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Elite Member Location: home
Registered:: March 22, 2001
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when you ask a kid if he knows Burnham and Jagan and the kid replies..."Who?"
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Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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And Jagdeo?  |
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Elite Member Location: Homeless in New York, Lil ABC dropout!
Registered:: March 22, 1999
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the saviour?
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Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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Elite Member Location: home
Registered:: March 22, 2001
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nah...Burnham and Jagan are the key players...even though they dead |
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Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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You mentioning those two names together conjure up thoughts of racial separation; even with race out of the picture Guyana has a far way to go on other social and economic issues.
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Junior Member Registered:: October 17, 2006
Posts: 2852
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Burnham and Jagan enjoyed an excellent personal relationship. Burnham was Jagan's son god father. All the race nonsense is conjured up by idiotic Guyanese! |
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Junior Member Registered:: July 02, 2007
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Anyone of you ever got into trouble for drawing spectacles on Burnham's picture on your exercise books??
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Member Registered:: October 04, 2006
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eh em, |
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Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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Everyone knows they had a personal relationship; whether Joey is his godson or not is questionable and is beside the point. Even if you think the racial divide is nonsense, it does not negate the fact that a certain perception exists. |
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Junior Member Registered:: October 17, 2006
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It is called divide and conquer and the headquarters is Babu John! |
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Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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The British were the experts at this and they used Burnham quite adeptly to create and maintain the racial divide.
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Junior Member Location: Richmond Hill, New York,USA
Registered:: July 02, 2003
Posts: 3770
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Initially the split was an opportunistic one....Burnham craved power and the British knew this so they encouraged him to break away from the PPP....this move by Burnham caused a division in the pro-independence movement also because the PPP at that point in history was organising the Guyanese people for independence......only later did racism entered as the two leaders tried to strenghten their positions... BTW many might not be aware that Burnham opposed independence for Guyana between 1957-1964....his slogan was very anti patriotic .... " No independence under the PPP "..... |
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His Royal Highness Location: The Prince of Little Guyana
Registered:: September 06, 2005
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Come to think, we would have been better off under the British rule considering our past and present political status.
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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Sorry Petal Burnham didnt create the ethnic divide. I note your usual attempt to pretend as if only Burnham in particular and AfroGuyanese in general were to blame. Sure he exploited the divide but the blame was equally on Cheddi in particular and IndoGuyanese in general. The departure of Burnham only resulted in the departure of virtually all AfroGuyanese because even those who didnt trust Burnham (Like Eusi Kwayana) saw no place in that party for blacks after Burnham left. So why did these blacks who didnt trust Burnham feel alienated by the PPP? In any case divide and rule began when the Dutch paid the Amerindians to catch escaped blacks. They feared the type of alliance that developed in Suriname where the Maroons formed alliances with the Amerindians there. It continued when the British brought in indentures, the largest of which were Indians, to undermine the efforts of the exslaves. And to make sure it stuck they also used Africans (scab workers and police men) to undermine the indentures when they too struggled to better their conditions. All Burnham (and Cheddi) did was to exploit ethnic distrust that already existed. |
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Junior Member Registered:: April 04, 2008
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Prince, Are you suggesting starting a movement for a national referendum to consider bringing back the colonialists? Count me in! Hey, have you not read my post that noted Janet Jagan accompanied her husband, Cheddi, to help run the British colonialists out of Guyana so they could then set up a communist government and rule Guyanese according to their vision? Well, I said before that the colonialists left in 1966. Mrs. Jagan is still in Guyana trying to set up a communist government to rule Guyana. And Guyanese? They ended up running from Guyana to the countries run by the ex-colonialists and their allies. Guyana and Guyanese are not better off under local leadership. But many Guyanese are better off living under the leadership of their ex-colonial masters. In 2011, put your 'X' next to the Union Jack (British), the Maple Leaf (Canada), and the Stars and Stripes (USA). FuhgetaboutDACUPandDAPALMTREE. |
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Junior Member Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
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Churchill,did his position on independence change prior to 1964? |
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Junior Member Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
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Yeah,were they doing such a great job for all Guyanese or Bookers and their interest? |
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Junior Member Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
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Communicator, please tell me you are kidding ? |
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Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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Sidney King at the time said Blacks did not want to be governed by an Indian. Did he feel alienated by the party or was he simply following his kith and kin? Tell me who were these other Blacks who left the party and tell me who were the remaining party members of the PPP? I do not wish to indulge in further discussion with you simply because you have a talent for twisting posts to suit your perceived racial biases. |
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Member Registered:: April 25, 2004
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Exactly! What was given back to the country? After all the years of pillaging our resources, what did we get in return? Not even the foundation for a proper system of our own to ensure governance. However, this all went well with the British theories that natives did not have the ability to self-govern. |
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Junior Member Registered:: April 04, 2008
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Ireton, I have reached the point where I would welcome back the colonialists in Guyana. SERIOUSLY! I am sure there are many Third Worlders who look at their countires under local political leaders and wonder: WTF!!!! What went wrong with our leaders' vision of doing better than the much villfied colonialists? Back in the sixties and seventies, Guyana had a population of 750,000. Thorty to 40 years later, Guyana still has a population of 750,000. Did Guyanese not procreate in that period? Or did people just die out as fast as babies were born? I'll tell you what happened. Over 600,000 Guyanese are living overseas. The bulk are in America, Canada and Britain. The rest are scattered throughout the Caribbean and South America. Guyana's present government has been living off of LOANS and GRANTS from the same colonialists its party's founders helped chase out of Guyana. Guyana's economy is largely dependent on REMITTANCES from Guyanese living in America, Canada, and Britain. In short, the white people whom we chased are doing a better job than the governments we have had under the PNC and PPP by helping keep Guyana afloat. Why not let the white people run the freaking country and help us all live a better life? It pains me to read articles by Janet Jagan, a white American, who went to Guyana to chase out the white colonialists, and now she is the matriarch of the ruling party and the country is stagnant. What good is the blood-sucking interloper? |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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You can ask for this if you want and when most Guyanese say bring back the British. The British will say their only Cariubbean colonies are the Cayman Islands, Turk & Caicos, British Virgin Islands, Anguilla and Montserrat. Even though the latter has had its volcano tragedy these are all relatively problem free places. Guyana (and Jamaica) should note their tragic state and ask who would want to have to contend with that. |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
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Sydney King made his statement AFTER he sasw the PPP become Indian dominated. FACT. He didnt leave with Burnham. He left AFTER. OK you can continue to blame AfroGuyanese as being 100% responsible for our ethnic tensions if that is what you wish. You can then call any who will tell you that Indians were also responsbile as racist if you wish. |
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Elite Member Location: ny
Registered:: July 12, 2002
Posts: 21919
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With the exception of Guyana and possibly Jamaica the "natives" havent done a bad job. The Caribbean ranks very well using most socio economic indicators, certainly considering the over population and resource (natural and human) of most of these islands. |
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Junior Member Registered:: September 05, 2006
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