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Originally posted by Benford:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
You stated – "They view him as a dimwit desperate to solicit money for an ailing drug infested third world nation." -- with reference to Jagdeo.

You have yet to show references/proof that that Jagdeo is viewed by the developed nations’ leaders as you described him.

Your additional explanation to justify your misguided statement continues to shows that the source for such description originates from the depth of your warped mind.


Jagdeo is so insignificant that he does not even merit mention by officials of the developed world. The source of my statement is from extrapulation. Jagdeo + Guyana + relation with Roger Khan = corrupt leader of drug infested, poor, desperate third world nation.



So insignificant that he possess your thoughts and psyche. I guess you are even of lesser significance.
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Originally posted by Benford:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

You stated – "They view him as a dimwit desperate to solicit money for an ailing drug infested third world nation." -- with reference to Jagdeo.

You have yet to show references/proof that that Jagdeo is viewed by the developed nations’ leaders as you described him.

Your additional explanation to justify your misguided statement continues to shows that the source for such description originates from the depth of your warped mind.

Jagdeo is so insignificant that he does not even merit mention by officials of the developed world. The source of my statement is from extrapulation. Jagdeo + Guyana + relation with Roger Khan = corrupt leader of drug infested, poor, desperate third world nation.

Interpretation/extrapolation from the figment of one's hyperactive imagination, is hardly a credible source.
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Originally posted by Benford:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by Benford:

The option of have an exploitable forest is more important than giving it away for nothing. You don't sell your birth right down the drain just because you may not be exercising it at the moment. Guyana is a nation of potential, let us not make it impotent because the ppp have failed to exploit the land responsibly.

Guyana indeed has tremendous potential, especially with its natural resources.

In exercising the various options, Jagdeo is providing stewardship to negotiate compensation as part of the Forest Management Strategy.

Guyanese would have the opportunity to participate in the proposed consultation meetings to express their views on this matter.

If you do reside in Guyana, you would have ample opportunities, through the proposed consultation process, to garner public and international media attention to voice your views, opinions and proposals to show that your approach to managing Guyana’s rainforests are superior to that of Jagdeo.


My arguments are this simple, guyana's rain forest holds immesurable that should not be sold away to foreiners for pittance to ensure the production of oxygen. Jagdeo is a dead beat president who will be out of power in a few years, let us not allow him to broker deals that will preclude the nation from exploiting its natural resources for generations to come.

You continue to display your inability to understand the nature of global warming and the interrelationship of the rainforests.

Regarding the development of Guyana's interior to accommodate varied activities, preservation of certain areas of the rainforests are desirable.

Jagdeo is providing stewardship to negotiate compensation as part of the Forest Management Strategy. He is pursuing one of the preferred options -- compensation for the preservation of the rainforests.
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Any compensation needs to be kept out of the hands of Guyana's political operatives. Instead it should be in the form of some kind of business development.
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Hopefully, the financial compensations would be manages in a transparent manner.
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Originally posted by Chief:
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Jagdeo to hold
hands with Gordon Brown in rainforest

I do not know but everytime I saw the correct heading for some strange reason the above is comming to my mind. Big Grin

Perhaps, due to latent urges/traits/qualities in the deep subconscious mind. dunno
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
Do you agree, then with Bharrat Jagdeo's efforts to exact reasonable compensation from the industralized countries regarding the benefits of Guyana's reinforests?


I can see it now. Americans have to sacrifice help in receiving healthcare, retirement benefits, college aid, etc so that Guyana can receive compensation.

That will go over pretty well.


If Jagdeo is expecting compensation from govts who will wait in vain.
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
Hopefully, the financial compensations would be manages in a transparent manner.


Please ask your neighbor whether they want their tax dollars to be used to compensate Guyana. Dont ask if they are a tree hugger. Think of your average self absorbed North American.
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Jagdeo is DE MAN. Guyana formidable and Majestic president. He is absolutele right, if you want us to stop clearing our Forest to earn Foreing Exchange, then SHOW US THE MONEY!!!
If not, we gat to do what we gat to do. Mighty Countries, the choice is yours. I will not be wait forever. Call me on my HOT Line when you are ready. Bye.
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Originally posted by Nehru:
Jagdeo is DE MAN. Guyana formidable and Majestic president. He is absolutele right, if you want us to stop clearing our Forest to earn Foreing Exchange, then SHOW US THE MONEY!!!
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The USA, Canada and the EU will just suck their teeth and attend to the numerous problem sthat THEIR OWN citizens face.

