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Guyana Govt, with some help from Caricom, will pay US $35,000/month for renting a 5 storey building from a PPP crony across the street. This incompetent and corrupt PPP Govt underestimated Caricom’s space requirements when they built the new Secretariat building.
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You meant Gy$35K, didn't you?
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Nope, $35, 000 US Dollatrs. This is a 5-story building concrete building. For Guy $35K, you can only get a small three bedroom wooden house or apartment in Gtown.
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Who owns the building?
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Gupta

You must be mistaken. Perhaps US$35,000 per annum but not per month. Where is the exact location of the Building? And who own it?

Recheck your facts. Am confident you are mistaken.
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Gupta

You must be mistaken. Perhaps US$35,000 per annum but not per month. Where is the exact location of the Building? And who own it?

Recheck your facts. Am confident you are mistaken.


he is mistaken,the figure is 30KU$/month.
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Caricom rents office space opposite ‘too small’ secretariat

– MP says reflects poor planning
Caricom has rented space in a five-storey building at Turkeyen to accommodate some of its staff, but MP David Patterson feels this reflects poor planning since the new secretariat was only constructed four years ago.

Patterson noted too that the Caricom Secretariat grounds had sufficient land to build additional accommodation, rather than pay high rental costs.

Head of the Presidential Secretariat Dr Roger Luncheon was asked on Thursday whether Guyana was paying for the rental of the building opposite the Caricom Secretariat at Turkeyen in keeping with its undertaking to provide accommodation for the Caricom headquarters. He told Stabroek News that since Guyana provided the building to house the secretariat, the staff and responsibilities of Caricom had increased, which had led Caricom to pay for additional accommodation to which Guyana was subscribing.

Apart from the staff and responsibilities increasing, Luncheon said member states were being called on to increase national subscriptions as well. Each state, he said, had to pay a minimum contribution each year to keep the secretariat running. When the budget was put together, the sum total was divided among the member states, he said, adding that Guyana was subscribing to the rental of the new building along with the others.

Asked about the rental of additional space, Communications advisor to the Secretary-General, Leonard Robertson, said that when the secretariat staff were relocated from downtown Georgetown to the new headquarters, a number of departments, such as the Pan Caribbean Partnership against HIV/AIDS and the Legal Drafting Facility were still housed in offices outside the building.

In addition, he said, “the assimilation of the Cariforum Secretariat into the Caricom Secretariat, the expansion of the secretariat staff to meet the obligations of 9th European Development Fund and the implementation of the CSME [Caricom Single Market and Economy], has [seen] an increase in staff which necessitated more office space.”
Robertson also confirmed that the Guyana government was not paying for the rental of the building opposite the secretariat, which was built in recent months by developer Cecil Rajana.

Patterson, a quantity surveyor by profession, told Stabroek News that sufficient accommodation in the secretariat building, constructed at a cost of in excess of $4 billion, and paid for by the Japanese and Guyana governments was an issue even before the building was handed over to Caricom.

According to Patterson, the building, which was constructed in 2004 and occupied in July 2005, never met its accommodation capacity.
“Who is to blame for this? Was it the Guyana Government or Caricom Secretariat? I don’t know,” he said, adding that the lack of adequate accommodation for staff, “showed a total lack of planning.”

He said renting another building four years after the secretariat was constructed showed there was not enough consultation between the government, the designers and the occupants; there was also no forward planning to meet future demands.

Asked to estimate the rental of the Rajana building, Patterson said based on his evaluation and that of some of his colleagues, he would put the rental at a minimum of US$30,000 a month.
He recalled that before the new secretariat building was handed over Caricom had commissioned an independent architect/evaluator to review the new building.
Following the evaluation, he said, an additional $159 million was spent to reallocate air-conditioning units and to squeeze in more office space to accommodate staff from the downtown Georgetown area where they were housed in several locations including the Bank of Guyana building which was the main office.

