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Originally posted by Nippy:
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When the MAJOR INVESTORS said the berbice bridge was not feasible.... Jagdeo showed COURAGE, vision, and a lot more.... and insisted that Guyana will have not only the berbice bridge but also Takutu.

only a matter of time before the oil comes up

Now hold your horses there cowboy. BJ is showing limited courage and vision. What is being done is decades behind what the country has been in need of. The pace of progress is suffering from a deafening silence, and valuable tax incomes and foreign loans are being squandered on projects, the usefulness of which most won't even partly fulfil.
We need a revolution in thinking and solution if we are to keep pace with the rest of the world. The childish believe that oil will be our salvation is not based on world economic facts. Very few oil producing countries have seen an acceptable increase in the living standards of the general population, or increase in government funding of social provisions. Most of the money ends up in Swiss accounts.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:

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Originally posted by Nippy:
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When the MAJOR INVESTORS said the berbice bridge was not feasible.... Jagdeo showed COURAGE, vision, and a lot more.... and insisted that Guyana will have not only the berbice bridge but also Takutu.

only a matter of time before the oil comes up

Now hold your horses there cowboy. BJ is showing limited courage and vision.

Show me where i said BJ had limitless courage and vision.
Name me you leader of limitless courage and vision.

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Originally posted by Nippy:

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Originally posted by Communicator:

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Communicator:

Jagdeo is a Soviet educated economist who does not possess a visionary mind with big time dreams and plans; he can only handle routine petty socioeconomic projects and behave like the dictators in the former Soviet Union he studied under. There is also a question mark over his head as a man given to corruption and secrecy.

Cheddi Jagan ---- United States trained and educated.

Janet Jagan ----- United States trained and educated.

Forbes Burnham -- British trained and educated.

Desmond Hoyte --- British trained and educated.

Samuel Hinds ---- Canadian trained and educated.

And this is why he, being the latest in a string of leaders ....

YES INDEED, only a matter of time, and I knew that EVEN YOu would see the light... knowledge and truth forced you to call the man Jagdeo a leader; unless you prefer to go edit your post.

You called the man so many names, named the man in so many POSITIONS that one wonders whether you were privy to such sessions to have such intimate knowledge.

It is in the best interest of all Guyanese to advise, correct and condemn Jagdeo when he is wrong but to take every opportunity to condemn the man whether he is wrong or right, like so many of you on this BB,... is definitely not in the best interest of Guyana.

When the MAJOR INVESTORS said the berbice bridge was not feasible.... Jagdeo showed COURAGE, vision, and a lot more.... and insisted that Guyana will have not only the berbice bridge but also Takutu.

only a matter of time before the oil comes up

only a matter of time before other US airlines see the light and and join DELTA with service to Guyana.

unless you think the above are disconnected from reality.....

talk to Motilall and he will tell you that HYDROPOWER will be a reality for Guyana regardless of naysayers like you..

Mr T, where in the above post I said ... based on world economics stats oil will be Guyana's salvation.
It is likely to be one of the future booming industries in Guyana despite the wishes of Guyana's naysayers

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Originally posted by Nippy:

HYDROPOWER will be a reality for Guyana regardless of naysayers like you..

Hydropower indeed will be a reality in Guyana.

2. Stable source of electricity [ for local consumption and for export ] -- hence future developments to be undertaken either in parternship with foreign and local investors or entirely by foreign private investors and consortiom.

2. The BOOT concept, used for the Berbice River Bridge, could apply to other projects/developments.

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Originally posted by Nippy:

When the MAJOR INVESTORS said the berbice bridge was not feasible.... Jagdeo showed COURAGE, vision, and a lot more.... and insisted that Guyana will have not only the berbice bridge but also Takutu.

only a matter of time before the oil comes up.

See -- making a long story a short one.

There was a certain place ... people laugh, laugh, redicule and say all negative things about the place.

You know what .. that poor poor poor area that was know as a "have-not" place in Canada, continued with its goals, despite the daunted road ahead.

Well ... the rest is history .... in 1947 .. ther struck their first oil well that gushed "black gold".

