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Indiana Jones Location: Alberta, Canada
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xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Editorial reprinted from yesterday’s Jamaica Observer) We are intensely supportive of the concept of and necessity for Caribbean integration. But it does not stop us from facing bald reality. Mr John Keynes, it was, who pointed to an eternal truth, that every statesman (a euphemism for politician) was unwittingly the “slave of some defunct economistâ€. This is particularly the case when the politician has an intellectual inferiority complex but yearns for acceptance by being a recognised disciple of known intellectuals whose ideas they repeat, even when they are of little or no relevance to the current policy dilemma. In the Caribbean, President Bharrat Jagdeo of Guyana comes to mind. In this regard, he is maintaining a Guyanese tradition. Cheddi Jagan was an apostle of the Stalinist perversion of Marxism, which passed as the Soviet model. President Forbes Burnham, the Caribbean’s Robert Mugabe, was an unrepentant dictator practising a brand of fascism called Co-operative Socialism. Burnham was known allover the world as a Villan, Blackpeople knew he was a No good THIEF...... |
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Knows the ropes Member Registered:: February 10, 2006
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Pop goes the weasel.  |
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Executive Member Location: Long Island
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WELL SAID !!! |
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Member Registered:: January 17, 2003
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They should take you to Hope Estate and put you to weed then beat you with a wild cane if you make noise for your small hamper.
You would then know what is real hard core communist. |
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Elite Member Location: ny
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True because Hoyte's liberalization of the Guyana economy prevented them from implementing a Cuban style system. |
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Elite Member Location: ny
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Burnham's son. I feel for you. So embarrassed by the depths that your Daddy dragged Guyana down to that you live in a world of denial. Check the stats. Guyana was reduced to Haiti. And we got there without a civil war. No other nation had ever done this before. |
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Member Registered:: January 17, 2003
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Hoyte economic recovery program brought severe hardship on the Guyanese people that is why they voted him out. After seven years with Hoyte as President Guyana remained at 149 on the UN ranking with Haiti AT 150. There was no development. |
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Elite Member Location: ny
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Guyana enjoyed rapid growth between 1991 and 1993 this credited to Hoyte. BTW Guyana still lies at the bottom in its rankings compared to the rest of the English speaking Caribbean. Why after 16 years of PPP (mis)rule. |
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Executive Member Location: Long Island
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There was just not enough time for Hoyte's plan to be implemented.
Democractic elections were held and the rest is history. |
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Member Registered:: January 17, 2003
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The 200 million in the treasury came from divestment of the state corporation.
Rice,Sugar,Bauxite recorded the lowest production during the Hoyte regime. |
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Junior Peeper Registered:: February 24, 2008
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The study was co-authored by someone else in Richmond Hill.I cannot remember his name (age catching up with me). Yes Tara was a supporter of the PNC so was Kawall Totoram. I knew Totoram from UG. He asked me to vote for him in the student Assoc. elections against Navin Chandrapaul the PPP candidate. Guess who was the PNC candidate? I was very surprised to see Totoram close to Jagdeo ! Yes and it is the same Totoram of the Global Consulting Group in the law books scandal. |
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Elite Member Location: ny
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So why were there high levels of growth from 1991 to 1994 attributed to Hoyte's economic reforms? Why was there stagnation from 1998 to 2005. Why has the growth in 2006 and 2007 pale in contrast to growth in the early 90s? Note 2006 reflected a recovery from the floods in the prior year and 2007 reflect CWC induced construction activity. Why such mediocrity at a time when commodity producers are experiencing high growth rates? |
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Member Registered:: January 17, 2003
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The growth during Hoyte regime brought severe hardship on the poor people. Prices tripled.
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Elite Member Location: ny
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Given the large numbers of Guyanese living in Antigua and even Jagdeo, in acknowldging this, begged the Antiguans to take care of these Guyanese as he couldnt provide decent living standards in Guyana, clearly the PPP has done no better. Note that 16 years ago Antiguans were fleeing to places like St Thomas, but now no longer do, so lots can happen in 16 years. Isnt it a shame that after 16 years of PPP rule Guyanese have to flee to a tiny island with no resources other than sandy beaches, rocky soils and dry weather? |
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Member Registered:: January 17, 2003
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The Guyanese community in Antigua are predominant blacks.They don't have ambition if the leave Guyana with an abundance of resources and go to a tiny island with no resorces.
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Junior Peeper Registered:: July 06, 2007
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Ireton, You are absolutely correct. As the saying goes,"hanging your mouth where the soup drops". It must also be noted that many in the RH community were supportive of the PNC and now for opportunistic reasons they are now PPP supporters. Kawall Totaram, Tony Yassin, Ray Raffik, Imam Zakir, Raj Singh {the ACG president}and many others. That is why when these people speak you take it with a grain of salt. It is true that many Guyanese {Indo and Afro} had to have a PNC party card to keep their jobs. I can understand this, they had to feed their families. However, this is not the reason for the names mentioned. Ireton, you seem to have a lot of inside info. You must be someone who had connections. I may know you, were you in East Germany in 1973 and stayed at the Lepzig hotel? If you were, then I have an idea who you are. |
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Junior Peeper Registered:: July 06, 2007
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Chief, After Hoyte rigged the worst elections in Guyana's history, the Americans and the international community put pressure on him to hold free and fair elections. So he did not hold free elections on his own. |
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Member Location: New York
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Stalin, I am not that old. I visited that part of Germany after the wall fell. In 1973 I was 7 yrs old and living in Linden Guyana. Let us just say that some of my uncles and family members worked in Guyana at one time for the then GOG and at UG, others were very strong Rodney supporters so there were always healthy to have those debates in our homes in and out of Guyana. It would shock you to know how some of the technocrats felt about the PNC rule,yet the never raised a voice in public.Now that is the background from which I came from and interacted with many across the political divide.These debates still take place to this day in parts of south Florida and Maryland. |
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Member Location: New York
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We refer to those types as PIPs,party in power supporters.Again, I challenge Tara Singh and his supporters to deny that fact.I might even be tempted to drop even more about that vile episode in our dark history. |
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Amber's GNI Gentleman Location: canada
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Stalin, you are quite correct. There a lot of x-PNC supporters in Richmond Hill, hanging their mouths. These are dangerous people.
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Junior Peeper Registered:: July 06, 2007
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Ireton, Thanks for the information. I hope to meet you one day. It is healthy to have political discussion. |
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Member Location: New York
Registered:: February 04, 2008
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]Ireton,
Thanks for the information. I hope to meet you one day. It is healthy to have political discussion. Despite its ills, Guyana is still a special place for me and hopefully we can all play a small part in shaping a new course.The political discussions are always good. I think we must be be able to talk about our history in a frank and open manner.At least another generation has a chance to get it right. |
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Indiana Jones Location: Alberta, Canada
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Again, we share similar views. Indeed, collectively, we all can assist, especially those of us who are abroad. 'Evening Ireton.  |