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Hi fellow Berbician are Muslims permitted under Islamic laws to eat crabs ?
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Interesting question. According to the laws of Islam, Muslims may eat crabs. I assume your question however is not out of the blue since many guyanese Muslims opine differently being that the crab is essentially a scavenger. But the rule as it applies to food in Islam is that "the basic rule is permissibility." And since crab is not among the list of prohibited foods in the Q, it is okay.
Also, for those who rely on hadith, the first hadith in the section on "purification" is that" The prophet said concerning the sea: its water and food are okay." The hadith for water was not about consumption, but about use for ritual purification; the food part basically means any sea creature is okay.
Some Muslims will not eat shark because the arabic for it is "sea dog"...and dogs are forbidden for food in Islam, hence the illogical connection...
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Same goes for shrimp, clams etc..many Muslims will not eat them.
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Interesting question. According to the laws of Islam, Muslims may eat crabs. I assume your question however is not out of the blue since many guyanese Muslims opine differently being that the crab is essentially a scavenger. But the rule as it applies to food in Islam is that "the basic rule is permissibility." And since crab is not among the list of prohibited foods in the Q, it is okay.
Also, for those who rely on hadith, the first hadith in the section on "purification" is that" The prophet said concerning the sea: its water and food are okay." The hadith for water was not about consumption, but about use for ritual purification; the food part basically means any sea creature is okay.
Some Muslims will not eat shark because the arabic for it is "sea dog"...and dogs are forbidden for food in Islam, hence the illogical connection...


Dara...based on this fatwa of yours i will go back to nyamming crab..laad i man de missing out pun dis fu soooo long rass.
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Same goes for shrimp, clams etc..many Muslims will not eat them.


Limer Bhai...do you eat crab???
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Same goes for shrimp, clams etc..many Muslims will not eat them.


Limer Bhai...do you eat crab???


I don't...but not because of religious reasons. As the prof indicated, they are halal. I jest doan like the thing...

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How about labba, is it Halal? A certain GNI berbician not sure if he ok to continue eating bhungal bush rat. :-))
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Interesting question. According to the laws of Islam, Muslims may eat crabs. I assume your question however is not out of the blue since many guyanese Muslims opine differently being that the crab is essentially a scavenger. But the rule as it applies to food in Islam is that "the basic rule is permissibility." And since crab is not among the list of prohibited foods in the Q, it is okay.
Also, for those who rely on hadith, the first hadith in the section on "purification" is that" The prophet said concerning the sea: its water and food are okay." The hadith for water was not about consumption, but about use for ritual purification; the food part basically means any sea creature is okay.
Some Muslims will not eat shark because the arabic for it is "sea dog"...and dogs are forbidden for food in Islam, hence the illogical connection...


Dara...based on this fatwa of yours i will go back to nyamming crab..laad i man de missing out pun dis fu soooo long rass.

Hool on paad. Not so fas. I gun be up in your neck of the woods from mid July. We gun nyam it together.
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Same goes for shrimp, clams etc..many Muslims will not eat them.

True. some will use the Hebrew Bible verses as in "shariat man qablanaa"..the shariah of those who came before us...
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How about labba, is it Halal? A certain GNI berbician not sure if he ok to continue eating bhungal bush rat. :-))


Again a cogent question even though you may have meant it in fun. Many Muslims associate the prohibition against swine to mean that anything re the family is forbidden. That is actually not according to the text. The pig is prohibited for no clear reason, but the restriction is for pig only. NOt pig cousin, if indeed the labba be that. Or course, the labba might qualify/disqualify under other restrictive elements outlined in the verses on forbidden food.
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Imam Shafi had a whole discussion on porcupine...and basically said it is halaal. I really don't want to try it.
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I am sort of surprised that PP did not ask about if we can eat cyat.
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by dara shikoh:
Interesting question. According to the laws of Islam, Muslims may eat crabs. I assume your question however is not out of the blue since many guyanese Muslims opine differently being that the crab is essentially a scavenger. But the rule as it applies to food in Islam is that "the basic rule is permissibility." And since crab is not among the list of prohibited foods in the Q, it is okay.
Also, for those who rely on hadith, the first hadith in the section on "purification" is that" The prophet said concerning the sea: its water and food are okay." The hadith for water was not about consumption, but about use for ritual purification; the food part basically means any sea creature is okay.
Some Muslims will not eat shark because the arabic for it is "sea dog"...and dogs are forbidden for food in Islam, hence the illogical connection...