That place ... Alberta ... emerged from a "have-not" provice to a vibrant place.

Just a little lesson to understand.

Hydropower is Guyana's "liquid gold".

Nippy,

Don't go getting your undies in a bunch. Writing that Jagdeo is the latest in a string of leaders is not a compliment, just an factual observation. You nincompoop!

The word 'leader' denotes someone in charge of leading and others following. The people who voted for Jagdeo are his followers. Others are leading their lives despite Jagdeo. There are good leaders and there are bad leaders!

Now, if I am criticizing Jagdeo as a LEADER, it is obvious that in my mind he is a BAD LEADER! So you can go ahead and blow your horn that I am finally recognizing Jagdeo as a leader.

He is a BAD LEADER! A FAILED LEADER! A CORRUPT LEADER! He needs to be led to the court room wher Roger Khan is appearing to answer some life sentencing charges.

NIPP'S MULTIPLE CHOICE:

What leader gives a drug smuggling baron the right to import eaves dropping an dphone-bugging equipment that only governments are allowed to import?

a) a tender gender leader

b) a conspiratorial leader

c) a lying leader

d) a visionless leader

e) all of the above

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Originally posted by Communicator:

What leader gives a drug smuggling baron the right to import eaves dropping an dphone-bugging equipment that only governments are allowed to import?

a) a tender gender leader

b) a conspiratorial leader

c) a lying leader

d) a visionless leader

e) all of the above

Hmmmm -- Does Forbes Burnham match your description??

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Communicator:

What leader gives a drug smuggling baron the right to import eaves dropping an dphone-bugging equipment that only governments are allowed to import?

a) a tender gender leader

b) a conspiratorial leader

c) a lying leader

d) a visionless leader

e) all of the above

Hmmmm -- Does Forbes Burnham match your description??

Forbes Burnham died 23 years ago. Do you know this? How is he relevant to whats happeing in Guyana today except for the fact that Jagdeo is intent to be as arrogant a micro manager and as intolerant and paranoid as he was?

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Communicator:

What leader gives a drug smuggling baron the right to import eaves dropping an dphone-bugging equipment that only governments are allowed to import?

a) a tender gender leader

b) a conspiratorial leader

c) a lying leader

d) a visionless leader

e) all of the above

Hmmmm -- Does Forbes Burnham match your description??

English Language is not as easy as it sometimes sounds or reads. Now, if you understand that, then you'll know why your post is inapplicable.

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Originally posted by Communicator:

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Communicator:

What leader gives a drug smuggling baron the right to import eaves dropping an dphone-bugging equipment that only governments are allowed to import?

a) a tender gender leader

b) a conspiratorial leader

c) a lying leader

d) a visionless leader

e) all of the above

Hmmmm -- Does Forbes Burnham match your description??

English Language is not as easy as it sometimes sounds or reads. Now, if you understand that, then you'll know why your post is inapplicable.

Have abeting drug smuggling activities and securing bugging equipment took place under the Government's administrative watch during the period 1964 to 1992?

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Communicator:

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Communicator:

What leader gives a drug smuggling baron the right to import eaves dropping an dphone-bugging equipment that only governments are allowed to import?

a) a tender gender leader

b) a conspiratorial leader

c) a lying leader

d) a visionless leader

e) all of the above

Hmmmm -- Does Forbes Burnham match your description??

English Language is not as easy as it sometimes sounds or reads. Now, if you understand that, then you'll know why your post is inapplicable.

Have abeting drug smuggling activities and securing bugging equipment took place under the Government's administrative watch during the period 1964 to 1992?

Drug smuggling activities have been going on for a long time, even during the PNC government days. However, I neither heard nor knew of any PNC GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT with such activities. If you have, then share it.

I also never knew or heard of any eavesdropping device being imported by the PNC government from 1964 to 1992, but if you have, then share it.

This is what gets me with people like you: everytime we criticize the PPP government about something and you don't have a strong defence, you resort to either accusing us of criticizing Guyana or bringing up the PNCs past. We are not your comrades; we are not stupid!

