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Phagwah is on Sunday March 04, 2007



Rang Barse

Happy Phagwah greetings.
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Holi Ke Din Dil - Sholay
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Mal De Gulal - Kaamchor
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Holi Greetings to all who's celebratin

Mits, start a tred pon social since we cyant post pics in de chuch forum. It's allowed dere
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Phagwah is a very nice and colurful event,to all who are celebrating have a happy and enjoyful Holi.
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Do me a favor lets play holi....

Let's Play Holi
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Koi Bheega Hai Rang Se
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Holi Song From Baghban
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happy pagwah - enjoy!
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Mitwah, I am disgusted and very annoyed that them socalled Religious Leaders are more concerned with how much they receive for a Jhandi or Khata than the correct date for Phagwa. I am not surprise that young people are not interested in their Hypocrisy.
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Mitwah, I am disgusted and very annoyed that them socalled Religious Leaders are more concerned with how much they receive for a Jhandi or Khata than the correct date for Phagwa. I am not surprise that young people are not interested in their Hypocrisy.


Nehru, I am not a pandit. I have never heard of this problem. That's not to say that some of these guys are not avaricious. Our Hindu community is small and word gets around very fast. Pandits should not set fees nor are their fees regulated. Some hold down jobs and some do it full time. They do have a family to feed and most depend on the generosity of their devotees. This is called dakshna and it's a belief system that you recive special blessings for the Lord to give you the means to be able to provide for these occasions and humanity as a whole.

Like the pandits, I am invited with my Kirtan group to participate at many functions. We do not set a price or will never ask for compensation. We consider this as our sewa to dharam. People in our community are very generous.

With respect to arty, see the meaning of the song Jyot se Jyot on the Mukesh thread. Personally, I only put money (donation) when it comes around in the temples or if I know that the money is going towards a good cause. Otherwise, I will offer a petal and take my blessings.

These bad apples could be pointed out to the pandits council in your area.

Could you PM me their names and contact info?
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Mitwah, My point was that how De Hell they cannot get the Date correct!!!They announced Dat Phagwa will be Celebrated on March 3 and then the very last moment said OOps we are sorry it is Mar 4. Dat is what is Pissing me Off. I am not blaming all Religious Leaders. As Bob Marler said, "Who Da Cap fit let Dem wear it"
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Mitwah, I am not going to name names but their are Pandits who will make excuses not to do your Jhandi a second time if they were not satisfied with your Fees the first time.
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Mitwah, My point was that how De Hell they cannot get the Date correct!!!They announced Dat Phagwa will be Celebrated on March 3 and then the very last moment said OOps we are sorry it is Mar 4. Dat is what is Pissing me Off. I am not blaming all Religious Leaders. As Bob Marler said, "Who Da Cap fit let Dem wear it"


We don't have that problem in Ontario. I am guessing some people wants to tie it in with India which is further East. Purnima (Full Moon) is 6:17 PM Saturday, March 3. Burning of Holika is done on this day and Phagwah is celebrated the next day.
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Mitwah, I am not going to name names but their are Pandits who will make excuses not to do your Jhandi a second time if they were not satisfied with your Fees the first time.


This is adharmic and they should be exposed. Most people would give $100 - $150. I do know of others who would pay the passage to fly in their favorite priest and pay a $1000. There is even people in Guyana and T'dad who would sponsor Yajnas and fly in pandits and comepnsate heavily. It's up to the affordabilty of the individual.
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For all of those who posted the beautiful songs..thank you. Happy Holi. JS..for you too.
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Originally posted by khaleel:
For all of those who posted the beautiful songs..thank you. Happy Holi. JS..for you too.


how come SuperMike hasnt brought out the verse he loves to quote, as yet...???
This islamic scholar wishing we a happy holi...and SM remains silent???????
Or does he( SM) only have problem when a muslim greets a Christian with merry christmas...
Like the Doc have SM tongue-tied ...or confused???

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Happy Phagwah to all my Hindu sisters and brothers also to all who enjoy this wonderful festival, may Lord Krishna shower his blessing on you and your family.
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Seema, you waan dem kill me nuh? Simply for comparison..one can assess themes. The rescue of bhakta from the fire is almost like the rescue of Abraham from the fire. Just a point. Not trying to start an argument. Same goes for birth of buddha and Jesus.
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Seema, you waan dem kill me nuh?


Not at all Doc!

Maybe the reverse...hehehehehe...
c?.. now i'm being wutliss...lol

Nah..dis bai Supermike made a claim that Muslims ought not to wish folks "merry Christmas'...the guy backed up his claim by posting a verse..dont know
if it was from the Q'uran or
not..was searching for the thread, but can't find it...

So SM..pls repost that verse and let the 'DOCTA SCHOLAR' translate the original arabic..and interpret it for us..thank you

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Originally posted by khaleel:
Seema, you waan dem kill me nuh?


Not at all Doc!

Maybe the reverse...hehehehehe...
c?.. now i'm being wutliss...lol

Nah..dis bai Supermike made a claim that Muslims ought not to wish folks "merry Christmas'...the guy backed up his claim by posting a verse..dont know
if it was from the Q'uran or
not..was searching for the thread, but can't find it...

So SM..pls repost that verse and let the 'DOCTA SCHOLAR' translate the original arabic..and interpret it for us..thank you


I do remember this post. Anyway here is Ustad Sultan Khan And Ustad Zakir Hussain doing a classical Rajahstani Holi Song on Sirangi and tabla.

