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Originally posted by DaFreak:
wut does Malgre Tout mean? and those po villagers wondah how deh pronounced it

Malgre Tout (In Spite of All)

This was taken from the article posted by the Ambassador!!!

It was pronounced ...... "Ma-ga Toot"!!...that's how everybady said it!

You know us guyanese....we can pronounce anything in our own way !!

he certainly did, i jus missed that wee bit of detail didi

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Originally posted by Villagebelle:

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
wut does Malgre Tout mean? and those po villagers wondah how deh pronounced it

Malgre Tout (In Spite of All)

This was taken from the article posted by the Ambassador!!!

It was pronounced ...... "Ma-ga Toot"!!...that's how everybady said it!

You know us guyanese....we can pronounce anything in our own way !!

where is this? never heard of it / and I lived practically all over Guyana...

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Originally posted by rajkumari:
where is this? never heard of it / and I lived practically all over Guyana...

I answered this about 4 or 5 posts above.

It is on the West Bank of Demerara between vreed-en-hoop and Pouderoyen.

the area around West Dem School.

there is even an elementary school called Malgre tout.
I used to take lessons there from the principal of the school to write the then Teacher's third year exam.

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
Baracus, geh we some history of de people of Wismar nuh. Yuh was born dea right?

I was born in the hospital in MacKenzie. That's across the river from where we lived....
But yes, I am from Wismar, or more accurately: West Watooka. My time was spent chasing buck gyals.
I know little of the history, except that I was already born and witnessed the decimation of the local Indian population in 1963.
There was a thriving saw mill that employed a lot of folks, until it got burnt down by unknown assailants of dark appearance.

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Originally posted by Villagebelle:

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Originally posted by rajkumari:
where is this? never heard of it / and I lived practically all over Guyana...

I answered this about 4 or 5 posts above.

It is on the West Bank of Demerara between vreed-en-hoop and Pouderoyen.

the area around West Dem School.

there is even an elementary school called Malgre tout.
I used to take lessons there from the principal of the school to write the then Teacher's third year exam.

sorry VBelle... i didnt read.. just saw the name and wondered.... to be honest, i have never gone up the bank - GT to rosignal / to NA and straight to fatty-seven ..

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Originally posted by Mr.T:

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
Baracus, geh we some history of de people of Wismar nuh. Yuh was born dea right?

I was born in the hospital in MacKenzie. That's across the river from where we lived....
But yes, I am from Wismar, or more accurately: West Watooka. My time was spent chasing buck gyals.
I know little of the history, except that I was already born and witnessed the decimation of the local Indian population in 1963.
There was a thriving saw mill that employed a lot of folks, until it got burnt down by unknown assailants of dark appearance.

i didnt know they had buck gals in Wismar!!

When you cross that bridge from McKenzie to Wismar, the area to the left of the bridge was once an Indian village. Time has watered down the population and many have moved away. But in the 50's and 60's it was a big community. Many of them worked for my grandfather. We once owned large sways of land around there. Much of it has been sold off to build new houses. Mind you, the contents of the "will" as produced after the death of my grandfather makes me suspect that some of us in the family were swindled. But that's another story.

Mr T....what where some of the names of the areas/villages around there?...and maybe their origin.

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Originally posted by Villagebelle:
Mr T....what where some of the names of the areas/villages around there?...and maybe their origin.

Don't know about origins, but places I remember are:


Speightland and Dalawalla: located some 3 miles in the Lower Demerara from Linden.

Moblissa: located east of the Soesdyke Linden Highway.

Wiruni, Wikki/ Calcuni and Kwakwani, DeVeldt, Geatroy, Kimbia, Ebini, Fort Nassau, Ebini.

West Watooka: on the right Bank of the Demerara.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:

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Originally posted by Villagebelle:
Mr T....what where some of the names of the areas/villages around there?...and maybe their origin.

Don't know about origins, but places I remember are:


Speightland and Dalawalla: located some 3 miles in the Lower Demerara from Linden.

