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God is one in many forms.


So if someone decides to worship a shoe as god , is it god in another form ? :confused:


It's all make believe (like Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny) so who cares what you want to make your god(s).
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I had a Professor who was also a pandit. He said there were 10,000 gods.
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Terry: when these professors talk, they do so on different levels, sometimes unconscious of the perception of their listener. For him a "god" is something different to what it means for a muslim. If he does not realize this, it will lead to problems.
I am going to assume your use of the term "professor" is significant and indicates a person with a PH. D, probably tenured or on t.track. Why? Because many colleges will hire any one to teach as a LECTURER...and if he is a pandit, they will assume he is on a western level of religion scholarship. It might not be. Ex: the americans in their rush to hire language/cultural instructors of arabic for Irq soliders hired any jackass who could speak arabic. Result: these same asses were also asked to teach US soldiers about Islam! And among them were some fanatics who taught a lot of crap...
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It's all make believe (like Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny) so who cares what you want to make your god(s).[/QUOTE]

Jesus IS real , not make believe .

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It's all make believe (like Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny) so who cares what you want to make your god(s).


Jesus IS real , not make believe .


Correction, WAS real. He died eons ago. The story about him rising up 3 days later, uniting with his heavenly father and merging into a three headed god makes for good nancy stories to fool the gullible.
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Originally posted by James:
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Originally posted by André:
It's all make believe (like Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny) so who cares what you want to make your god(s).


Jesus IS real , not make believe .


Correction, WAS real. He died eons ago. The story about him rising up 3 days later, uniting with his heavenly father and merging into a three headed god makes for good nancy stories to fool the gullible.


You will one day meet the LIVING CHRIST who reigns forever ...

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Originally posted by André:
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Originally posted by James:
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Originally posted by André:
It's all make believe (like Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny) so who cares what you want to make your god(s).


Jesus IS real , not make believe .


Correction, WAS real. He died eons ago. The story about him rising up 3 days later, uniting with his heavenly father and merging into a three headed god makes for good nancy stories to fool the gullible.


You will one day meet the LIVING CHRIST who reigns forever ...


When is duh? When fowl kak get teeth? I think I'll meet with Elvis and Tupac before JC. :-))
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bai , one day every knee will worship him ..
thats all I am saying ...the greatest glory is for those who seek him now !
Jesus is Lord , the beginning and the ending ..
I don't want to dishonor forum rules by impressing my religion upon you - I respect your point of view as incorrect as it is about the living God.

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bai , one day every knee will worship him ..
thats all I am saying ...the greatest glory is for those who seek him now !
Jesus is Lord , the beginning and the ending ..
I don't want to dishonor forum rules by impressing my religion upon you - I respect your point of view as incorrect as it is about the living God.


I'll be dead long before I worship anyone. I don't worship living people much less dead ones. I man nah believe in jumbies even if is a holy ghost. You have your beliefs and that's cool but nah try fuh impose it pun me. You and anyone else can believe in all the angels, ghosts, jins, jumbies, gods or goblins you feel like. But nah ask me fuh believe is dese tings. It's been ages since I believed that Santa Claus was real.

Seeing that you claim to be a scientist and know about genetics and dis molecular stuff, why don't you explain in scientific terms how a dead man can come back to life a few days later and form some kinda three headed being wid he father and a jumbie. Or maybe yuh want fuh tell meh how an immaculate conception is possible without a father providing some sperm. Until you can explain these things scientifically, I'll continue to believe that they are simply nancy stories.
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Dre, i gotto say:

YOU TEARIN TAIL

YOU DA MAN!!! yes SIR ( salutes)
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Originally posted by James:
bai , one day every knee will worship him ..
thats all I am saying ...the greatest glory is for those who seek him now !
Jesus is Lord , the beginning and the ending ..
I don't want to dishonor forum rules by impressing my religion upon you - I respect your point of view as incorrect as it is about the living God.




