Kuwait Feb 28: Dr. Zakir Naik a world famous Indian orator on comparative religion is visiting Kuwait from 28 Feb-04 March 2008 as a guest of Ministry of Islam Presentation Committee (IPC), Kuwait.

Islam Presentation Committee ( IPC) a well known organization in Kuwait promoting inter cultural and inter-religious understanding among locals and expatriates in Kuwait, has invited him to Kuwait to introduce him to Kuwait populace and to spread the message of inter-religious understanding.

Islam Presentation Committee ( IPC) is arranging a Public Lecture of Dr. Zakir Naik on Friday 29th Feb 2008 at 6:30 pm at Touristic Park Jaleeb Al Shyoukh, with free open invitation to people from various faiths and nationalities. Thousands of people from different faiths and nationalities are expected to attend this mega event.

This public lecture will be arranged in co-ordination with Indian Muslim Association (IMA ) and Kerala Islamic Group ( KIG), two large expatriate organizations in Kuwait which conduct various programs to promote good will and harmony among expatriates in Kuwait.

Dr.Zakir Naik, President of the Mumbai based Islamic Research Foundation (IRF), calls on the people to practice the essence of religion in their life and stand for spreading the ideas of peace and justice in the society. IRF owns a website www.irf.net.
Dr. Zakir Naik is also managing a 24 hour Islamic Spiritual Edutainment International Satellite TV Channel which now can be received in more than 125 countries in Asia, Middle East, Europe, Africa and Australia. Shortly it would be telecast to the rest of the world too (www.peacetv.in).

Dr Zakir Naik a young medical doctor by professional training, is well known as a dynamic international orator on Islam and Comparative Religion. Dr. Zakir Naik clarifies Islamic viewpoints and clears misconceptions about Islam, using the Qur'an, authentic Hadith and other religious Scriptures as a basis, in conjunction with reason, logic and scientific facts. He has stunned the audience world wide by his tremendous ability to quote extensively from the Holy Qur'an and other religious scriptures.

Dr. Zakir is popular for his critical analysis and convincing answers to challenging questions posed by audiences after his public talks. In the last many years Dr. Zakir Naik has delivered more than 600 public talks in the U.S.A., Canada, U.K., Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, South Africa, Mauritius, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, Hongkong, Thailand, Guyana (South America) and many other countries, in addition to numerous public talks in India.

He has successfully participated in several symposia and dialogues with prominent personalities of other faiths. His public dialogue with Dr. William Campbell (of USA), on the topic, “The Qur'an and the Bible in the light of Science” held in city of Chicago, U.S.A., on April 1, 2000 was a resounding success.

Dr. Zakir Naik appears regularly on many international T.V. Channels in more than 100 countries of the world. He is regularly invited for T.V. and Radio interviews. More than a hundred of his talks, dialogues, debates and symposia are available on video cassettes, video CDs and audio cassettes. He has authored books on Islam and Comparative Religion.

IPC in conjunction with Indian Muslim Association (IMA) and Kerala Islamic Group (KIG) is planning to arrange such events in future as well to spread the message of inter cultural understanding and human harmony in Kuwait.

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Sunil
with due respect to Dr. Naik, here is something that one ought to realise
1. a medical doctor can only study so much about religion..since it is not his field.
2. an apologist is not a scholar, even though his corelgionists may love what he says. Right now christians and muslims love this nonsense.
3. musilms "know" about christianity based on what some verses of the Qur'an say...forgetting that the religion the Q describes is that of a 7th century arabian type, not present today for the most part.
4. christians "know" of islam based on some crap books that are selective (mis)interpretations.
5. Qur'anic/Biblical debates on science are inherently nonsensical since neither book is a primer on science, and each faith follower presumes that he has knowledge of the scientific knowledge of the time
6. it is not fair to subject the bible to this comparison since it is OLDER by vast centuries than the Qur'an, set in a different environment, and does NOT address science. These people waste their time and ours. What naik and others should address is the idea of ethics--and its evolvement throughout the times.
7. I am getting hungry writing this,so can somebody send food. chameli duck curry done. Rajk got other things to do than cook food.
8. almost forgot..by making the bible and q sources of science, these people limit our intellectual enterprises, deny our duty and responsibility to the human race.
9.If he is a medical doctor...what is naik doing talking on religion to the point of neglecting his medical practice? Should he not be healing the body, and if God is so smart, leaving God to guide humans if God is so powerful?

