The technological advances of Iran can only be understood as a provocation to The West, which claims the right to decide who develops and who doesn't, who goes poor and who goes rich.

Under sanctions Iran has developed:
- Space Technology
- Nuclear Technology
- Advanced Weapons technology

The message to the developing world is: "challenge the west or live in the stone age", and this the West cannot accept.

Already trapped in Afghanistan and Iraq, two nations who were crippled by decades of war before the US invaded them, a war with a the real power Iran is, will be the ultimate challenge for the USA. The USA has never in history fought a war against a country who could defend itself.

As Obama has become the black version of George W. Bush, the likely path he is to take is war then the USA is doomed. The world will say yes, but will not help, because the idea in the mind of many world leaders is to push the USA into a position of weakness and then subjugate it.

Go USA!!

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Go USA!!

You don't seem to love the USA that much!

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Go USA!!

if it is OK for Israel then it must be ok for Iran...go fu some moo cut ass usa...go

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Go USA!!

if it is OK for Israel then it must be ok for Iran...go fu some moo cut ass usa...go

Go Israel!

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Go USA!!

if it is OK for Israel then it must be ok for Iran...go fu some moo cut ass usa...go

Go Israel!

go world war 3...go fullas

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Go USA!!

if it is OK for Israel then it must be ok for Iran...go fu some moo cut ass usa...go

Go Israel!

go world war 3...go fullas

Is whey yu does live again? Na tell me you is wan a them fullah who does bite the hand that feeds you.

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Go USA!!

if it is OK for Israel then it must be ok for Iran...go fu some moo cut ass usa...go

Go Israel!

go world war 3...go fullas

Is whey yu does live again? Na tell me you is wan a them fullah who does bite the hand that feeds you.

I man biting some dhall and roti rite bout now

Hey Blackbeard,
You can not distinguish the parasite from the flora.


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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Go USA!!

if it is OK for Israel then it must be ok for Iran...go fu some moo cut ass usa...go

Go Israel!

go world war 3...go fullas

Is whey yu does live again? Na tell me you is wan a them fullah who does bite the hand that feeds you.

I man biting some dhall and roti rite bout now

Can't beat that.

You hear Anand's son turning Dacta at Uni. Toronto. Lil Bhai did us proud.

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Go USA!!

if it is OK for Israel then it must be ok for Iran...go fu some moo cut ass usa...go

Go Israel!

go world war 3...go fullas

Is whey yu does live again? Na tell me you is wan a them fullah who does bite the hand that feeds you.

I man biting some dhall and roti rite bout now

Can't beat that.

You hear Anand's son turning Dacta at Uni. Toronto. Lil Bhai did us proud.

yu serious ?? good news.

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Originally posted by Lucas:
The technological advances of Iran can only be understood as a provocation to The West, which claims the right to decide who develops and who doesn't, who goes poor and who goes rich.

Under sanctions Iran has developed:
- Space Technology
- Nuclear Technology
- Advanced Weapons technology

The message to the developing world is: "challenge the west or live in the stone age", and this the West cannot accept.

Already trapped in Afghanistan and Iraq, two nations who were crippled by decades of war before the US invaded them, a war with a the real power Iran is, will be the ultimate challenge for the USA. The USA has never in history fought a war against a country who could defend itself.

As Obama has become the black version of George W. Bush, the likely path he is to take is war then the USA is doomed. The world will say yes, but will not help, because the idea in the mind of many world leaders is to push the USA into a position of weakness and then subjugate it.

Iran could not take out Saddam in years of trying. The US took a bit over a week. Iran has no native tech. All of it is pilfered. Show me an Iranian made computer or Operating system. The US, I am sure, has backdoors to everything they will use.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Lucas:
The technological advances of Iran can only be understood as a provocation to The West, which claims the right to decide who develops and who doesn't, who goes poor and who goes rich.

Under sanctions Iran has developed:
- Space Technology
- Nuclear Technology
- Advanced Weapons technology

The message to the developing world is: "challenge the west or live in the stone age", and this the West cannot accept.

Already trapped in Afghanistan and Iraq, two nations who were crippled by decades of war before the US invaded them, a war with a the real power Iran is, will be the ultimate challenge for the USA. The USA has never in history fought a war against a country who could defend itself.

