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Member Location: USA
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ST. PAUL, Minn. – John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin said Monday that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant, an announcement campaign aides said was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter's.
A statement released by the campaign said that Bristol Palin will keep her baby and marry the child's father. Bristol Palin's baby is due in late December. "Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents," Sarah and Todd Palin said in the brief statement. The disclosure of the pregnancy came on the opening day of the Republican National Convention, scaled back because of Hurricane Gustav, and three days after McCain named Palin as his running mate. The other news was likely to overshadow the disclosure. The first-term Alaska governor was in Minnesota preparing for her acceptance speech when the campaign issued the statement; her family was home in Alaska. "Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," they added. The father was identified in the statement as Levi, but the campaign said it was not disclosing his full name or age or how he and Bristol know each other, citing privacy. Sarah Palin's fifth child, a son named Trig, was born in April with Down syndrome. Internet bloggers have been suggesting that the child was actually born to Bristol Palin but that her mother, the 44-year-old Alaska governor, claimed to be the mother. Palin spokesman Bill McAllister emphatically denied those rumors, and McCain adviser Mark Salter said the campaign announced the daughter's pregnancy to rebut them. "Senator McCain's view is this is a private family matter. As parents, (the Palins) love their daughter unconditionally and are going to support their daughter," said McCain spokesman Steve Schmidt. "Life happens," he said. "An American family," added Salter. The advisers said Palin told them about the pregnancy during lengthy discussions about her background. At several points during the discussions, McCain's team warned Palin that the scrutiny into her private life would be intense and that there was nothing she could do to prepare for it. Advisers said Palin's daughter should be afforded privacy like the other candidates' children. Said Schmidt: "If people try to politicize this, the American people will be appalled." In Monroe, Mich., Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama condemned rumors involving the children of candidates and echoed the McCain campaign argument. Said Obama: "I think people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits." Obama adamantly denied anonymous claims that his campaign helped spread the rumors. "I am offended by that statement," Obama said. "Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I ever thought that there was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired." Prominent religious conservatives, many of whom have been lukewarm toward McCain's candidacy, predicted that Palin's daughter's pregnancy would not diminish conservative Christian enthusiasm for the vice presidential hopeful, a staunch abortion opponent. Focus on the Family founder James Dobson issued a statement commending the Palins for "for not just talking about their pro-life and pro-family values, but living them out even in the midst of trying circumstances." He added: "Being a Christian does not mean you're perfect. Nor does it mean your children are perfect. But it does mean there is forgiveness and restoration when we confess our imperfections to the Lord." Roberta Combs, president of the Christian Coalition of America called the pregnancy private. "It's a matter that should stay in the family and they have to work through it together. My prayers go out to them." Added Combs: "We're excited about the governor and think she's going to do well." Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University School of Law, said: "We're all sinners." "We all make mistakes. Certainly, the ideal is not to get pregnant out of wedlock. But she made the right decision after her mistake," he said. |
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Amber's GNI Gentleman Location: canada
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And we're off to a scandalous start.
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Cheyney's daughter is a lesbian, Carter's brother was an alcoholic, Johnson's brother was a felon' Lincoln's wife was a schizophrenic ... Those facts say nothing about their qualifications or the capacity to govern. I don't care for Palin myself but she she should be judged on her qualifications, not on whether her daughter is pregnant or a Nobel Prize winner.
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Knows the ropes Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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True that almost everyone has some baggage but for the ultra right wing in the party this must come as a blow because it files in the face of all that they preach. In many ways this is refelective of her ability to parent and it can be used against her i.e. if she can't govern her own household properly how will she assist in governing the country. However, Obama has shown great judgement by not making this an issue. This woman is seeming like the worst pick the more we hear about her. |
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I know Obama is saying that we should not speak of this but we hear constantly from the right wing that extra marital sex is evil and minorities especially needs to be educated on this fact. This lady is a flag bearer of that abstinence movement, the one that says if you teach abstinence you wont need to "encourage" the kids by instructing them on contraception. Is that not the reason why in the condoms are prohibited in government aid to HIV ridden third world societies? teach them abstinence! This is an example why they are wrong. I hope some 527 remind them about it. |
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Petal: I do take great umbrage to you referring to her like that. Keep it up and I will call her. She is, I will have you know, a lifelong member of the NRA...and she can shoot.  |
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U gotta admit..she handled it quite well. Of course a teen shotgun wedding is a different issue when it comes to rich people...I hope my blasted picknees don't tell me about Palin being a role model now.
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I think McCain got bushwhacked. I do not think he would have risked it had he known. |
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Junior Peeper Registered:: August 30, 2008
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He knew, he said she told him. If you want to know why he selected her, take a look at where his eyes are riveted when she gave her acceptance speech. His eyes never left her battie. Any how what difference does it make both parties are sumject to the powers that be ( CFR ) But what difference does it make to you; why not try a herbal tonic with some powdered zinc' try it, you might get lucky. |
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McCain claims he know. For all his jingoism, I think he is a man of ethics...and sometimes does stray from the republican line. I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Junior Peeper Registered:: August 30, 2008
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McCain dumped his first wife while she laid ill in a hospital bed. He then married his present wife. McCain at 72 still has roving eyes a characteristic D2 envies. |
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Executive Member Location: NY
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He can look all he wants; like you he would be hard pressed to do anything about it. |
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Junior Peeper Registered:: July 06, 2007
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Who really cares?