Dara rest you self and let me ask you a more appropriate question.

If a man decide to take more than one homan, does he have to inform or seek permission from the previous ones.

You paddna ask me the question yesteday and I am not sure about the answer.

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Originally posted by Abu Jihad:
If a man decide to take more than one homan, does he have to inform or seek permission from the previous ones.

Get them all at the same time.

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Originally posted by Abu Jihad:
Dara rest you self and let me ask you a more appropriate question.

If a man decide to take more than one homan, does he have to inform or seek permission from the previous ones.

You paddna ask me the question yesteday and I am not sure about the answer.

That depends on his perspective. According to some scripturalists, since it is supposedly his right, he seeks no permission from anyone.
according to others, such as written in Malaysian Law, he must get the fust homan permission.
BTW, yesterday i met some Muslims who tell me that about 2 hrs from TO, there is a community called "hassanville". Incorporated.

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Originally posted by dara shikoh:
BTW, yesterday i met some Muslims who tell me that about 2 hrs from TO, there is a community called "hassanville". Incorporated.

The capital of Florida is Tallahassee. Someone said that it means something like "God watches over us" in American Indian language.

In the keys is an island called Islamorada.

We report, you decide.

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Originally posted by Abu Jihad:
If a man decide to take more than one homan, does he have to inform or seek permission from the previous ones.

Get them all at the same time.

then you might have to divorce them all at the same time and run from bellna coming from all direction :):):)

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BTW, yesterday i met some Muslims who tell me that about 2 hrs from TO, there is a community called "hassanville". Incorporated.

I heard about this a long time ago but I cant remember what was the outcome of the venture. Do you have any more info?

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Originally posted by dara shikoh:
Sunil
with due respect to Dr. Naik, here is something that one ought to realise
1. a medical doctor can only study so much about religion..since it is not his field.
2. an apologist is not a scholar, even though his corelgionists may love what he says. Right now christians and muslims love this nonsense.

Dara,I don't know much about the guy, however I've seen him on TV in numerous appearances on European channels with a style similar to many American TV evangelist:D He is very convincing unfortunately I am in no position to judge whether his arguments are right or wrong.

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Originally posted by Abu Jihad:

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BTW, yesterday i met some Muslims who tell me that about 2 hrs from TO, there is a community called "hassanville". Incorporated.

I heard about this a long time ago but I cant remember what was the outcome of the venture. Do you have any more info?

Under auspices of an amir. sounds rather idealistic in a strange way...I know some of the brothers from 30 years ago....unfor. after 9/11, they have been targetted.
BTW: am reading a book by iftikhar malik. Crescent between cross and star. This is one of the most informed authors and books. will use in my class. Honest. Painful stuff. this guy is an encyclopedia

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Originally posted by Sunil:

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Originally posted by dara shikoh:
Sunil
with due respect to Dr. Naik, here is something that one ought to realise
1. a medical doctor can only study so much about religion..since it is not his field.
2. an apologist is not a scholar, even though his corelgionists may love what he says. Right now christians and muslims love this nonsense.

Dara,I don't know much about the guy, however I've seen him on TV in numerous appearances on European channels with a style similar to many American TV evangelist:D He is very convincing unfortunately I am in no position to judge whether his arguments are right or wrong.

cool. The convincing nature is my problem. I am not saying he is wrong..it is just that this business about debate on science etc is nonsensical. Proven by the fact that the west for all its professed christianity is way ahead of the world in science...

'Fear of Unknown' Leads to Culture Clash
Ottawa Citizen ^ | January 28, 2001 | Kelly Egan

Posted on 01/28/2002 12:44:55 PM PST by Loyalist

'Fear of unknown' leads to culture clash

A mosque is under construction in the hills around Wilno.
It's causing concern in Canada's cradle of Polish Catholicism

Kelly Egan
The Ottawa Citizen

Monday, January 28, 2002

In the newly fallen snow, along Old Barry's Bay Road, the sacred sentinels are freshly cast in white on the edge of the woods, silently expressing a people's weathered endurance.

There is a plaster Jesus, encircled with plastic lilies and sheltered in a wooden hollow, and Mary, a giant silhouette in steel, and, farther along, Mary and the baby Jesus together, in a locked glass case.