As Obama has become the black version of George W. Bush, the likely path he is to take is war then the USA is doomed. The world will say yes, but will not help, because the idea in the mind of many world leaders is to push the USA into a position of weakness and then subjugate it.

Iran could not take out Saddam in years of trying. The US took a bit over a week. Iran has no native tech. All of it is pilfered. Show me an Iranian made computer or Operating system. The US, I am sure, has backdoors to everything they will use.

the us had a front door to Iraq too...but the back door waz closed...see over 70,000 come back unfit fu human society and dem roaming the streets begging fu lil food and shelter...this is the GREAT usa.

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Lucas:
The technological advances of Iran can only be understood as a provocation to The West, which claims the right to decide who develops and who doesn't, who goes poor and who goes rich.

Under sanctions Iran has developed:
- Space Technology
- Nuclear Technology
- Advanced Weapons technology

The message to the developing world is: "challenge the west or live in the stone age", and this the West cannot accept.

Already trapped in Afghanistan and Iraq, two nations who were crippled by decades of war before the US invaded them, a war with a the real power Iran is, will be the ultimate challenge for the USA. The USA has never in history fought a war against a country who could defend itself.

As Obama has become the black version of George W. Bush, the likely path he is to take is war then the USA is doomed. The world will say yes, but will not help, because the idea in the mind of many world leaders is to push the USA into a position of weakness and then subjugate it.

Iran could not take out Saddam in years of trying. The US took a bit over a week. Iran has no native tech. All of it is pilfered. Show me an Iranian made computer or Operating system. The US, I am sure, has backdoors to everything they will use.

the us had a front door to Iraq too...but the back door waz closed...see over 70,000 come back unfit fu human society and dem roaming the streets begging fu lil food and shelter...this is the GREAT usa.

Mikey, the veterans do need better attention to their psychological health but it is pure crap that they are all in the streets begging.

Further, the people going into the military are all from the lower rung of the society. Rich people do not join the military. These have a higher probability to be destitute to begin with.

The military is their source of income and once that is gone they are back to where they were with additional problems. The nation needs to see that they are better taken care of. Levy a tax on CEO bonuses and solve the problem would be my advice.

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Mikey, the veterans do need better attention to their psychological health but it is pure crap that they are all in the streets begging.

Further, the people going into the military are all from the lower rung of the society. Rich people do not join the military. These have a hither probability to be destitute to begin with. The military was their source of income and once that is gone they are back to where they were with additional problems. The nation needs to see that they are better taken care of. Levy a tax on CEO bonuses and solve the problem would be my advice.

D2, where do you get your information from? Is it indeed a fact that 'the people going into the military are all from the lower rung of society?' If you were to say that about the US minorities then perhaps you would have been somewhat more accurate. However the US militray enlistment has always been a badge of honor for the patriotic citizens. West Point is one of the most elite military schools, and only the best of the best gets in there. Take a look and see who gets int here. If you do some work you will find that many of the congressmen and senators in the US do have military backgrounds. The military boasts a sound educational system, and there is vocational training for the recruits. If anything their income levels are higher when they come out of the military because they are better equipped than when they went in.

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D2 Wrote:

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Mikey, the veterans do need better attention to their psychological health but it is pure crap that they are all in the streets begging.

Further, the people going into the military are all from the lower rung of the society. Rich people do not join the military. These have a hither probability to be destitute to begin with. The military was their source of income and once that is gone they are back to where they were with additional problems. The nation needs to see that they are better taken care of. Levy a tax on CEO bonuses and solve the problem would be my advice.

D2, where do you get your information from? Is it indeed a fact that 'the people going into the military are all from the lower rung of society?' If you were to say that about the US minorities then perhaps you would have been somewhat more accurate. However the US militray enlistment has always been a badge of honor for the patriotic citizens. West Point is one of the most elite military schools, and only the best of the best gets in there. Take a look and see who gets int here. If you do some work you will find that many of the congressmen and senators in the US do have military backgrounds. The military boasts a sound educational system, and there is vocational training for the recruits. If anything their income levels are higher when they come out of the military because they are better equipped than when they went in.