Moblissa: located east of the Soesdyke Linden Highway.

Wiruni, Wikki/ Calcuni and Kwakwani, DeVeldt, Geatroy, Kimbia, Ebini, Fort Nassau, Ebini.

West Watooka: on the right Bank of the Demerara.

Mr. T.. how you doing man..

How come in Guyana they dont have many streets, towns or villages with Hindustani names like in Suriname? You know some Hindustani names of places in Suriname?

Guyana

Prashad Nagar
Bengal
Pakistan

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Originally posted by DaFreak:

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Originally posted by Villagebelle:

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Originally posted by Riya:

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
a couple mo French Villages?

Malgre Tout, Nouvelle Flanders

never heard of these...where are they? Esssequibo?

Malgre Tout.....This is the area where West Dem Govt School is located. jus between vreed-en-hoop and Pouderoyen.

wut does Malgre Tout mean? and those po villagers wondah how deh pronounced it

Port Mourant

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Originally posted by Jansher:
Guyana

Prashad Nagar
Bengal
Pakistan

whea is Bengal bhaijan?

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Originally posted by DaFreak:

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Originally posted by Jansher:
Guyana

Prashad Nagar
Bengal
Pakistan

whea is Bengal bhaijan?

After you pass Brighton, then comes Bengal (corentyne, berbice)

which village were u born in bhaijan?

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
which village were u born in bhaijan?

Yaar, I was barn at New Amsterdam Public Hospital, and grew up at Plantation Maida, Corentyne Berbice, which back then was a plantation and not a village yet. It was owned by Amin and Ahmad Sankar. You got Kildonian, Bushlot Village, Pln Farm, PLN Maida, Philipy, Chromorty, Welligton Park, Eversham, Brighton, Bengal, 43 Village... something like this.

Jansher, did the newspaper printed the letter? Their is a slight misrepresentation when I looked at the last version.

It was published in SN. Asif posted it on GNI.

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Originally posted by BK:

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Originally posted by Churchill:
Canje also is famous for its contributions to the struggle for the upliftment of the Guyanese masses...

Several sugar workers were killed there I think in 1913 or 1914 before the first world war... when they were protesting the harsh working conditions at Rose Hall...

One of the leaders of that protest was a muslim man I think "Bachus" ...

All of the leaders of the 1913 Rosehall protests were Muslims - Moula Bux, Jahangir Khan, Dildar Khan, Chotey Khan, Aladi, and Amirbaksh -- stood up to the injustices on the plantations (as referenced by Basdeo Mangru in one of his publications).

Moula Bux was the "Bachus" I mentioned....went to school with one of his grandsons who unfortunately passed away in 2003...

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
check out some Scot names here;

On East and West Bank Berbice

- Sisters District: Providence | Glasgow | Edinburgh | Everton | Belle Vue | Rotterdam | Lonsdale | Sisters | Friends | Kootberaad | Dieutichum | De Kinderen | Busee’s Lust | Highbury | Light Town

Highbury listed here is where the first set of East Indians disembarked from the Whitby early on the morning of May 5th,1838...there is a small monument there to this mark this historic event...

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Originally posted by Churchill:

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Originally posted by BK:

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Originally posted by Churchill:
Canje also is famous for its contributions to the struggle for the upliftment of the Guyanese masses...

Several sugar workers were killed there I think in 1913 or 1914 before the first world war... when they were protesting the harsh working conditions at Rose Hall...

One of the leaders of that protest was a muslim man I think "Bachus" ...

All of the leaders of the 1913 Rosehall protests were Muslims - Moula Bux, Jahangir Khan, Dildar Khan, Chotey Khan, Aladi, and Amirbaksh -- stood up to the injustices on the plantations (as referenced by Basdeo Mangru in one of his publications).

Moula Bux was the "Bachus" I mentioned....went to school with one of his grandsons who unfortunately passed away in 2003...

would have love to know more about these great men. Church... soh when you tekking a trip to the mother land. I made some connect with people in the south who invited me there.

