Guyana.org    Guyana News and Information Discussion Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Political Discussions    Guyana Govt to pay a PPP crony US $35,000/month rent

Moderators: Admin
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
  Login/Join 
Junior Peeper
Registered:: April 01, 1999
Posts: 856
Posted   Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Guyana Govt, with some help from Caricom, will pay US $35,000/month for renting a 5 storey building from a PPP crony across the street. This incompetent and corrupt PPP Govt underestimated Caricom’s space requirements when they built the new Secretariat building.
Member
Registered:: March 03, 2003
Posts: 3873
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
You meant Gy$35K, didn't you?
Junior Peeper
Registered:: April 01, 1999
Posts: 856
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Nope, $35, 000 US Dollatrs. This is a 5-story building concrete building. For Guy $35K, you can only get a small three bedroom wooden house or apartment in Gtown.
Member
Location: Miami, FL, USA/Georgetown, Guyana
Registered:: February 24, 1999
Posts: 2621
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Who owns the building?
Knows the ropes Member
Registered:: September 05, 2006
Posts: 5095
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Gupta

You must be mistaken. Perhaps US$35,000 per annum but not per month. Where is the exact location of the Building? And who own it?

Recheck your facts. Am confident you are mistaken.
Elite Member
Registered:: February 27, 1999
Posts: 27884
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Gupta

You must be mistaken. Perhaps US$35,000 per annum but not per month. Where is the exact location of the Building? And who own it?

Recheck your facts. Am confident you are mistaken.


he is mistaken,the figure is 30KU$/month.
Elite Member
Registered:: February 27, 1999
Posts: 27884
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Caricom rents office space opposite ‘too small’ secretariat

– MP says reflects poor planning
Caricom has rented space in a five-storey building at Turkeyen to accommodate some of its staff, but MP David Patterson feels this reflects poor planning since the new secretariat was only constructed four years ago.

Patterson noted too that the Caricom Secretariat grounds had sufficient land to build additional accommodation, rather than pay high rental costs.

Head of the Presidential Secretariat Dr Roger Luncheon was asked on Thursday whether Guyana was paying for the rental of the building opposite the Caricom Secretariat at Turkeyen in keeping with its undertaking to provide accommodation for the Caricom headquarters. He told Stabroek News that since Guyana provided the building to house the secretariat, the staff and responsibilities of Caricom had increased, which had led Caricom to pay for additional accommodation to which Guyana was subscribing.

Apart from the staff and responsibilities increasing, Luncheon said member states were being called on to increase national subscriptions as well. Each state, he said, had to pay a minimum contribution each year to keep the secretariat running. When the budget was put together, the sum total was divided among the member states, he said, adding that Guyana was subscribing to the rental of the new building along with the others.

Asked about the rental of additional space, Communications advisor to the Secretary-General, Leonard Robertson, said that when the secretariat staff were relocated from downtown Georgetown to the new headquarters, a number of departments, such as the Pan Caribbean Partnership against HIV/AIDS and the Legal Drafting Facility were still housed in offices outside the building.

In addition, he said, “the assimilation of the Cariforum Secretariat into the Caricom Secretariat, the expansion of the secretariat staff to meet the obligations of 9th European Development Fund and the implementation of the CSME [Caricom Single Market and Economy], has [seen] an increase in staff which necessitated more office space.”
Robertson also confirmed that the Guyana government was not paying for the rental of the building opposite the secretariat, which was built in recent months by developer Cecil Rajana.

Patterson, a quantity surveyor by profession, told Stabroek News that sufficient accommodation in the secretariat building, constructed at a cost of in excess of $4 billion, and paid for by the Japanese and Guyana governments was an issue even before the building was handed over to Caricom.

According to Patterson, the building, which was constructed in 2004 and occupied in July 2005, never met its accommodation capacity.
“Who is to blame for this? Was it the Guyana Government or Caricom Secretariat? I don’t know,” he said, adding that the lack of adequate accommodation for staff, “showed a total lack of planning.”

He said renting another building four years after the secretariat was constructed showed there was not enough consultation between the government, the designers and the occupants; there was also no forward planning to meet future demands.

Asked to estimate the rental of the Rajana building, Patterson said based on his evaluation and that of some of his colleagues, he would put the rental at a minimum of US$30,000 a month.
He recalled that before the new secretariat building was handed over Caricom had commissioned an independent architect/evaluator to review the new building.
Following the evaluation, he said, an additional $159 million was spent to reallocate air-conditioning units and to squeeze in more office space to accommodate staff from the downtown Georgetown area where they were housed in several locations including the Bank of Guyana building which was the main office.

Patterson is of the view too, that the existing Caricom grounds had plenty of space for shared infrastructure. He questioned why additional accommodation was not built in the compound as an architect could have designed a structure, which would not destroy the aesthetics of the main building. (Miranda La Rose)
Knows the ropes Member
Registered:: September 05, 2006
Posts: 5095
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by BONUS:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Gupta

You must be mistaken. Perhaps US$35,000 per annum but not per month. Where is the exact location of the Building? And who own it?