In this day and age the notion of any country compensating another indefinitely without some sort of instant tangible return is a fantasy and exactly wat I can expect from communist Jagdeo.

Now if he explored the notion of selling carbon credits to PRIVATE sector energy users in exchange for leaving Guyana's forests unused then its a different story. Maybe that mihght work EVENTUALLY.

The man wants a job in some int'l agency dealing with global warming so is seeking visibility.
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Originally posted by caribj:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
Do you agree, then with Bharrat Jagdeo's efforts to exact reasonable compensation from the industralized countries regarding the benefits of Guyana's reinforests?

I can see it now. Americans have to sacrifice help in receiving healthcare, retirement benefits, college aid, etc so that Guyana can receive compensation.

That will go over pretty well.

If Jagdeo is expecting compensation from govts who will wait in vain.

Can you explain specific and relevant items of your comments, thus far, regarding Forestry Management Strategy for, say:

1. Canada,

2. United States,

3. Guyana,

on the varied options to manage the natural resources -- plus considering global effects and the carbon dioxide -vs- oxygen inter-relationship?
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DG, Yu Baad yu kno, how yu gun ask de man haad haad question like dat?? partybanana
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by caribj:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
Do you agree, then with Bharrat Jagdeo's efforts to exact reasonable compensation from the industralized countries regarding the benefits of Guyana's reinforests?

I can see it now. Americans have to sacrifice help in receiving healthcare, retirement benefits, college aid, etc so that Guyana can receive compensation.

That will go over pretty well.

If Jagdeo is expecting compensation from govts who will wait in vain.

Can you explain specific and relevant items of your comments, thus far, regarding Forestry Management Strategy for, say:

1. Canada,

2. United States,

3. Guyana,

on the varied options to manage the natural resources -- plus considering global effects and the carbon dioxide -vs- oxygen inter-relationship?


You can get technical if you want. Please note that if the US pays Guyana compensation it will be with the tax doilars of US citizens and residents.

Now please tell me what their respons ewill be in light of our increasing budget deficits (Federal State and Local), social security and medicare deficits, escalating property taxes, and hiking costs of health care and college education.



You and Jagdeo need to find away to source private sector dollars becuase if you think you will get congressmen in the USA to compensate Guyana when eco oriented projects in the US languish for lack of capital YOU DREAM.

Now you live in Canada and maybe Canadians have a different attitude to life given that your pensions and post retirement healthcare benefits are much better than ours. College is more accessable and so is healthcare. Not so in the USA.

But at a time when McCain (who seems as if he will be our President) is telling Americans to shell out $1300/month to pay for their families healthcare I would like to see which congressman will vociferously argue that US taxpayer's $ be used to compensate Guyana when we are way too small to make one iota of difference in carbon emmissions or global warming.


And not to say that McCains plans are without cause. Its becoming increasingly difficult for US corporations to remain competitive while paying for the lion share of their employees healthcare costs. But thes eemployees cant pay for it either, and neither can teh Federal Govt.

So you see DG to tell Americans to solve Jagdeo's problems when they have many more of their own.....YOU DREAM!!!
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Originally posted by Nehru:
DG, Yu Baad yu kno, how yu gun ask de man haad haad question like dat?? partybanana


You dont even understand what DG is saying to so why dont go back and learn your ABC's.
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DG can you cite statistics which indicate that Guyana not cutting down its forests will make a MAJOR impact on global carbon emmissions.

So much so that Americans will go to sleep at night worrying about their quality of life if Guyana does indeed cut down its trees?


Please note we are talking of Guyana ONLY and not Brazil, Africa or SouthEast Asia.
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Originally posted by caribj:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
Do you agree, then with Bharrat Jagdeo's efforts to exact reasonable compensation from the industralized countries regarding the benefits of Guyana's reinforests?

I can see it now. Americans have to sacrifice help in receiving healthcare, retirement benefits, college aid, etc so that Guyana can receive compensation.

That will go over pretty well.

If Jagdeo is expecting compensation from govts who will wait in vain.

Can you explain specific and relevant items of your comments, thus far, regarding Forestry Management Strategy for, say:

1. Canada,

2. United States,

3. Guyana,

on the varied options to manage the natural resources -- plus considering global effects and the carbon dioxide -vs- oxygen inter-relationship?


