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i dont agree with abus statement at all, unless he wants to explain or elaborate further on his add in statement at the end there.. no compulsion in the religion - that is just what it means.

I see you are willing to let him spin and come up with his new interpretation.

doesnt he always?

He dose ???

yes.

Juss checking

no prob. :)

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no prob. :)

I taat so ::)

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Originally posted by laker:
Argie, on principle, the Hindu is wrong. If it is outlawed in Saudi Arabia to worship in his way, then he should abide by the law of that country.
He made choices, and hence he has to live with the consequences.

I have to disagree. On principle, anyone anywhere should be allowed to practise whatever beliefs they choose as long as it causes no harm to others, otherwise the situation in that particular state/place would be akin to a less severe form of Naziism.

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Originally posted by Petal29:

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Originally posted by laker:
Argie, on principle, the Hindu is wrong. If it is outlawed in Saudi Arabia to worship in his way, then he should abide by the law of that country.
He made choices, and hence he has to live with the consequences.

I have to disagree. On principle, anyone anywhere should be allowed to practise whatever beliefs they choose as long as it causes no harm to others, otherwise the situation in that particular state/place would be akin to a less severe form of Naziism.

How come the mormons doan get to marry their 14 wives in the US? - this is part of their religion. Yuh saying the US is Nazi?

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Originally posted by Petal29:

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Originally posted by laker:
Argie, on principle, the Hindu is wrong. If it is outlawed in Saudi Arabia to worship in his way, then he should abide by the law of that country.
He made choices, and hence he has to live with the consequences.

I have to disagree. On principle, anyone anywhere should be allowed to practise whatever beliefs they choose as long as it causes no harm to others, otherwise the situation in that particular state/place would be akin to a less severe form of Naziism.

Not all laws are fair or just. What should be or what is fair is not the point. It is the breaking of the law that I have a problem with. I don't care...if he wanted to pray then he should do it within the rules of the country. That it is not tolerated is another issue.

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Originally posted by laker:
Not all laws are fair or just. What should be or what is fair is not the point. It is the breaking of the law that I have a problem with. I don't care...if he wanted to pray then he should do it within the rules of the country. That it is not tolerated is another issue.

That's why we have to fight to make things fair and just... even by breaking laws. I do not go by the principle that one must abide by whatever unjust laws exist...I guess that's why I'm a troublemaker. :)

Is it really disallowed to practice in SA?...what I found really funny in an absurd way is that "Members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of
Vice" hauled him off.

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Originally posted by Petal29:

I have to disagree. On principle, anyone anywhere should be allowed to practise whatever beliefs they choose as long as it causes no harm to others, otherwise the situation in that particular state/place would be akin to a less severe form of Naziism.

DITTO

Petal; that committee exists in Najd. It is to just provide employment for a set of intolerant old bedouins who know nothing. They catch anybody at prayer time and make him pray...including philipino christians etc. They are a laugh story. IN Saudi, even the Saudis laugh and run from them. Their power is only over foreigners who can't speak english. Problem is that indians in Saudi Arabia go there with a "we are here to work " mentality..and they get taken advantage of. It is really sad. When the indians complain the Saudis will not chastise their own. Sort of what happens sometimes on this forum...

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Originally posted by Petal29:

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Originally posted by laker:
Not all laws are fair or just. What should be or what is fair is not the point. It is the breaking of the law that I have a problem with. I don't care...if he wanted to pray then he should do it within the rules of the country. That it is not tolerated is another issue.

That's why we have to fight to make things fair and just... even by breaking laws. I do not go by the principle that one must abide by whatever unjust laws exist...I guess that's why I'm a troublemaker. :)

Is it really disallowed to practice in SA?...what I found really funny in an absurd way is that "Members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of
Vice" hauled him off.

Jomo Kenyatta
"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible".


" The European condemns the Africans for having two wives yet he keeps two mistresses"

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Originally posted by Petal29:

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Originally posted by laker:
Argie, on principle, the Hindu is wrong. If it is outlawed in Saudi Arabia to worship in his way, then he should abide by the law of that country.
He made choices, and hence he has to live with the consequences.

I have to disagree. On principle, anyone anywhere should be allowed to practise whatever beliefs they choose as long as it causes no harm to others, otherwise the situation in that particular state/place would be akin to a less severe form of Naziism.

Trying reading a qur'an and praying in a plane.

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Originally posted by Terry Ishmael:
Jomo Kenyatta
"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible".

The ingenuity of the white man. :):) Second to none. :):)

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Originally posted by limer:

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Originally posted by Petal29:
I have to disagree. On principle, anyone anywhere should be allowed to practise whatever beliefs they choose as long as it causes no harm to others, otherwise the situation in that particular state/place would be akin to a less severe form of Naziism.

How come the mormons doan get to marry their 14 wives in the US? - this is part of their religion. Yuh saying the US is Nazi?

Do you think it's healthy for 14 wives to share a husband? What about the children?

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Originally posted by Terry Ishmael:
Trying reading a qur'an and praying in a plane.

Is there a law that specifically prevents this? If not, if it's something that hinders your practice you ought to look into changing it.

You might be sent to Guantanamo though. :)

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Originally posted by Petal29:
Do you think it's healthy for 14 wives to share a husband? What about the children?

De wemen already sharing de man. De jest nat able to marry am.

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Originally posted by ksazma:

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Originally posted by Petal29:
Do you think it's healthy for 14 wives to share a husband? What about the children?

