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<Jansher>
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The days are pretty quiet. Restaurants and coffee shops are all closed. Eating and smoking in public is prohibited for Muslims. Muslims Smoking for example in public can lead to a fine. All liqor stores are closed this month and supermarkets that carry liqor remove it from shelves during this time. Only non-muslim can buy it during this time and that a long proccess i hear from expats. School and university cafeterias are all closed. At iftar time the place is buzzing until 4 am. Its a wonderful day so far, 11:19am here in Morcocco, zuhr namaz soon approaching, the azan is loud always.

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I am curious of your spelling "Ramadhan". I see many others write "Ramadan". I checked Wiki and found this (رمضان, Ramaḍān) which would make the pronunciation of the d with the dot below pronounced as "Z". Hence Ramazaan.

Just a side comment that I heard elsewhere. Rama is the Hindu avatar for Vishnu and dhan is wealth/gift, whereas daan is to give... Is there any bearings here?
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I am curious of your spelling "Ramadhan". I see many others write "Ramadan". I checked Wiki and found this (رمضان, Ramaḍān) which would make the pronunciation of the d with the dot below pronounced as "Z". Hence Ramazaan.

Just a side comment that I heard elsewhere. Rama is the Hindu avatar for Vishnu and dhan is wealth/gift, whereas daan is to give... Is there any bearings here?


I am also curious about the variations in spelling this word-Ramadan-dhan-ramzaan-which represents a big section of the world's population.
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Ramadan is derived from the Arabic word ar-ramad which means "parched thirst." Ramadan is also the name of the ninth month of the Islamic calendar.

http://www.islamawareness.net/Calendar/Ramadan/qanda.html
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Originally posted by julie:
I am curious of your spelling "Ramadhan". I see many others write "Ramadan". I checked Wiki and found this (رمضان, Ramaḍān) which would make the pronunciation of the d with the dot below pronounced as "Z". Hence Ramazaan.


The first letter is 'ra' the second one is 'ma' the third one is 'dhaa' and the last one is 'n'

All together is 'ramadhaan'
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Originally posted by julie:
I am curious of your spelling "Ramadhan". I see many others write "Ramadan". I checked Wiki and found this (رمضان, Ramaḍān) which would make the pronunciation of the d with the dot below pronounced as "Z". Hence Ramazaan.


The first letter is 'ra' the second one is 'ma' the third one is 'dhaa' and the last one is 'n'

All together is 'ramadhaan'


i was going to say that Big Grin...

salaam bhai!

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salaam bhai!

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Wa alaikum assalaam. May Allah make your ramadhaan easy for you. Please give our salaam to your folks. Stay good and safe always.
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Originally posted by julie:
I am curious of your spelling "Ramadhan". I see many others write "Ramadan". I checked Wiki and found this (رمضان, Ramaḍān) which would make the pronunciation of the d with the dot below pronounced as "Z". Hence Ramazaan.


The first letter is 'ra' the second one is 'ma' the third one is 'dhaa' and the last one is 'n'

All together is 'ramadhaan'


Finally some light on this issue.
Thks.
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Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling for those in the dark like me and future gen. clever
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The days are pretty quiet. Restaurants and coffee shops are all closed. Eating and smoking in public is prohibited for Muslims. Muslims Smoking for example in public can lead to a fine. All liqor stores are closed this month and supermarkets that carry liqor remove it from shelves during this time. Only non-muslim can buy it during this time and that a long proccess i hear from expats. School and university cafeterias are all closed. At iftar time the place is buzzing until 4 am. Its a wonderful day so far, 11:19am here in Morcocco, zuhr namaz soon approaching, the azan is loud always.


What is the time difference for Algeria n NA??
4 hrs or more??
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Ramadan is derived from the Arabic word ar-ramad which means "parched thirst." Ramadan is also the name of the ninth month of the Islamic calendar.

http://www.islamawareness.net/Calendar/Ramadan/qanda.html

Thks Bk for the clarity.
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So Ram and Dan is in Morocco now. Big Grin
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Originally posted by Jansher:
The days are pretty quiet. Restaurants and coffee shops are all closed. Eating and smoking in public is prohibited for Muslims. Muslims Smoking for example in public can lead to a fine. All liqor stores are closed this month and supermarkets that carry liqor remove it from shelves during this time. Only non-muslim can buy it during this time and that a long proccess i hear from expats. School and university cafeterias are all closed. At iftar time the place is buzzing until 4 am. Its a wonderful day so far, 11:19am here in Morcocco, zuhr namaz soon approaching, the azan is loud always.


What is the time difference for Algeria n NA??
4 hrs or more??


I am back in Morocco, i was in algeria recently. Its now 10.04 here, maybe 5 hours ahead of you.
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Originally posted by julie:
I am curious of your spelling "Ramadhan". I see many others write "Ramadan". I checked Wiki and found this (رمضان, Ramaḍān) which would make the pronunciation of the d with the dot below pronounced as "Z". Hence Ramazaan.

Just a side comment that I heard elsewhere. Rama is the Hindu avatar for Vishnu and dhan is wealth/gift, whereas daan is to give... Is there any bearings here?


I am also curious about the variations in spelling this word-Ramadan-dhan-ramzaan-which represents a big section of the world's population.