You can get technical if you want. Please note that if the US pays Guyana compensation it will be with the tax doilars of US citizens and residents.

Now please tell me what their respons ewill be in light of our increasing budget deficits (Federal State and Local), social security and medicare deficits, escalating property taxes, and hiking costs of health care and college education.



You and Jagdeo need to find away to source private sector dollars becuase if you think you will get congressmen in the USA to compensate Guyana when eco oriented projects in the US languish for lack of capital YOU DREAM.

Now you live in Canada and maybe Canadians have a different attitude to life given that your pensions and post retirement healthcare benefits are much better than ours. College is more accessable and so is healthcare. Not so in the USA.

But at a time when McCain (who seems as if he will be our President) is telling Americans to shell out $1300/month to pay for their families healthcare I would like to see which congressman will vociferously argue that US taxpayer's $ be used to compensate Guyana when we are way too small to make one iota of difference in carbon emmissions or global warming.


And not to say that McCains plans are without cause. Its becoming increasingly difficult for US corporations to remain competitive while paying for the lion share of their employees healthcare costs. But thes eemployees cant pay for it either, and neither can teh Federal Govt.

So you see DG to tell Americans to solve Jagdeo's problems when they have many more of their own.....YOU DREAM!!!

From what you have provided --- what does that have to do with the specific questions on:

-- Forestry Management Strategy in Canada, United States and Guyana, regarding compensation for the preservation of the rainforests, specifically in Guyana, due to the imbalance of the carbon dioxide -vs- onygen??


Thus far, you are expressing personal opinions and bloated irrelevance.

You continue to leave the impression that:

1. This topic is out of your league ... but you find it as an opportunity to redicule a politician from Guyana.

2. You fail to view the issues from Guyana's rightful perspective and the benefits to Guyanese.
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Originally posted by caribj:

So you see DG to tell Americans to solve Jagdeo's problems when they have many more of their own.....YOU DREAM!!!


Problems -- indeed problems.

But, it is NOT Guyana's problem !! Big Grin

Guyana holds the "key" to assist to address the pressing global warming problems facing the industrialised countries ... Canada, United States, etc.

The dream indeed is yours ... if you believe that the problems are as you stated.
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by caribj:

So you see DG to tell Americans to solve Jagdeo's problems when they have many more of their own.....YOU DREAM!!!


Problems -- indeed problems.

But, it is NOT Guyana's problem !! Big Grin

Guyana holds the "key" to assist to address the pressing global warming problems facing the industrialised countries ... Canada, United States, etc.

The dream indeed is yours ... if you believe that the problems are as you stated.


I was under the impression that 90% of Guyana's population lives on the coastline that is below sea level and ocean levels are rising and sea defenses are crumbling. But, if Demerara_Guy (a self proclaimed executive decision maker lol ) says global warming is not GY's problem then it must be true. Wink
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by caribj:

So you see DG to tell Americans to solve Jagdeo's problems when they have many more of their own.....YOU DREAM!!!


Problems -- indeed problems.

But, it is NOT Guyana's problem !! Big Grin

Guyana holds the "key" to assist to address the pressing global warming problems facing the industrialised countries ... Canada, United States, etc.

The dream indeed is yours ... if you believe that the problems are as you stated.


I was under the impression that 90% of Guyana's population lives on the coastline that is below sea level and ocean levels are rising and sea defenses are crumbling. But, if Demerara_Guy (a self proclaimed executive decision maker lol ) says global warming is not GY's problem then it must be true. Wink

Being out of context, lack of comprehension plus name-calling seem to continue to be your forte.

Take a carefull review regarding the specificity of my statement -- But, it is NOT Guyana's problem !!

However, what else is new about your approach to discussions here?
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DG

GNI is a forum to have fun!!!

You seem to use it to live out your fantasy of being an "Executive" Decision maker. Get a life!
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DG

GNI is a forum to have fun!!!


That part I fully agree -- relative to the tone and nature of each topic under discussions.

And I do get lots of fun here since I registered as a member in April 2005 .... but used other parts of the site prior to that date.

If indeed your comments to all threads on GNI are to be considered as fun ... then but perhaps your views should be simple taken as insignificant and irrevelant.
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Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
DG

You seem to use it to live out your fantasy of being an "Executive" Decision maker. Get a life!

Now -- that is additional proof of your name-calling expressions.
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