Seeing that you claim to be a scientist and know about genetics and dis molecular stuff, why don't you explain in scientific terms how a dead man can come back to life a few days later and form some kinda three headed being wid he father and a jumbie. Or maybe yuh want fuh tell meh how an immaculate conception is possible without a father providing some sperm. Until you can explain these things scientifically, I'll continue to believe that they are simply nancy stories.


You are right . Science is unable to PROVE the fact that Christ IS King . A true scientist believing in an entinty thats beyond "earthly" quantification should speak volumes of the power of the holy spirit . The beauty about being Christian lies precisely in the failure of the scenarios you posited as a requirement .
We live by FAITH , not by sight .
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by the way Andre , miracles do exist such as spontaneous healing from Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis and even gliobastam multiforme which is a fatal tumor that claims life within 6 months.

Notwithsthanding satuated oxygen concetration , osygen gradient , pulmonary perfusin ,the very act of birth and taking the first breath is a miracle ..

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Originally posted by André:
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Originally posted by James:
bai , one day every knee will worship him ..
thats all I am saying ...the greatest glory is for those who seek him now !
Jesus is Lord , the beginning and the ending ..
I don't want to dishonor forum rules by impressing my religion upon you - I respect your point of view as incorrect as it is about the living God.




Seeing that you claim to be a scientist and know about genetics and dis molecular stuff, why don't you explain in scientific terms how a dead man can come back to life a few days later and form some kinda three headed being wid he father and a jumbie. Or maybe yuh want fuh tell meh how an immaculate conception is possible without a father providing some sperm. Until you can explain these things scientifically, I'll continue to believe that they are simply nancy stories.


You are right . Science is unable to PROVE the fact that Christ IS King . A true scientist believing in an entinty thats beyond "earthly" quantification should speak volumes of the power of the holy spirit . The beauty about being Christian lies precisely in the failure of the scenarios you posited as a requirement .
We live by FAITH , not by sight .


I admit that I do live by faith and trust in the Almighty too. I have faith and trust that the almighty dollar that I earn will be acceptable at the supermarket when I try to pay for my groceries thereby providing me with the sustenance that I need to survive. :-))

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by the way Andre , miracles do exist such as spontaneous healing from Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis and even gliobastam multiforme which is a fatal tumor that claims life within 6 months.

Notwithsthanding satuated oxygen concetration , osygen gradient , pulmonary perfusin ,the very act of birth and taking the first breath is a miracle ..


The act of birth and taking the first breath is a miracle brought about by the efforts and inputs that a mother AND a father put into it nine months earlier. Sorry to inform you but this is something that you should know as a scientist. Asexual reproduction is not possible in human beings.

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1. Asexual reproduction is not possible with human beings . True . But Jesus was born the son of the Living God.

2."The act of birth and taking the first breath is a miracle brought about by the efforts and inputs that a mother AND a father put into it nine months earlier. " - quote / Andre.

Allow me to correct you - the actions of the father and mother result in conception . I was referring to a complicated process at delivery of reversal of oxygen flow and pulmonary dynamics . It was my mistake to use it as an arguement since the average person isn't concerned with the physiological mechanisms involved ..i go off on science tangents at times since I deal mostly with biomedical people and the jargon is interwined with our language and thought processes.
In any event , Mr Andre I respect your opinion even though you are wrong about the one true god.
By the way , it may be a moot point to decide which processes qualify as a mircale ..

the best scientist of all time said it best :

There are two ways to live your life - one is as though nothing is a miracle, the other is as though everything is a miracle -Albert Einstein

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1. Asexual reproduction is not possible with human beings . True . But Jesus was born the son of the Living God.

2."The act of birth and taking the first breath is a miracle brought about by the efforts and inputs that a mother AND a father put into it nine months earlier. " - quote / Andre.