The government is filled with lots of corrupt practices and the people are following the LEADER!

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Originally posted by Mr.T:
Soon our neighbours in Suriname will be celebrating 50 years of their own hydropower project. Why do successive Guyanese governments have no intention to take the country forward into prosperity?

One needs to read the text of the statement to understand the issue. Surinaam got it via Holland while Guyana was left to cope on it's own. Without a major industrial customer, the economics become tricky vs. Fossils which many expect will not remain at these level over the long haul. Please note "the investor" have difficulties with the economics. I'm sure they are probably wanting certain guarantees of exclusivity to the market so they can recoup their costs even is oil becomes once again cheaper.

Under the PNC the project was viable given the proposed smelter which alone justified the investment, but the Venez screwed it up. The other beneficieries were not the deal-makers. In this case, it's primarily for general use which is difficult to sustain if/when oil drops to say $50/barrel.

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Originally posted by Communicator:
Nippy,

Don't go getting your undies in a bunch. Writing that Jagdeo is the latest in a string of leaders is not a compliment, just an factual observation. You nincompoop!

The word 'leader' denotes someone in charge of leading and others following. The people who voted for Jagdeo are his followers. Others are leading their lives despite Jagdeo. There are good leaders and there are bad leaders!

Now, if I am criticizing Jagdeo as a LEADER, it is obvious that in my mind he is a BAD LEADER! So you can go ahead and blow your horn that I am finally recognizing Jagdeo as a leader.

He is a BAD LEADER! A FAILED LEADER! A CORRUPT LEADER! He needs to be led to the court room wher Roger Khan is appearing to answer some life sentencing charges.

NIPP'S MULTIPLE CHOICE:

What leader gives a drug smuggling baron the right to import eaves dropping an dphone-bugging equipment that only governments are allowed to import?

a) a tender gender leader

b) a conspiratorial leader

c) a lying leader

d) a visionless leader

e) all of the above

Ah, ... here it is ... - the HYDRO thread and Mr Name-Caller.
BTW do you remember your statement ...

Major investors will never go where there is a shortage of readily available skilled, educated or trainable human resources. But don't tell this to that Joker Jagdeo!

this is the base for our current exchange when I clearly stated I disagreed with your above concept and continue to. I further stated if you are able to see your folly ... accept it. If not you are accepted for your belief... your democratic right



Obviously, MR Communicator, you have a problem with your communication skills and quite easily resort to name calling when you dont have the facts, as is obvious in your numerous comments regarding the President of Guyana.

However, dont be disheartened. There is still hope for you ...leave off the name calling, and get to the facts, unless its a sidekick of yours that saves you from costly medication; for in that case thou may be accommodated.

Did you use the word compliment.... hey no one asked you to compliment BJ as your leader but your acknowledgement of him being the elected leader of the Guyanese populace is noted. Now go ahead and knock yourself out, shout as loud as you can with all the nasty names you have for the elected Leader of Guyana. Have a Field Day.... Have Fun. Go make some real and personal sacrifice for the development of Guyana for who knows... it may be beneficial for you. Thereafter you may return and be entertained and enlightened on Major Investors in Guyana and why many others will go to Guyana despite naysayers like you. That was the essence of my initial response to you.... not your favorite sidekick... Mr NAME- CALLER.

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Originally posted by Communicator:

What leader gives a drug smuggling baron the right to import eaves dropping an dphone-bugging equipment that only governments are allowed to import?

a) a tender gender leader

b) a conspiratorial leader

c) a lying leader

d) a visionless leader

e) all of the above

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

Hmmmm -- Does Forbes Burnham match your description??

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Originally posted by Communicator:

English Language is not as easy as it sometimes sounds or reads. Now, if you understand that, then you'll know why your post is inapplicable.

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

Have abeting drug smuggling activities and securing bugging equipment took place under the Government's administrative watch during the period 1964 to 1992?

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Originally posted by Communicator:

Drug smuggling activities have been going on for a long time, even during the PNC government days. However, I neither heard nor knew of any PNC GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT with such activities. If you have, then share it.