Classical Holi Song
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It does not matter which verse whoever comes with....there is NOTHING in the Qur'an that justifies the nonsense he was advocating. I can't think of any verse, hence I can't even bring up one and respond to it. WE ALL KNOW that Jesus was not born on DEC 25. The date was chosen becaue of its significance in Roman Pagan Religion. But if we hit out at the Xians for their lack of accuracy, they can hit back asking us to prove Muhammad was born when we say he was. We cannot. Hence, from the logic of Xmas being wrong because of the historical unreliability of the date, so too is Yawn Mawlid an nabi.
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Originally posted by seema:
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Originally posted by khaleel:
Seema, you waan dem kill me nuh?


Not at all Doc!

Maybe the reverse...hehehehehe...
c?.. now i'm being wutliss...lol

Nah..dis bai Supermike made a claim that Muslims ought not to wish folks "merry Christmas'...the guy backed up his claim by posting a verse..dont know
if it was from the Q'uran or
not..was searching for the thread, but can't find it...

So SM..pls repost that verse and let the 'DOCTA SCHOLAR' translate the original arabic..and interpret it for us..thank you
dara shikoh
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But Mitwah, you and seema got me curious now...gimme the post nah? I may not be able to respond for a few days as I will be in FL. When I am on the road, to keep my mind focused on what I am doing, I don't check email too much.
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Originally posted by seema:
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Originally posted by khaleel:
Seema, you waan dem kill me nuh?


Not at all Doc!

Maybe the reverse...hehehehehe...
c?.. now i'm being wutliss...lol

Nah..dis bai Supermike made a claim that Muslims ought not to wish folks "merry Christmas'...the guy backed up his claim by posting a verse..dont know
if it was from the Q'uran or
not..was searching for the thread, but can't find it...

So SM..pls repost that verse and let the 'DOCTA SCHOLAR' translate the original arabic..and interpret it for us..thank you


I do remember this post. Anyway here is Ustad Sultan Khan And Ustad Zakir Hussain doing a classical Rajahstani Holi Song on Sirangi and tabla.

Classical Holi Song
seema
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It does not matter which verse whoever comes with....there is NOTHING in the Qur'an that justifies the nonsense he was advocating. I can't think of any verse, hence I can't even bring up one and respond to it. WE ALL KNOW that Jesus was not born on DEC 25. The date was chosen becaue of its significance in Roman Pagan Religion. But if we hit out at the Xians for their lack of accuracy, they can hit back asking us to prove Muhammad was born when we say he was. We cannot. Hence, from the logic of Xmas being wrong because of the historical unreliability of the date, so too is Yawn Mawlid an nabi. [QUOTE]Originally posted by seema:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by khaleel:
Seema, you waan dem kill me nuh?



Doc...i dont recall the verse at all..but it had something to do with muslims not associating themselves with ???non-muslims( there is a 'name' used here for non-muslims...
Christmas has been long gone...so i dont remember the actual verse/msg)
The point is not about Jesus' bday...SM's problem was muslims greeting others with 'merry christmas'!!

about dec 25th..as far as i know..it's not the birthDAY of Jesus that Christians celebrate but rather the BIRTH of Jesus ...i have never been told that Jesus was BORN on Dec 25th, althoughiI am quite aware that some folks beleive this..even some Christians
i'm not that much into religion and dont know a whole lot...

the only reason i'm asking about what SuperMike posted is because I didnt understand what he claimed ... simply because I have many Muslim relatives and friends (including clerics/imams/missionaries) and they have never conveyed this message to me...reading that verse botheredme a bitbecause i was wodnering if this ishow my frenz and family felt being around me as a non-muslim)

I am asking YOU DOC, because YOU r knowlegable in the origingal language of the Q'uran and i wanted to know what this particular verse actually means or refers to..

again..i should mention that i am not sure if the verse he quoted from was from the Q'uran

Where is SuperM and why isnt he posting the verse he quoted ???? Maybe he is bz for the weekend..solet's wait until he has times to read this thread!

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seema
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Originally posted by khaleel:
It does not matter which verse whoever comes with....there is NOTHING in the Qur'an that justifies the nonsense he was advocating. I can't think of any verse, hence I can't even bring up one and respond to it. WE ALL KNOW that Jesus was not born on DEC 25. The date was chosen becaue of its significance in Roman Pagan Religion. But if we hit out at the Xians for their lack of accuracy, they can hit back asking us to prove Muhammad was born when we say he was. We cannot. Hence, from the logic of Xmas being wrong because of the historical unreliability of the date, so too is Yawn Mawlid an nabi.
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Originally posted by seema:
quote:
Originally posted by khaleel:
Seema, you waan dem kill me nuh?


Not at all Doc!

Maybe the reverse...hehehehehe...
c?.. now i'm being wutliss...lol

Nah..dis bai Supermike made a claim that Muslims ought not to wish folks "merry Christmas'...the guy backed up his claim by posting a verse..dont know
if it was from the Qur'an or
not..was searching for the thread, but can't find it...

Here is what i recall SM saying (something to this effect:)

Muslims r instructed not to join the Kuffars/Kuffirs(??) in their celebrations but they they should stick to their celebrations that Allah gave to them ..he also said that muslims must stay away from these celebrations of the kuffars/kuffirs(i dont recall the exact term he used)


So SM..pls repost that verse and let the 'DOCTA SCHOLAR' translate the original arabic..and interpret it for us..thank you
seema
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Doc..is what u did to Supermike..u chase deman away from de forum or what.....

now wha u gaan and do dat for??
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