Crosses, some of them holding rosaries, seem ever-present, however unexplained. Behind the trees, down snow-covered summer roads, lie outdoor chapels. There is also the starkly beautiful memorial to the Warsaw uprising of 1944, honouring 10,000 young people, mostly Boy Scouts and Girl Guides, who died trying to push the Nazis out during the Second World War.

The mid-winter woods, meanwhile, are as quiet as a church on Monday.

This is Kaszuby, not far from the first Polish settlement in Canada, the place they crossed an ocean for in 1858, bringing part of Poland with them and uncrating it in this hilly countryside around Wilno.

A little farther along, up a steep hill on Stanley Olsheski Road, there is another religious sign, colourfully painted on plywood: Welcome to Hasanville.

This is not a Polish, Roman Catholic enclave but a small Muslim community. It has existed peacefully for at least five years, until several events last year sparked an open struggle that could only happen in a cultural mosaic like Canada, with its history of ethnic entitlement.

Last fall, the community, which numbers between 30 and 40, began construction of a mosque. Rumours went through Barry's Bay like a rocket, chiefly that the building would hold 1,700 worshippers.

Where would they come from? Would they be bused in? How many trailers or mobile homes would be added to the 120-hectare property? Why had construction stopped after Sept. 11? How long would it be before Kaszuby was a hotbed of Islam?

Why didn't the Hasanville girls go to area schools? Why, why, why?

George Mierzynski, a Toronto resident who has summered near Kaszuby for more than 40 years, wanted answers more than most.

"Can you imagine building a mosque for that many people, in the middle of cottage country, on an old farm, and not going through any public information process to advise people this was happening?"

Mr. Mierzynski, a retired public servant, threw the issue into a public arena earlier this month when he approached the council of Madawaska Valley Township with a list of 16 questions.

He demanded an explanation about the issuance of the building permit and wanted to know what provisions had been made for water, sewage, and the subdivision of property.

Where there was once one mobile home, there were now five civic addresses, an iron gate and what appears to be a guard hut.

Neither is he afraid to address the issue of cultural clash, even at the risk of sounding close-minded, even prejudiced.

"They are a different cultural mix to what has existed in the area and has been built up gradually for 150 years. In one fell swoop, the township approves a totally different ethnic mix, including a religion mix, totally culturally different and nobody knows what's going on."

The council, meanwhile, says everything at Hasanville has been done above board.

"I believe it's the fear of the unknown," said Reeve Bill Schweig, who was clearly unsettled by the thrust of Mr. Mierzynski's arguments.

There are other religious communities nearby, such as Madonna House, the reeve argued. And, he pointed out, didn't the Polish-Canadians set up Boy Scout camps, outdoor chapels and other structures using the same planning rules, however slim?

It has also become apparent that Mr. Mierzynski does not speak for the Polish-Canadian community in the area, many of whom are reacting with a 'live-and-let-live' attitude.

(Predictably, there is not one monolithic 'Polish community' or voice, since there were several waves of immigration: the first during the 19th-century, the second in the early part of the 20th, and after the Second World War.)

Mr. Mierzynski, in the flurry of label-tossing, has been called an "out-of-towner" who does not speak for anyone but himself.

However, Anna Zurakowski, a noted local historian in the area, has some of the same worries.

"We are not against other nationalities, but there are some questions about this big mosque," said Mrs. Zurakowski. "And why did they abandon the work after Sept. 11?"

Hasanville used to reside in the Township of Radcliffe, which was amalgamated at the end of 2001. A rural municipality of cottagers and country homes, it had neither zoning bylaws, nor a real planning regime.

Whenever residents wanted to construct something, they applied for a building permit, which was reviewed and granted by a township official.

In the fall of 2001, the community was given a permit to construct a mosque of 7,800 square feet, about the size of three average homes, on a foundation measuring 40 metres by nine metres. No one seems sure where the figure of 1,700 worshippers came from.

The community, which is fairly reclusive, does itself no favours with its public relations policy.

A Citizen reporter who visited the site was met by a man named Glen, who proceeded to offer a criticism of the modern media, then refer the reporter to their spokesman, for whom he would provide no telephone number.

Eventually, a call was placed to Hasanville's "spokesman," a Brampton, Ont., resident named Mohammed Jilany, 66, a retired businessman and mechanical engineer. He is the chief executive officer of the corporation formed to build the mosque.

He says Hasanville is nothing more than a collection of poor people -- mostly but not exclusively Muslim -- trying to escape the evils of urban Canada and follow the teachings of Islam.