I also never knew or heard of any eavesdropping device being imported by the PNC government from 1964 to 1992, but if you have, then share it.

This is what gets me with people like you: everytime we criticize the PPP government about something and you don't have a strong defence, you resort to either accusing us of criticizing Guyana or bringing up the PNCs past. We are not your comrades; we are not stupid!

The government is filled with lots of corrupt practices and the people are following the LEADER!

A. Inapplicable.

It is easy to weave a number of presumptions with a modicum of observations to leave the indication of connectivity, and then provide self-serving alternatives for deductions. That has been your general approach, thus far. Hence the issues of applicability of your presentations are generally questionable.


B. We and You

1. To whom are you referring as We and You?

2. Are the WE -- individuals, members of a group [ political or otherwise – AFC, PNC, et al ] etc?

3. Why is it that when your views are questioned, you refer to You and association with the PPP and/or make inferences to the You defending the PPP?

4. Deal with and address issues, rather than resorting to name-calling, hyperboles, and assuming political association and defenses.


C. We are not your comrades; we are not stupid!

Fortunately, the ability to think, assess issues and question ideas, thoughts, presentations, etc., is not the monopoly of any individual and/or group(s).

Demerara Guy,

Is this the best you can do? Geesh! It is obvious you are associated with the brain-dead PPP because you spend too much spare time hitting your head against the walls at Freedom House, pumping some kind of iron in the President's office: and using your roti pin to whack yourself over the head whenever you see yourself in the mirror!

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Originally posted by Nippy:

Ah, ... here it is ... - the HYDRO thread and Mr Name-Caller.
BTW do you remember your statement ...

Major investors will never go where there is a shortage of readily available skilled, educated or trainable human resources. But don't tell this to that Joker Jagdeo!

this is the base for our current exchange when I clearly stated I disagreed with your above concept and continue to. I further stated if you are able to see your folly ... accept it. If not you are accepted for your belief... your democratic right



Obviously, MR Communicator, you have a problem with your communication skills and quite easily resort to name calling when you dont have the facts, as is obvious in your numerous comments regarding the President of Guyana.

However, dont be disheartened. There is still hope for you ...leave off the name calling, and get to the facts, unless its a sidekick of yours that saves you from costly medication; for in that case thou may be accommodated.

Did you use the word compliment.... hey no one asked you to compliment BJ as your leader but your acknowledgement of him being the elected leader of the Guyanese populace is noted. Now go ahead and knock yourself out, shout as loud as you can with all the nasty names you have for the elected Leader of Guyana. Have a Field Day.... Have Fun. Go make some real and personal sacrifice for the development of Guyana for who knows... it may be beneficial for you. Thereafter you may return and be entertained and enlightened on Major Investors in Guyana and why many others will go to Guyana despite naysayers like you. That was the essence of my initial response to you.... not your favorite sidekick... Mr NAME- CALLER.[/QUOTE]


Hey Nippy,

Keep on knocking ! If after four days no one opens the door then you'll realize no one is at home inside that empty head of yours!

Mr Communicator,
Next time be more careful ..... it’s a forum we all share .

and BTW, do keep the flowers for your circle of friends, I'm sorry I dont play that game... dont go that way.

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Originally posted by Nippy:
Mr Communicator,
Next time be more careful ..... it’s a forum we all share .

and BTW, do keep the flowers for your circle of friends, I'm sorry I dont play that game... dont go that way.

Nipster,

Lighten up. Take a walk and get some fresh air!

now back the main discussion of this thread...

hydroelectricity ....

He (Sam Hinda) made reference to the Amelia Falls, which is one of six sites identified as a potential location in Guyana and which is well-known for its cascading waterways.

The Prime Minister said that it is hoped that by year-end ‘the ground will be broken’ for the development of the Amaila site, which is capable of providing about 140 megawatts of electricity for Guyana. and ...

Turtruba Hydropower project would place Guyana in a position to be an exporter of electricity to other countries ... hence a sound strategy to harness one of Guyana's natural renewable resources -- water/hydroelectric power ... for economic benefits.