Dara...based on this fatwa of yours i will go back to nyamming crab..laad i man de missing out pun dis fu soooo long rass.

Hool on paad. Not so fas. I gun be up in your neck of the woods from mid July. We gun nyam it together.


Professa..just let me know when you touching down in my woods so i can go out of town during that same time :-) :-)....naa ah juss joking bro...let me know so we can get to meet each other.
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by limer:
Same goes for shrimp, clams etc..many Muslims will not eat them.


Limer Bhai...do you eat crab???


I don't...but not because of religious reasons. As the prof indicated, they are halal. I jest doan like the thing...


Bhai i man used fu lash up that thing back in the days ( in Leguan) we used to cook it in a big kaharee wid coconut milk and i doze put down wan eating fu real bro.Didn't miss it anyway.How are you me broda? my sallam to you and yours bro.
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How about labba, is it Halal? A certain GNI berbician not sure if he ok to continue eating bhungal bush rat. :-))


Andre...bunjal labba is good stuff bro.
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Limer, Super M: here is a good food law to memorize: al asl fi'l ashyaa al ibaaha..the governing rule (in things) is permissibility.
The Q works on a different legal system from the Bible for the most part: in the former, GOd has to FORBID something clearly, otherwise it is halaal. While the bible does not present a counter philosophy, the early Jewish theologians, based on the ten commandments, basically said that if something is ALLOWABLE< then God has to so dictate. Hence the obsession with commandments and proscriptions. 613 of them.
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I am sort of surprised that PP did not ask about if we can eat cyat.


what is the verdict on cyat? is it haram?
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I am sort of surprised that PP did not ask about if we can eat cyat.


what is the verdict on cyat? is it haram?


Very halal from where I stand!! :-)
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Originally posted by dara shikoh:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
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Originally posted by dara shikoh:
Interesting question. According to the laws of Islam, Muslims may eat crabs. I assume your question however is not out of the blue since many guyanese Muslims opine differently being that the crab is essentially a scavenger. But the rule as it applies to food in Islam is that "the basic rule is permissibility." And since crab is not among the list of prohibited foods in the Q, it is okay.
Also, for those who rely on hadith, the first hadith in the section on "purification" is that" The prophet said concerning the sea: its water and food are okay." The hadith for water was not about consumption, but about use for ritual purification; the food part basically means any sea creature is okay.
Some Muslims will not eat shark because the arabic for it is "sea dog"...and dogs are forbidden for food in Islam, hence the illogical connection...


Dara...based on this fatwa of yours i will go back to nyamming crab..laad i man de missing out pun dis fu soooo long rass.

Hool on paad. Not so fas. I gun be up in your neck of the woods from mid July. We gun nyam it together.


Professa..just let me know when you touching down in my woods so i can go out of town during that same time :-) :-)....naa ah juss joking bro...let me know so we can get to meet each other.

Doan worry..l'll let u know. I gonna be in herndon.
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Originally posted by dara shikoh:
I am sort of surprised that PP did not ask about if we can eat cyat.


what is the verdict on cyat? is it haram?


Very halal from where I stand!! :-)

Ovamaak halal.
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Dara thank you for your explanation....the question was prompted because a Jewish acquaintance of mine said that it was forbidden in his religion to eat crabs....I read somewhere that there were general similarities between "kosher" and "halal" so I thought that Muslims might have been forbidden to eat crabs also.....

Several Guyanese muslims mentioned to me that they do not eat crabs whilst others really enjoy the dish.....after careful thought on the topic I would like to ask do crabs really come from the sea or from the mudhole?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dara shikoh:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SuperMike:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dara shikoh:

Professa..just let me know when you touching down in my woods so i can go out of town during that same time :-) :-)....naa ah juss joking bro...let me know so we can get to meet each other.

Doan worry..l'll let u know. I gonna be in herndon.


Well if you want fu see me yu have to send me a check fu $50 bucks...it gun tek a full tank a gas rass fu come till dey fu juss see you....ah waiting fu the check dara.
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PJ is my accountant. U gotta check wid he...
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PJ is my accountant. U gotta check wid he...


wen lass yu check yu account?? PJ muss E drink out haff ah yu money...betta check...ah hear he dee sporting wid sweetfig and dem and the man did most of the buying.
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Dem bin spending the money that chief asked them to invest in a halaal account for zakaat.