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Originally posted by Mr.T:

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
isnt dere a village name Caledonia(n) in GY too? dat is big time Scott

our very own Mr T is part Scottish

You are getting me confused with D2. I don't even drink Scotch.

hahaha! then why u wear that kilt for...and no...lordie that was a sight ...sorree is the drink u talking about...

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Originally posted by Churchill:

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
check out some Scot names here;

On East and West Bank Berbice

- Sisters District: Providence | Glasgow | Edinburgh | Everton | Belle Vue | Rotterdam | Lonsdale | Sisters | Friends | Kootberaad | Dieutichum | De Kinderen | Busee’s Lust | Highbury | Light Town

Highbury listed here is where the first set of East Indians disembarked from the Whitby early on the morning of May 5th,1838...there is a small monument there to this mark this historic event...

I learned another thing today...Gilbratar (sp) ...Fryish public road divided this from Fryish... also the Etwaroo's from No 43...Churchie..this Friendship u guys referring to is the one I read where the Sunsplash resort is located? Would that be in Linden...

Villages in Leguan

Enterprise
Blenheim
Endeavour
Amsterdam
Canefield
Retrieve
Cornelia
Elizabethan
Dauntless
La Bagatelle
Maryville
Belfield
Louisiana
Phoenix
Success
Thierens

Uniform
Dorn Hagg
Richmond Hill

Dont know a few names in 'back part' Leguan

Supa M might know ..Mikey did ileave out any village from Success end?

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East Bank essequibo
Hubu
Roden-Rust ( My dad was born and raised here)
Salem
Parika ( my dad attended the Anglican sch by railway line..St Andrews)

Hydronie
Orangestein
Le Destein
Farm
Ruby
Good Hope
Barnwell
Greenwich Park
Philadelphia
Vergenoegen
Tuschen

West Coast Demerara

Zeelugt
De Kinderen
Meten-Meer-Zorg
De Willem
Zeeburg
Uitvlugt
Stewartville
Leonora
Anna Catherina
Cornelia Ida
Hague
Den Amstel
La Jalousie
Windsor Forest
Ruimzight ( ? sp)

missing a few here..

Vreed-en-hoop

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
dere is a Kildonan on Corentyne and i believe dis Caledonia is on Essequibo coast

Calidonia is a village in Wakenaam

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Originally posted by Jansher:
Mr. T.. how you doing man..

How come in Guyana they dont have many streets, towns or villages with Hindustani names like in Suriname? You know some Hindustani names of places in Suriname?

The British were more interested in trapping the kulies and deculturing them versus the Dutch who were more humane in allowing the kulies to sustain their culture.

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Originally posted by ICIP:

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Originally posted by Jansher:
Mr. T.. how you doing man..

How come in Guyana they dont have many streets, towns or villages with Hindustani names like in Suriname? You know some Hindustani names of places in Suriname?

The British were more interested in trapping the kulies and deculturing them versus the Dutch who were more humane in allowing the kulies to sustain their culture.

Go read my pieces, the dutch taught the children of Hindus and Muslims Hindustani and built for them masjids and mandirs. As well, the dutch governor by decree and against the Surinamese Parliament, adopted the Asian Marriage act. The indians were lucky as well because governor Kalendra came from Indonesia and he looked on the asian favourably. He was a professor. The highway from the airport to paramaribo is name, the Indian Ghandi Way.

Lucknow Straat
Fyzabad Straat
Patna Street
Gorakpur Street
Mirzapbur Straat
Calcutta
Azamgar Straat
Ghandi BLVD

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Originally posted by ICIP:

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Originally posted by DaFreak:
dere is a Kildonan on Corentyne and i believe dis Caledonia is on Essequibo coast

Calidonia is a village in Wakenaam

hea bhai, whea yuh disappeared tuh? like yuh went tuh GY wid didi_Cham

trust all is well wit ya

suh wuz i incorrect in sayin Caledonia is on de Esseq Coast seein it's on Wakenaam Isl?