De wemen already sharing de man. De jest nat able to marry am.

Bai I gon tell yuh the state makes no determination of my marital status; my Hindu wedding rites determine that. I have no great urge to sign any Gov't papers to validate marriage.

Beyond that, I could never see myself in the situation that you describe above; why would any rational woman do that?

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Originally posted by Petal29:
Bai I gon tell yuh the state makes no determination of my marital status; my Hindu wedding rites determine that. I have no great urge to sign any Gov't papers to validate marriage.

Beyond that, I could never see myself in the situation that you describe above; why would any rational woman do that?

The keyword there is rational. It is usually difficult for one man and woman to survive a relationship and even the ones that go on to 50 or 75 years will tell of all the compromises that were necessary to survive their relationship. That is why I believe that it is almost if not impossible for anyone in today's society to successfully simultaneously indulge in more than one relationship. All this talk of being able to have more than one wife does not work in today's society.

If a passenger makes a complaint that a fellow acts suspicious, that is...for many airlines...enough to cast anyone off the plane. Easpecically if he is a Muslim, reading a qur'an. I never tried reading the bible in arabic on the plane. That would be funny.

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Originally posted by Petal29:

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Originally posted by Terry Ishmael:
Trying reading a qur'an and praying in a plane.

Is there a law that specifically prevents this? If not, if it's something that hinders your practice you ought to look into changing it.

You might be sent to Guantanamo though. :)

Religion and rationality often clash. Plus sometimes there are perks. In ole china, the girl wanted her husband to marry her OTHER SISTERS to keep the proprety in the family, and make sure they got along well...

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Originally posted by Petal29:

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Originally posted by ksazma:

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Originally posted by Petal29:
Do you think it's healthy for 14 wives to share a husband? What about the children?

De wemen already sharing de man. De jest nat able to marry am.

Bai I gon tell yuh the state makes no determination of my marital status; my Hindu wedding rites determine that. I have no great urge to sign any Gov't papers to validate marriage.

Beyond that, I could never see myself in the situation that you describe above; why would any rational woman do that?

Somebody forget to ask clinton. And Jesse Jackson. And yes, at the risk of irritating some of us, Martin LUther King.

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Originally posted by ksazma:

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Originally posted by Petal29:
Bai I gon tell yuh the state makes no determination of my marital status; my Hindu wedding rites determine that. I have no great urge to sign any Gov't papers to validate marriage.

Beyond that, I could never see myself in the situation that you describe above; why would any rational woman do that?

The keyword there is rational. It is usually difficult for one man and woman to survive a relationship and even the ones that go on to 50 or 75 years will tell of all the compromises that were necessary to survive their relationship. That is why I believe that it is almost if not impossible for anyone in today's society to successfully simultaneously indulge in more than one relationship. All this talk of being able to have more than one wife does not work in today's society.

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Originally posted by ksazma:

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Originally posted by Terry Ishmael:
Jomo Kenyatta
"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible".

The ingenuity of the white man. :):) Second to none. :):)

How different is this to the expansion of the Muslim Empire when they were robbing and pillaging in their quest for land? Y'all mussi tink dat Turkey was always Muslim nuh? How yuh tink Islam spread over all ovuh Africa? Jomo like he fuhget fuh mention dat de Muslims was enslavin Africans or sellin dem to de Europeans fuh centuries.

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Originally posted by limer:

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Originally posted by Petal29:
I have to disagree. On principle, anyone anywhere should be allowed to practise whatever beliefs they choose as long as it causes no harm to others, otherwise the situation in that particular state/place would be akin to a less severe form of Naziism.

How come the mormons doan get to marry their 14 wives in the US? - this is part of their religion. Yuh saying the US is Nazi?

Do you think it's healthy for 14 wives to share a husband? What about the children?

Why Not ??? The mumma gun tek care ah dee piknees dem...wa is you prablem..there will come a time ..not too long from now when it will become legal for a man to have more than wifee..truss me..mark me wurds.

Ai bahi..selim himself was turk. Parts of africa..Othman dan fodio via war. other parts: sufis. Slave: yes, those buggers were selling slaves to the white man. Up to the 60's in saudi Arabia those buggers were capturing hajjis for slaves. "Muslims" and "Africans" were often the one and same...ah well...once a religion got a STATE and got pwoer, all hell broke loose. But rass, before all you fight up about what belong to whom, send me de damn song tohe sawariya. I want my JS to hear it before she run away wid somebadee.

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Originally posted by ksazma:

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Originally posted by Terry Ishmael:
Jomo Kenyatta
"When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible".

The ingenuity of the white man. :):) Second to none. :):)

How different is this to the expansion of the Muslim Empire when they were robbing and pillaging in their quest for land? Y'all mussi tink dat Turkey was always Muslim nuh? How yuh tink Islam spread over all ovuh Africa? Jomo like he fuhget fuh mention dat de Muslims was enslavin Africans or sellin dem to de Europeans fuh centuries.

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Originally posted by Petal29:

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Originally posted by limer:

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Originally posted by Petal29:
I have to disagree. On principle, anyone anywhere should be allowed to practise whatever beliefs they choose as long as it causes no harm to others, otherwise the situation in that particular state/place would be akin to a less severe form of Naziism.

How come the mormons doan get to marry their 14 wives in the US? - this is part of their religion. Yuh saying the US is Nazi?

Do you think it's healthy for 14 wives to share a husband? What about the children?

Don't stray...Stay on the point...
Health? they are healthier than you and me. What about the children?