I was in Queens today, so I decided to drop by Masjid Al Abidin for Jummah. What a mistake that was. Before the Adhan was given, all hell broke loose with two men fighting on the PA system about misuse of the Masjid funds, and one threatening to call the police into the masjid to have the other expelled etc.


The funny part is that nobody in the masjid cared about what the fight was about saying that this was an everyweek story.

I think somebady need fu give a a good stick lash pan these men

on jummah during ramadan. thats so sickening

is one a de reasons suh many muslims are stayin away from mosques in NAmer

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I was in Queens today, so I decided to drop by Masjid Al Abidin for Jummah.

btw Abu, deh readin Jummah prayer on a Sat?

i always joked that i will stop in there if i was ever on liberty avenue on a friday afternoon. but it looks like there are plenty jokers in there.

what chief has to say about this

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what chief has to say about this

he doan guh deh no mo :)

[63.1] When the hypocrites come to you, they say: We bear witness that you are most surely Allah's Apostle; and Allah knows that you are most surely His Apostle, and Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are surely liars.
[63.2] They make their oaths a shelter, and thus turn away from Allah's way; surely evil is that which they do.
[63.3] That is because they believe, then disbelieve, so a seal is set upon their hearts so that they do not understand.
[63.4] And when you see them, their persons will please you, and If they speak, you will listen to their speech; (they are) as if they were big pieces of wood clad with garments; they think every cry to be against them. They are the enemy, therefore beware of them; may Allah destroy them, whence are they turned back?
[63.5] And when it is said to them: Come, the Apostle of Allah will ask forgiveness for you, they turn back their heads and you may see them turning away while they are big with pride.
[63.6] It is alike to them whether you beg forgiveness for them or do not beg forgiveness for them; Allah will never forgive them; surely Allah does not guide the transgressing people.
[63.7] They it is who say: Do not spend upon those who are with the Apostle of Allah until they break up. And Allah's are the treasures of the heavens and the earth, but the hypocrites do not understand.
[63.8] They say: If we return to Medina, the mighty will surely drive out the meaner therefrom; and to Allah belongs the might and to His Apostle and to the believers, but the hypocrites do not know.
[63.9] O you who believe! let not your wealth, or your children, divert you from the remembrance of Allah; and whoever does that, these are the losers.
[63.10] And spend out of what We have given you before death comes to one of you, so that he should say: My Lord! why didst Thou not respite me to a near term, so that I should have given alms and been of the doers of good deeds?
[63.11] And Allah does not respite a soul when its appointed term has come, and Allah is Aware of what you do

Ramadan is the month of fasting, intensive prayer, sacrifice and Divine worship. Throughout this month a devout Muslim fasts during the day in the true sense of the word, that is, he had merely denies himself food and water, but as explained by the Holy Prophet (S.A.W.), exercises strict control over his tongue, eyes, ears, thoughts and deeds and does everything possible to seek the pleasure of Allah.

my question is why these men failed. what were they thinking?

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my question is why these men failed.

doan yuh be dere judge now :)

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Originally posted by DaFreak:

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my question is why these men failed.

doan yuh be dere judge now :)

of course i cant be a judge but i am asking why these men failed . what were in there thoughts that in such a moment they lost all the teachings that they preach?

ai bhais...the ideals are what we state. the reality is that ramadan is like any other month, and when people hungry, they get angry. All this kiss me arse thing about being nice...well..it gotta limit. Now you see all this crap about food being posted when I fasting? or shall we say, witholding myself from food? (there's a big diff)...nuh lemme ketch wun cutlish....

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what were in there thoughts

yuh wud need fi become a psychoanalyst fi unastan wut yuh seekin

these are the reasons i stay away from houses of prayer. How can someone tell me to do good and dem fighting in such an auspicious occasion. ?

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what were in there thoughts

yuh wud need fi become a psychoanalyst fi unastan wut yuh seekin

u seem to be detracting from why would someone create a ruckus at a time like that

how de asss cyan yuh expect an ansa from me or anyone else hea as to why deh behaved de way deh did?

The blessings of Ramadan are not limited to fasting alone, because the performance of all sorts of worship and good deeds during this month is also a source of great Divine favor. The revelation of the Holy Qur'an commenced during this very month and it is therefore the duty of every Muslim to read and try to understand the meaning of the Holy Qur'an and thereby gain an insight into the Divine secrets enshrined therein. It brings peace and illumination to the mind and imparts purity to the soul.
thereby gain an insight into the Divine secrets enshrined therein. It brings peace and illumination to the mind and imparts purity to the soul.
Dara i disagree that u blaming hunga fuh the anga.


It brings peace and illumination to the mind and imparts purity to the soul.

read that again. those men should have left the mosque and read their holy book and come back at evening prayers repentful and apologize.

have a good day Kris T Ian

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have a good day Kris T Ian

are u running from this topic or u going to the beach?

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these are the reasons i stay away from houses of prayer. How can someone tell me to do good and dem fighting in such an auspicious occasion. ?

dats why i wid da ho in ida

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Originally posted by dara shikoh:

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Originally posted by krishna:
these are the reasons i stay away from houses of prayer. How can someone tell me to do good and dem fighting in such an auspicious occasion. ?

dats why i wid da ho in ida

hehhhheee

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Originally posted by dara shikoh:

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Originally posted by krishna:
these are the reasons i stay away from houses of prayer. How can someone tell me to do good and dem fighting in such an auspicious occasion. ?

dats why i wid da ho in ida

this is a very serious cultural, sociological issue and thats the best you can do?

bhai..unfortunately, sometimes one has to think of his personal well being. Now abu and the rest of them can go to the mosque and interact on a good level even if they are upset. I, on the other hand, becaues I teach, have a different interaction. People expect me to take sides etc. So sometimes...I just stay away or go to mosques where I am not known...

i am not talking about taking sides here.

I am asking that from a sociological cultural, religious aspect.

1. what kind of people create a ruckus before prayers
2. what kind of people procliam themselves to be pious and yet make themselves fools at such a pivotal moment?

oh..I get it.
Good questions. This is why you have exhortations among the Muslims that say that if you can't act properly, then your fast is just starvation....sometimes people focus on the ritual rather than the spirit behind it...
sometimes ego truimphs..it is the perpetual fight between humans and their baser instincts..which is why some hindus believe that the entire ramayana episode of krshna and arjuna has nothing to do with an actual war..but with the good and evil within fighthing for possession of the person...

dara,
what u had for Suhoor this morning

bhai, until Tu I ain't fasting. When travelling, i am allowed to suspend the fast. Normally I won't, but since this is a film festival with a lot of formal meals, I'd rather observer the diplomatic...no one needs to know of my religious observance when the divine allows me to interact harmoniously. The only thing is that now I have days to make up...

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no one needs to know of my religious observance

wid a name like DR KM how the hell they wont know what your religious preference?

You'd be amazing how clueless some of these people are. Most filmmakers for whatever reason are on a different planet it would seen. Only ONE person brought it up yesterday..and he was a pastor.

so what do u get from fasting?

what are some of the positives u get out of it.

until we realize that the purpose of our houses of worships is
To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness.

we are doomed