Recheck your facts. Am confident you are mistaken.


he is mistaken,the figure is 30KU$/month.


US$30K /month or US$3K /month?
Elite Member
Registered:: February 27, 1999
Posts: 27884
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
quote:
Originally posted by BONUS:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
Gupta

You must be mistaken. Perhaps US$35,000 per annum but not per month. Where is the exact location of the Building? And who own it?

Recheck your facts. Am confident you are mistaken.


he is mistaken,the figure is 30KU$/month.


US$30K /month or US$3K /month?


Like you drink some PPP milk or what...30KU$
Elite Member
Location: Wherever I may be.
Registered:: October 15, 1999
Posts: 24626
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
What was the rent at the Bank Of Guyana location?
Indiana Jones
Location: Alberta, Canada
Registered:: May 02, 2007
Posts: 7231
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by Gupta:

Guyana Govt, with some help from Caricom, will pay US $35,000/month for renting a 5 storey building from a PPP crony across the street. This incompetent and corrupt PPP Govt underestimated Caricom’s space requirements when they built the new Secretariat building.

quote:

Caricom rents office space opposite ‘too small’ secretariat

.....

Robertson also confirmed that the Guyana government was not paying for the rental of the building opposite the secretariat, which was built in recent months by developer Cecil Rajana.

Indiana Jones
Location: Alberta, Canada
Registered:: May 02, 2007
Posts: 7231
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Note the difference for rental payment.
Knows the ropes Member
Registered:: September 05, 2006
Posts: 5095
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
The GOG is not paying so why are we concerned? How Caricom spends its money is Caricom's business.

And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite.
This thread is misleading.
Elite Member
Location: Brampton,ontario,Cda
Registered:: June 28, 2002
Posts: 29751
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by Gupta:
Guyana Govt, with some help from Caricom, will pay US $35,000/month for renting a 5 storey building from a PPP crony across the street. This incompetent and corrupt PPP Govt underestimated Caricom’s space requirements when they built the new Secretariat building.


Explain how the corruption and incompetence are related to this transaction.
Member
Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
Posts: 1927
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite


BB,I agree with you totally.On the other hand he can certainly avail his expertise to Jagdeo and the administration on matters of the EPA etc.
Knows the ropes Member
Registered:: April 25, 2004
Posts: 6724
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by Ireton:
BB,I agree with you totally.On the other hand he can certainly avail his expertise to Jagdeo and the administration on matters of the EPA etc.


I was told he would have been an excellent Foreign Affairs Min.
Member
Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
Posts: 1927
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
I was told he would have been an excellent Foreign Affairs Min.


Very versed in all aspects of international trade/agreements,Lome etc.He once headed the department of international economic cooperation within the ministry of foreign affairs.
Junior Peeper
Registered:: April 01, 1999
Posts: 856
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
It seems clear that underestimation of the space required at the new Caricom building was deliberate. Shortly after a 5 storey building pop up across the road.
Member
Registered:: March 21, 2007
Posts: 2379
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
The GOG is not paying so why are we concerned? How Caricom spends its money is Caricom's business.

And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite.
This thread is misleading.
He filled in the canals by UG without permission.
Junior Peeper
Location: n carolina usa
Registered:: June 19, 2003
Posts: 653
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
For the rental how much did thi structure cost and let us see a pix of this modern structure imagine 5 stories by Turkeyen the foundation probaly cause a fortune if not it would be settling over 5 years ah meaning sinking
Knows the ropes Member
Registered:: September 05, 2006
Posts: 5095
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by ICIP:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
The GOG is not paying so why are we concerned? How Caricom spends its money is Caricom's business.

And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite.
This thread is misleading.
He filled in the canals by UG without permission.


What's your point? This was an issue years ago. How is it relevant?
Junior Peeper
Registered:: April 01, 1999
Posts: 856
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Checkout a picture at the beginning stage here

http://guyanaprovidencestadium.blogspot.com/
Elite Member
Registered:: February 27, 1999
Posts: 27884
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
quote:
Originally posted by ICIP:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
The GOG is not paying so why are we concerned? How Caricom spends its money is Caricom's business.

And Dr. Cecil Rajana is not a PPPite.
This thread is misleading.
He filled in the canals by UG without permission.


What's your point? This was an issue years ago. How is it relevant?


It is relevant. It goes to show the untouchable nature of some indoist under this racist PPP regime. Have they ever given any blackman any major contracts and concession in that country. Not Courtney Benn, name any other.
Elite Member
Location: Homeless in New York, Lil ABC dropout!
Registered:: March 22, 1999
Posts: 24203
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Who are the black entrepreurs in Guyana looking for contracts?
Elite Member
Registered:: February 27, 1999
Posts: 27884
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by Terry Ishmael:
Who are the black entrepreurs in Guyana looking for contracts?


Too many. Come on Terry,you know your racist govt give shyt to black folks.
Knows the ropes Member
Registered:: April 25, 2004
Posts: 6724
Posted