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Knows the ropes Member Location: India
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True, but people are elected on more than just technical qualification and material or intellectual accomplishments. However, the key question would come up whether McCain was aware of this during the interview with her. It was obvious that she was aware of this and did she share with him. I'm not sure how this will square with her conservative catholic position of abstinance. Anyway, that's for the public to decide. Personally i'm not in favor of the message and example being sent to young girls. |
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"Betting on a Palin withdrawal"
- An online prediction market weighs in on whether VP candidate Sarah Palin will be dropped from the Republican ticket. By Mina Kimes, reporter Last Updated: September 2, 2008: 5:16 PM EDT NEW YORK (Fortune) -- Now the Democrats aren't the only ones who can try to capitalize on the negative buzz growing around Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the prospective Republican VP candidate. Intrade, an online prediction market based in Dublin, created a contract Tuesday morning on the likelihood that John McCain will drop Palin as his running mate. After opening at a probability of just 3%, the odds on Palin being cut from the ticket climbed to 18% around 9 a.m. and have since settled at around 12%. Intrade is a place for betting enthusiasts to turn a small profit on everything from the latest auction of works by controversial British artist Damien Hirst to Britney Spears' chances of landing in rehab. Contracts on a possible future event are bought and sold by users of the site, like a stock on the NYSE. Chad Rigetti, Intrade's VP of Business Development, says traders on the site asked Intrade to create the newest market after stories about Palin, including her teenage daughter's pregnancy and her involvement in a group that did corporate fundraising for controversial Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, flooded the news. The pool has been open for less than twelve hours, but has already attracted more than 950 trades. Intrade estimates that about $2300 has been traded on the Palin withdrawal contract. Placing a Palin withdrawal at even 12% seems bullish; no presidential candidate has withdrawn his VP selection since Thomas Eagleton left Democratic candidate George McGovern's ticket in 1972. Intrade has demonstrated some success in predicting political choices (forecasting the selection of Biden), but also volatility: Palin's chances of landing the nomination vacillated wildly in the hours before McCain announced the pick. Rigetti points out that while some traders are putting Palin on the chopping block, they're still giving her 97% odds in a separate market for the VP nomination. He thinks that many traders are playing both markets, which means they believe a withdrawal won't come until later in the election season. Intrade monitors its traders' demographics, but it's too early to tell who's betting on a Palin pullout. Some of the naysayers could be Republicans: Rigetti says that, unlike polls, the election markets don't always represent political beliefs. "People have a real money incentive," he says. "They're betting with their head and not their heart." |
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If McCain thought Palin would help him to attract the women voters - well time to give that another thought.. Women are generally very sensitive to issues like 'teenage pregnancy'.
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it is too late for her to withdraw. Something truly monumental will have to happen (beyond her sparse resume of course)
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................................................ I agree. |
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Philly daily news carried an over the top story on her daughter's pregnancy.
This is what bothers me if it is true and not hapless Palin |
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Knows the ropes Member Location: India
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The Democrats are in a sensitive position and McCain probably calculated this. The just debunked their own (Hillary) now they have to be careful about debunking Sarah, lest they come across as somewhat sexist. Sarah and the Reps are ripping into Obama and leaving Biden alone. Game plan, if he falls for the bait, black man attacking white woman...again, what a lovely sight for the Reps eyeing all those undecided white males and females. The way it's going, Obama probably wished he had Hillary on the ticket to take her on. These Republican are wickedly smart people. |
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you should have a "disclaimer note" at the end of your post stating its your opinion. Since when having a pregnant teen is a fact that you cant govern? Or will indicate that you dont have the qualities to govern? At least every person including you on this forum had a relative that were married in the teen yrs. Was that an indication that we didnt have the ability to be a parent? Palin was a risk because she was not well know by most .... but now she is more of an asset than Biden. |
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Knows the ropes Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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What sort of nonsensical reasoning is this? First off, does everyone now have to put a disclaimer next to their posts stating it is their opinion. I think it is pretty much accepted that posts here are the opinion of the poster and not of someone else…it is very clear…moving on… Let’s not assume sweeping generalizations here. This woman is an advocate for abstinence in schools. Now you tell me what sort of example does she set when she preaches for abstinence and her teen daughter is pregnant out of wedlock? Is it do as I say and not as I do? You are confused...we are not discussing teenage marriage here we are discussing out of wedlock teenage pregnancy! Even Cindy McCain has said that she taught her children about these issues at home. How is Palin more of an asset? The only reason she is more of an asset is that if Obama or Biden says anything against her they will be viewed as misogynistic so she and the Republicans are now using this as a free pass to attack him and his qualifications without impunity. Did you know she originally supported funding the Bridge to nowhere? There must have been much discussion about Obama’s community organizer job prior to the speeches as it was mentioned by both her and Giuliani; they forgot to mention this was a job he had when he was very young. She's comparing herself now to Obama in his 20s. |
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