It has always been the case. This fact was made clear during the debates to the war and was the reason there was much ado about the children of congress people who go to war. Not one member of the Bush cabinet who sent young men to die ever saw a battle field. They all took exemptions or cushy duty stateside to avoid the draft/

West Point and the Citadel etc are indeed elite schools but that does not mean the stats with regard to who make up the bulk of the military force are from the very bottom of the society.

Soldiers do not get jobs coming out of the military. There are not many jobs for a gunner, sniper, explosive expert or even heavy equipment repair person. They do have the opportunity to parlay that experience at discipline in law enforcement etc or federal jobs. They can move ahead if they take advantage of the opportunity to go to school. Yes, the military offer many stepping stones to success for the substratum of the society to boot strap themselves.

The problem is that after you have spent some years of your life shooting at black-haired dark skinned-folks in other countries how can you adapt to the school life of sitting 8 hours a day to read books, do intellectual work and write your papers?

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Originally posted by Sona:
If you do some work you will find that many of the congressmen and senators in the US do have military backgrounds.in.

how many since teh draft ended?

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Originally posted by Lucas:
The problem is that after you have spent some years of your life shooting at black-haired dark skinned-folks in other countries how can you adapt to the school life of sitting 8 hours a day to read books, do intellectual work and write your papers?

Every great culture rose on the backs of others. From the persians, the mongols, the greeks the romans, the ottomans; everyone rose by conquest and it is clear they had no qualms building magnificant efifices and great cultures.

The world is trying to evolve systems that are integrative and inclusive. The soviet states disintegrated but with the exception of a few, all have forged independent alliances despite asserting new identities. Integration is however is in competition with isolationist creed that seeks to be left alone. That creed sees integration ( globalism) as one-sided ( as it is in instances).

If only being left alone meant truly being alone and non affective to others. The sudan, Ethiopian, Somalis were left alone and they turned into predation by warring clans. N. Korea built a cult of personality on the fear of invasion and now threaten the world with nuclear conflagration. Non state actors who were left alone include Al Queda and they felt that the have a holy cause in opposing attempts at integration since in their opinion it is contaminating.

Human relations are never easy and labeling one as causative of all ills is not only wrong but myopic. We do not see or interact with good an evil in stark black and white. If you have that all encompassing gift then kudos to you. Unfortunately it would be applicable only in the solipsism of your own making.

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Originally posted by Lucas:
The problem is that after you have spent some years of your life shooting at black-haired dark skinned-folks in other countries how can you adapt to the school life of sitting 8 hours a day to read books, do intellectual work and write your papers?

It’s called retribution, you want to invade sovereign nations based on false theories and personal vendetta ...kill thousands of innocent people and expect all to be glowing? Karma is a bytch.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by SuperMike:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Lucas:
The technological advances of Iran can only be understood as a provocation to The West, which claims the right to decide who develops and who doesn't, who goes poor and who goes rich.

Under sanctions Iran has developed:
- Space Technology
- Nuclear Technology
- Advanced Weapons technology

The message to the developing world is: "challenge the west or live in the stone age", and this the West cannot accept.

Already trapped in Afghanistan and Iraq, two nations who were crippled by decades of war before the US invaded them, a war with a the real power Iran is, will be the ultimate challenge for the USA. The USA has never in history fought a war against a country who could defend itself.

As Obama has become the black version of George W. Bush, the likely path he is to take is war then the USA is doomed. The world will say yes, but will not help, because the idea in the mind of many world leaders is to push the USA into a position of weakness and then subjugate it.

Iran could not take out Saddam in years of trying. The US took a bit over a week. Iran has no native tech. All of it is pilfered. Show me an Iranian made computer or Operating system. The US, I am sure, has backdoors to everything they will use.

the us had a front door to Iraq too...but the back door waz closed...see over 70,000 come back unfit fu human society and dem roaming the streets begging fu lil food and shelter...this is the GREAT usa.

Mikey, the veterans do need better attention to their psychological health but it is pure crap that they are all in the streets begging.

Further, the people going into the military are all from the lower rung of the society. Rich people do not join the military. These have a higher probability to be destitute to begin with.

The military is their source of income and once that is gone they are back to where they were with additional problems. The nation needs to see that they are better taken care of. Levy a tax on CEO bonuses and solve the problem would be my advice.

I say let them be..war is kind.