Allow me to correct you - the actions of the father and mother result in conception . I was referring to a complicated process at delivery of reversal of oxygen flow and pulmonary dynamics . It was my mistake to use it as an arguement since the average person isn't concerned with the physiological mechanisms involved ..i go off on science tangents at times since I deal mostly with biomedical people and the jargon is interwined with our language and thought processes.
In any event , Mr Andre I respect your opinion even though you are wrong about the one true god.
By the way , it may be a moot point to decide which processes qualify as a mircale ..

the best scientist of all time said it best :

There are two ways to live your life - one is as though nothing is a miracle, the other is as though everything is a miracle -Albert Einstein


You don't have to "correct" me as nothing I've said is incorrect. I'm just referring to a process that takes place a lot earlier than birth which is absolutely necessary before any human birth can occur. I'm wondering if Jesus was the first baby conceived by IVF and who was the sperm donor. Does that make Louise Brown a Goddess a few centuries later? Can you please clarify? That gives me an idea. I think maybe I'll form my own religion now and call it Brownianity. In today's world of equal rights for females, we do need a goddess of the fairer sex.

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Andre Bai , yuh havin 2 fun much hay with dis discussion . Fuh me its like beating a dead horse ...wuts needed 2 b saids has been saids:)

Jesus is the SON of GOD , everything about himd disobeyed " mortal laws and principles " starting with his birth which was not biological ...that was just de start ..let see wut else did he do that non believers would need proof / explanation ?"

Turned water into wine ...i.e turning H20 into CH2O5
Fed 5000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish
Raised the dead ...i.e reveerting the course of rigortmortis and replacing a dead human with a living being
Healed the deaf , blind and dumb ...
Cast out evil spirits ... I actually have seen ths process of exorcism taking place with my own eyes and this solidifies my belief in the one true God . Yes someone like me who follows scientific principles acknowledging the existence of supernatural powers.
Replaced a detached human ear ( human ear )
Healed illness just by the power of someone touching his robe..
Walked on water
Quieted the storms and the tumultous seas
Appeared in person after being crucified ..

Boss , nobody , no mortal can even explain the beautiful mystery of GOD . You are barking up the wrong tree if you are seeking scientific explanations . There is none ..but you knew this .
I'm nothing , I live in submission to my all powerful God even though I am quite a sinner at times ... I am just a man , a simple man who fears only GOD ..
My many experiences , my encounters in travels and in the army and even eevryday life is filled with the workings of the LORD . I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for Jesus .
This is my testimony and I stand by it .

Everyone is free to believe whatever they choose . Don't expect scientific explanations .
The last word is yours if you choose to respond.

May God bless you :))

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Andre Bai , yuh havin 2 fun much hay with dis discussion . Fuh me its like beating a dead horse ...wuts needed 2 b saids has been saids:)

Jesus is the SON of GOD , everything about himd disobeyed " mortal laws and principles " starting with his birth which was not biological ...that was just de start ..let see wut else did he do that non believers would need proof / explanation ?"

Turned water into wine ...i.e turning H20 into CH2O5
Fed 5000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish
Raised the dead ...i.e reveerting the course of rigortmortis and replacing a dead human with a living being
Healed the deaf , blind and dumb ...
Cast out evil spirits ... I actually have seen ths process of exorcism taking place with my own eyes and this solidifies my belief in the one true God . Yes someone like me who follows scientific principles acknowledging the existence of supernatural powers.
Replaced a detached human ear ( human ear )
Healed illness just by the power of someone touching his robe..
Walked on water
Quieted the storms and the tumultous seas
Appeared in person after being crucified ..

Boss , nobody , no mortal can even explain the beautiful mystery of GOD . You are barking up the wrong tree if you are seeking scientific explanations . There is none ..but you knew this .
I'm nothing , I live in submission to my all powerful God even though I am quite a sinner at times ... I am just a man , a simple man who fears only GOD ..
My many experiences , my encounters in travels and in the army and even eevryday life is filled with the workings of the LORD . I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for Jesus .
This is my testimony and I stand by it .

Everyone is free to believe whatever they choose . Don't expect scientific explanations .
The last word is yours if you choose to respond.

May God bless you :))


These acts which you claim to be "miracles" are performed every day by doctors, illusionists and Benny Hinn. :-))
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