hook or by the crook, and both are equally successful.

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
elections.

With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

the red meat for the base also translates as a mobilizing tool on the other side. They had no policy but did the Karl Rove turn around by going nasty. Democrats did not do that over the 4 days in the spotlight. They highlighted what they wanted to do.

if McCain can take it home tonight with his speech then its long uphill struggle for Obama.

He didn't!! Obama has replied and rebuted all McCain allegations. Mac was too much generalizing. had it not been for Sarah Palin, the Republican ticket would have been a lost cause..

totally agree with you

What was her points?

It is funny the way the republicans are running this campaign as though they are not in power and had no hand in America's current state of dispair. I believe that Obama will win because of the economy. Some rednecks may overlook his color or take comfort that Biden and the other White advisors will prevent Obama from doing harm a la Burham, Mguabe and other infamous leaders of African descent.

That is wishful thinking. Why people are so bent on the notion that McCain is responsible for the country's failed economy? Obama is going to the white house to fulfill his political career. Obama will have to do a magic trick to quick-fix the broken economy, and there is no quick fix.

I like McCain as a person and would quite happily have him as my neighbour. He is however an old timer, representing the 20th century. His constant reminders about the Vietnam war underlines that score.
The world has however moved on, and many new leaders are less than 60 years in age when elected. The young voters already have an issue with trusting their destiny to old folks.

Palin is a danger to the US. She believes and supported a break away of Alaska, and in many other things that are divisive. That sort of views might be OK in Alaska, but there is a country called Canada that separates the mentality and values of Alaskans from the rest of the US population in North America.

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I like McCain as a person and would quite happily have him as my neighbour. He is however an old timer, representing the 20th century. His constant reminders about the Vietnam war underlines that score.
The world has however moved on, and many new leaders are less than 60 years in age when elected. The young voters already have an issue with trusting their destiny to old folks.

Palin is a danger to the US. She believes and supported a break away of Alaska, and in many other things that are divisive. That sort of views might be OK in Alaska, but there is a country called Canada that separates the mentality and values of Alaskans from the rest of the US population in North America.

I disagree!
She may speak from three sides of her mouth, but is that such a bad thing, our enemies will be totally confused and maybe some of you all.
I won't be as soon as D2 gets me her personal e-mail address.
Palin for President!

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Pink Panther:
elections.

With mike huckabee, rudy giuliani and palin speech.

Palin delivered even if we like it or not the best political speech of the year.

the red meat for the base also translates as a mobilizing tool on the other side. They had no policy but did the Karl Rove turn around by going nasty. Democrats did not do that over the 4 days in the spotlight. They highlighted what they wanted to do.

if McCain can take it home tonight with his speech then its long uphill struggle for Obama.

To the contrary, Obama is climbing up on ever demographics, has loads of cash and now meat to feed his piranhas with. It will be nasty and polarizing but in the end I think the voters will get it right this time.

You are naive D2. The white undicideds will go for the Reps. They will take their chances with an inexperience VP than an inexperience President. In the end, the top is what matters and the Reps rolled the dice on the undicided and i think they played it right. Politics is not about righteousness, but about swaying minds, by the hook or by the crook, and both are equally successful.

The rural whites will indeed go in part with McCain but not because Obamas is inexperienced but because he is black. Unfortunately, they are not in sufficient numbers to out weigh the highly motivated young demographics and that do not show up in the polls but are showing up to vote. Presently, Obama still leads and were the young to be taken into account he will have been broaching the 51% mark a long time ago. McCain has not come close.

I an not going on nativity but on the numerous potential pathways that available to take Obama to the the required number of electoral college votes. McCain has only one path, hold on to his republican base in the south and rust belt. Obamas base is hardened and will not be poached. McCain's has a volatile demographics inclusive of poor women and Hispanics who are highly persuadable and who will be targeted from multiple sources by the campaign.

Now it is a money thing and Obama has the lead in that and the lead in organization. He is tested, Palin is not, and while Biden is talkative he is not as easy to anger as McCain. Obama also does not have a hostile press at his back. McCain and his crew deliberately set out to burn their bridges by antagonizing the press. Additionally, there is charisma and brute force intellect in the Obama/Biden camp. I am highly optimistic the will win.

Did Obama made a pledge to get Muslims and Jewish votes, and what support he may get if he did?

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Did Obama made a pledge to get Muslims and Jewish votes, and what support he may get if he did?

Muslim and Jewish votes are of equal percentage of the electorate and on this occasion they are not on opposite sides.

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Why people are so bent on the notion that McCain is responsible for the country's failed economy?

If I remember correctly, he IS the Republican nominee...the same Republicans who have run down the economy and has the US in a war...plus making plans to start another war...have you been paying attention, or just another bind supporter who cannot think for himself

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Originally posted by Prince Juno:
Did Obama made a pledge to get Muslims and Jewish votes, and what support he may get if he did?

Muslim and Jewish votes are of equal percentage of the electorate and on this occasion they are not on opposite sides.

Not sure. The Jewish right is strongly pro-replican, and we know Palin is getting lessons from AIPAC as per yesterday's news. She also has an israeli flag in her office as part of her faith belief in Israel and Jesus advent being connected. McCain is strongly islamophobic, and that necc. plays into isreali and right wing Jewish strategy.
Muslims are also divided on the issue. A lot of Muslim reptulicans are out there...and they are a fickle bunch. Some of them like obie just because of his middle name and will willingly overlook his orga. dissing of muslim women just becuase of his name. Making them as racist as the whites who hate obie.
Matter of fact, some muslims from former colonies are so blasted racist that they would vote for two WHITE people because they feel that a black man ought not to be pres. Sadly, I have met them, I have spoken to such Musilms...it is not a figment of my imaginition, as I wished it would have been.
because of their divided stances, it might end up that both jews and muslims might be non-strategic factors, or at worst, pro-mccain.
Orthodox, Conservative: mccain
Reform: obie.

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Matter of fact, some muslims from former colonies are so blasted racist that they would vote for two WHITE people because they feel that a black man ought not to be pres. Sadly

Sir, conservative muslims are still muslims and they should no be look down upon, and it's unfair to tie them as racist for voting for their choice. We must not forget we are all living in a democracy where people's choice must be respected even if its not to your likeness.

Am I racist for leaning towards the republican?

Obama have to win the presidency fair and square and not given to him on a silver platter. I hope he is not expected to loose the race because he is a blackman either.