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Active Member Location: wherever there is good food
Registered:: February 15, 2007
Posts: 10753
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Does anyone know if Nusrat was Shia? His grammatical constructs in the song are that followed by shia..salaamun instead of "al salaam"
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Junior Member Registered:: August 04, 2005
Posts: 2833
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I was told that in Suriname they put a chair in the center of the room during the milaad and they believe that the Prophet(saw) comes and sits amids them during the event...
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Active Member Location: wherever there is good food
Registered:: February 15, 2007
Posts: 10753
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This belief is quite widespread among indian muslims...like elijah coming at passover to Jewish houses...
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New Recruit Registered:: May 16, 2007
Posts: 208
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Dara..I did not say that we explain the Quran using persianized terms. I said that "Durood" means sending Salams/Salawat to the Prophet (SAW). |
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New Recruit Registered:: May 16, 2007
Posts: 208
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This is not widespread among Indian Muslims. I've attended huge Milaad gatherings with Indian Muslims and I have never witnessed this. Maybe its a specific group in Surinam that practices this. |
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New Recruit Registered:: May 16, 2007
Posts: 208
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Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Every one..have a nice weekend!! Rabbi Salli 'ala'l Habibi Muhammad Wa 'Ala'l Aali Man Humu'l Kuramau O Lord bless the beloved Muhammad And his family members who were (all) benevolent people |
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Active Member Registered:: February 28, 2005
Posts: 10102
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yep...i heard dis too...mar haa baa..mar haa baa... Rasool Allah... Subhan Allah |
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Active Member Location: wherever there is good food
Registered:: February 15, 2007
Posts: 10753
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I have attended and been privy to many complaints about this practice. Indian Muslims incorporate many of the beliefs of earlier religions into their views of Islam and the prophet... |
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Active Member Location: wherever there is good food
Registered:: February 15, 2007
Posts: 10753
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Cool. But the terms used in the ayah are somewhat different to what the Quranic term allows us to understand...in a society such as that to which the Prophet came, one had to be very careful..which is why, according to some jurists, there are hadith that say he asked specifically that the Muslims not do to him what the Christians did to Jesus. |
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Active Member Registered:: February 28, 2005
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Do not stand for me like what the christians did to the son of Mary. |
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Active Member Registered:: February 28, 2005
Posts: 10102
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Bhai one time i been to a wedding and i carry the dullaha..and we talking but standing up during the Milaad and i told him dat i will not stand up cause i don't think it's Islamic. Bamm wedding in full session and there come the part wen every baddy had to stand up...laad have mercy...mee and the dullaha plat ah bee foot and sid dung fu real bro....Laad every baddy VEX..dem want fu beat me up...waz one big story in the place.I had soo much fun dat day. |
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Active Member Location: wherever there is good food
Registered:: February 15, 2007
Posts: 10753
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U raas too wutliss. I don't go for standing up. But one has to ask: is standing in our culture the same as it is for arabs? Yet we have the hadith wehre the prophet stood for a Jewish corpse. Contradiction. If by standing we mean no worship, I would. But i raas don't stand for no milaad and all that. Why they have to make that part of the wedding? That is friggin madness. I hope they had good curry.
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Elite Member Location: Homeless in New York, Lil ABC dropout!
Registered:: March 22, 1999
Posts: 23078
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I does lay down and sing!
It bettah fuh the lungs!! |
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Junior Member Registered:: June 07, 2000
Posts: 2580
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If dem min drap lil crotten oil in the curry, you wudda see how fast ayyo stand and run fu the latchrin. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Abu Jihad, |
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Member Location: Every action is judged by intention - Muhammad
Registered:: April 04, 2005
Posts: 9793
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If you want the darood, listen to the master here. Give it a few seconds till the first guy finish whatever he was saying. Rafi playing it safe. He went to tauheed first then tazeem. :))
But he got the most golden voice I have ever had the honor of hearing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57grJEjaDzw |
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Moderator Location: USA
Registered:: September 22, 2004
Posts: 18484
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In the Colonialist time, when assembling was not permitted by the Colonial Masters, was celebration of the Holy Prophet's Birthday a ploy for the Muslim community to meet together thus strengthening Islam? As of the time we knew that no other religion was permitted to be practiced but one.
And at one time in order to get certain jobs, with the Govt, or to be in the Public Service, one has to be in certain religion to be qualified. There has to be a reason why our fore parent started this trend, of course it originated from India or where ever they came from, but initially, there has to be some reason, and why if it is un Islamic, why was it allowed to continue all these gazillion of years. . |
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Member Location: Every action is judged by intention - Muhammad
Registered:: April 04, 2005
Posts: 9793
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Dulaha big enuff fuh get marrid but cyant set de agenda fuh he weddin. Whah kina rass iz dat? :)) |
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New Recruit Location: surfing the guyananet
Registered:: January 17, 2008
Posts: 83
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i ve copies of his live singing on cd/s
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Member Location: Every action is judged by intention - Muhammad
Registered:: April 04, 2005
Posts: 9793
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Thanks to asjbhai's kindness, I do also. That rendition "O duniya ke rakhwale" is powerful. Over 7 minutes long with some great voice control and long notes. Rafi is in a class of his own. |
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Active Member Location: wherever there is good food
Registered:: February 15, 2007
Posts: 10753
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The indians did not start the practice of the milaad. They just added stuff. It is possible that the assembly idea was part of it. But remember that a wrong practice may continue even if it is scripturally incorrect. The instittuins of Judaism, Christianiy and Islam are all replete with practices that under any thorough analysis would have to be considered heretical. Did Jesus ever wear those robes and advocate the ideas of Paul? did Muhammad ever want his followers to embark on the vengeful forays that they have become noted for? Did Jesus preach war? I won't even touch upon the judaic innovations... |
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