IN Persian and her daughter language, Urdu, the Arabic D become Z, example in Ramazan, Eid ul Adha, or Eid ul Azha, Dohr or Zuhr,
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Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling for those in the dark like me and future gen. clever


Thats the problem when you translate Arabic or Persian into English. However when its written in Arabic, it is spelled only one way.
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Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling


why? RAMADAN is fine
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Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling for those in the dark like me and future gen. clever


Thats the problem when you translate Arabic or Persian into English. However when its written in Arabic, it is spelled only one way.


That is why I can not read the Qur'an transliterated. I have to read the Arabic text. It is easier fot me.
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Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling for those in the dark like me and future gen. clever


Thats the problem when you translate Arabic or Persian into English. However when its written in Arabic, it is spelled only one way.


That is why I can not read the Qur'an transliterated. I have to read the Arabic text. It is easier fot me.


NO doubt, its impossible to write arabic using the english alphabet.
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Originally posted by Jansher:
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Originally posted by RQ:
Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling for those in the dark like me and future gen. clever


Thats the problem when you translate Arabic or Persian into English. However when its written in Arabic, it is spelled only one way.


That is why I can not read the Qur'an transliterated. I have to read the Arabic text. It is easier fot me.


NO doubt, its impossible to write arabic using the english alphabet.


Same with most other languages. Hindi/Urdu is difficult to write in transliterated format.
easier to write in nagari text.
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Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling


why? RAMADAN is fine


If Arabic is the original language of the Koran, then the correct spelling of the word should be taught and sounded for all.
'd' into 'z'. that's all.
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JS

A bilingual dictionary in Hindi came out named
Khaliq Bari: which lists Persian (and sometimes Arabic and Turkish)equivalents of Hindi words and phrases. Might be handy for comparison and learning phrases. Plus understand the songs our brother J mentioned about cultural....

Did picked up a Hindi/Urdu phrase book in India.
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Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling


why? RAMADAN is fine


If Arabic is the original language of the Koran, then the correct spelling of the word should be taught and sounded for all.
'd' into 'z'. that's all.


then yuh'll need fi change mo than jus greeting cards
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As dem use fuh seh.....

Let sleeping dogs lie...

Should ah gone over to proverbs.....
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As dem use fuh seh.....

Let sleeping dogs lie...

Should ah gone over to proverbs.....


Its so peaceful, quiet and the air is crisp and cool at the moment. The souk opened at 12 noon today, at the time of zuhr namaz, all stood still and people made salah were ever they were. I got some fresh beef, lamb and fresh moroccan roti stuffed with cheese, and meat for iftar.

Masjid where i attend taraweh

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the pic shows the serenity....

I like deh houses.
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Masjids are well lit during this time. A masjid in Sharjah

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New Muslims Fasting for the first time


Faith will get us through, say new Muslims
By Alia Al Theeb, Staff Reporter
Published: September 13, 2007, 23:35


Dubai: New Muslims who started fasting for the first time in their lives, said it is difficult, but their faith in God and patience will help them get through it.

Gulf News met a number of new Muslims, some of whom embraced Islam on the first day of Ramadan. A Chinese family of three, mother, father and daughter who embraced Islam two months ago, said Ramadan is an experience although it has been difficult since it is the first time they have abstained from food and drink.

The 26-year-old daughter who chose Fatima as her name, told Gulf News through a translator, that she was feeling thirsty throughout the day and did not eat enough at suhoor because she is not used to eating at dawn.

Patience

Asma, the mother, said she was urging her daughter to eat enough food at dawn because she would not eat the entire day.

"However, I intended to fast and prayed to God to help us and give us the patience to fast," she said.

The family has been learning about Islam for the past two months and is set to go to Haj [pilgrimage] after one week. Although the family does not speak Arabic or English, they have been learning about Islam and Ramadan by reading booklets and attending lectures in Chinese.

Asma said she embraced Islam because she found it to be a clear religion which did not exploit people's feelings or money.

She said in China, she did not have any religion because most religious practices were based on exploiting people's feelings and their money.

"When I came here to work, I attended some religious lectures out of curiosity and read some books and realised that I have one God and I need to be a Muslim," she said.

Asma said she consulted with her husband Mousa and daughter Fatima who also started attending lectures and were convinced that they want to embrace Islam. Fatima said she is interested in learning Arabic which will make it easier for her to read the Quran.

For Amir, a Filipino who embraced Islam yesterday on the first day of Ramadan, the kindness and helpfulness of his Muslim colleagues was a reason behind him embracing Islam.

Amir has lived in the UAE for 18 years and worked as a vehicle technical engineer at Dubai Police where he observed Islamic teachings and practices and learned more about the religion from his colleagues.

After he pronounced his Islam at the Islamic Affairs and Charitable Activities Department yesterday, Amir was congratulated by a police sergeant who had brought him to the New Muslims Division when Amir told him he wanted to embrace Islam.

"Since I got up this morning, I have been fasting and hope to continue the entire month. When I was not a Muslim, I used to fast, but most of the times I broke the fast before completing the full month," Amir said.

He said he is very happy that he embraced Islam on the first day of the month of Ramadan.
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Can someone have the greeting cards ppl to change it to its correct spelling


why? RAMADAN is fine


If Arabic is the original language of the Koran, then the correct spelling of the word should be taught and sounded for all.
'd' into 'z'. that's all.

But RQ: the original arabic would be ramadan with a very hard D....this particular letter is said to be specific to the arabs, hence arabic is called "loghat al Daad".
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Arabic is arabic and urdu is urdu. Truism? well languag