Patterson is of the view too, that the existing Caricom grounds had plenty of space for shared infrastructure. He questioned why additional accommodation was not built in the compound as an architect could have designed a structure, which would not destroy the aesthetics of the main building. (Miranda La Rose)
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Gupta

You must be mistaken. Perhaps US$35,000 per annum but not per month. Where is the exact location of the Building? And who own it?

Recheck your facts. Am confident you are mistaken.


he is mistaken,the figure is 30KU$/month.


US$30K /month or US$3K /month?
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
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Originally posted by BONUS:
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Gupta

You must be mistaken. Perhaps US$35,000 per annum but not per month. Where is the exact location of the Building? And who own it?

Recheck your facts. Am confident you are mistaken.


he is mistaken,the figure is 30KU$/month.


US$30K /month or US$3K /month?


Like you drink some PPP milk or what...30KU$
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What was the rent at the Bank Of Guyana location?
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Originally posted by Gupta:

Guyana Govt, with some help from Caricom, will pay US $35,000/month for renting a 5 storey building from a PPP crony across the street. This incompetent and corrupt PPP Govt underestimated Caricom’s space requirements when they built the new Secretariat building.

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Caricom rents office space opposite ‘too small’ secretariat

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Robertson also confirmed that the Guyana government was not paying for the rental of the building opposite the secretariat, which was built in recent months by developer Cecil Rajana.

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Note the difference for rental payment.
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The GOG is not paying so why are we concerned? How Caricom spends its money is Caricom's business.

And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite.
This thread is misleading.
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Originally posted by Gupta:
Guyana Govt, with some help from Caricom, will pay US $35,000/month for renting a 5 storey building from a PPP crony across the street. This incompetent and corrupt PPP Govt underestimated Caricom’s space requirements when they built the new Secretariat building.


Explain how the corruption and incompetence are related to this transaction.
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And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite


BB,I agree with you totally.On the other hand he can certainly avail his expertise to Jagdeo and the administration on matters of the EPA etc.
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BB,I agree with you totally.On the other hand he can certainly avail his expertise to Jagdeo and the administration on matters of the EPA etc.


I was told he would have been an excellent Foreign Affairs Min.
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I was told he would have been an excellent Foreign Affairs Min.


Very versed in all aspects of international trade/agreements,Lome etc.He once headed the department of international economic cooperation within the ministry of foreign affairs.
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It seems clear that underestimation of the space required at the new Caricom building was deliberate. Shortly after a 5 storey building pop up across the road.
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The GOG is not paying so why are we concerned? How Caricom spends its money is Caricom's business.

And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite.
This thread is misleading.
He filled in the canals by UG without permission.
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For the rental how much did thi structure cost and let us see a pix of this modern structure imagine 5 stories by Turkeyen the foundation probaly cause a fortune if not it would be settling over 5 years ah meaning sinking
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Originally posted by ICIP:
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
The GOG is not paying so why are we concerned? How Caricom spends its money is Caricom's business.

And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite.
This thread is misleading.
He filled in the canals by UG without permission.


What's your point? This was an issue years ago. How is it relevant?
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Checkout a picture at the beginning stage here

http://guyanaprovidencestadium.blogspot.com/
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quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
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Originally posted by ICIP:
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
The GOG is not paying so why are we concerned? How Caricom spends its money is Caricom's business.

And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite.
This thread is misleading.
He filled in the canals by UG without permission.


What's your point? This was an issue years ago. How is it relevant?


It is relevant. It goes to show the untouchable nature of some indoist under this racist PPP regime. Have they ever given any blackman any major contracts and concession in that country. Not Courtney Benn, name any other.
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Who are the black entrepreurs in Guyana looking for contracts?
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Who are the black entrepreurs in Guyana looking for contracts?


Too many. Come on Terry,you know your racist govt give shyt to black folks.
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Have they ever given any blackman any major contracts and concession in that country. Not Courtney Benn, name any other.


Bobby Smith to name one.