"They couldn't survive in the city. So they've gone to the poor area to survive in a trailer. What is there to write about?" Mr. Jilany asked.

He was not forthcoming about the goals or long-term plans of the community, frequently answering a question with a question. (Sample. Q: "Why have they chosen to live there? A: "Why have you chosen to live in Ottawa?")

Mr. Jilany said the most vocal criticism of Hasanville, which is named for a young man killed in a car accident, is racially motivated. He was heartened by an outpouring of supportive letters in the newspaper, Barry's Bay This Week.

He said Canada's history is the story of newcomers establishing themselves in places where they may not be initially wanted.

"I think it's simply a colour bar, a prejudice," he said of the criticism from the Polish community. "Like any settlers in history, when they come into an area and someone else is already established, they always have a problem of bias of this nature."

As for fears that Muslims would swamp the hard-fought Polish identity, he describes such concerns as "nonsense."

He said almost all the residents of the community are converts to Islam, eking out a living. When he took over the corporation, he said there was 35 cents in the bank.

He denied there was a "guard hut" at the gate, video cameras or any connection to U.S.-funded Muslim organizations.

When asked about community life, he said the girls and young boys are home-schooled by mothers with university degrees.

"According to Islam, girls should not go to public school."

He said the community began by accident about 13 years ago when a Muslim man married an area woman and they began looking for property to buy.

"There is nothing hidden."

He said the mosque will be completed when enough donations can be gathered. He estimated it might hold 150 people.

On May 30, 2001, the community building the mosque incorporated itself as Muslims of the Americas Al Madrasah-lul Islamia. The name only added fuel to the mystery.

In the United States, a group called Muslims of the Americas has set up a number of small communities in isolated areas, often in trailers. However, law enforcement authorities say the American group has links to a terrorist organization called Jamaat ul-Faqra, which has been implicated in violent crimes during the last 20 years.

Mr. Jilany, however, strongly denies any link between Hasanville and the U.S.-based Muslims of the Americas.

He was unable to explain why the Hasanville group would choose such a similar sounding name, saying it had been chosen before he became involved with the organization.

The deep irony about a conflict between Poles and Muslims is that the Poles came to this area precisely because they were being so abysmally treated in their homeland and, once here, had to overcome their share of discrimination.

According to The Polish People in Canada by William Makowski, the first wave of Polish immigrants, the Kashoubs, lived in the northern part of Poland in the great plain that stretched to the Baltic Sea.

During the 19th century, the Kashoub homeland, in another round of Polish-German conflict, was occupied by the Prussians and the people forbidden to speak Polish in schools, offices or churches.

Roughly one-third of the population eventually emigrated. Once in Canada, the Poles had to settle for land not already snapped up by the Scots, English or Irish.

"Poles were always brought up as big patriots," said George Burskie, a vice-president of the Canadian Polish Congress and a long-time seasonal visitor to the area.

"When they got here, they did everything possible to help the old country."

Mrs. Zurakowski, head of the Polish Heritage Institute, Kaszuby, said roadside chapels and outdoor Roman Catholic icons are very common in Poland.

Mass is celebrated every summer at the outdoor chapels, usually attracting hundreds of people. Kaszuby is also the site of a large Boy Scout camp, attracting boys and girls from all over Canada for several weeks every summer.

"This area is very close to all the Polish hearts," she said.

Mr. Mierzynski, meanwhile, says he won't be satisfied until he gets some firm answers, including an idea of how large Hasanville will eventually become and how its growth will be governed in the new municipality.

He also intends to involve the government of Ontario in a possible review of environmental concerns dealing with wells, sewage and other infrastructure.

"There are all kinds of rumours and speculation. Those rumours lead to more questions and some people are actually afraid because they don't know who these people are."

© Copyright2002 The Ottawa Citizen

This is the problem of that community....they have no pr skills and when confronted with bigotry go into a defensive mode that is unwise. but...they seem to be doing okay....i just hope that the reason their daughters are not going to the local schools is becuase htey are home-schooled.

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"According to Islam, girls should not go to public school."

I hope they training them well at home in the virtues of polygamy, so they don't complain if the men in the community want 5 wives apiece.

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"According to Islam, girls should not go to public school."

I hope they training them well at home in the virtues of polygamy, so they don't complain if the men in the community want 5 wives apiece.

Like Jim Jones and others.