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<julie>
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view halloween, the pagan holiday?
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pagan

you answered the question in your question.
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view halloween, the pagan holiday?


What is Halloween and where did it come
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I was at a Hindu function last week end and the pundit was urging parents not to participate.

He said that hindu parents are teaching children that's the only time they knock on people's door and if they behave evily they will be rewarded with sweets and treats. And that the moslems don't celebrate this kind of evil and according to the scritures Hindus are not allowed.

At first, I agree with the sentiments but then I always saw halloween as being commercial where children dress up and get to eat candies.
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pagan

you answered the question in your question.

:-).
I don't celebrate it apart from the religious aspect..since some might rightfully state that its ritualistic origins are not present in its modern practice. I just view it as nonsense, and do not want to train my kids to go asking for stuff...and of course, the paranoia that I have as a father...what happens if the stuff is tainted? Pins and needles are one thing..what about poison?
What about someone in my neighborhod giving the kids tainted stuff..who do you think is the first person they will look at as a culprit?
IN Islam and in ANY OTHER RELIGION, the idea ought to be "don't do that which opens the door to self destruction".
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I went as Osama last night but got no candy only some rocks...
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what happens if the stuff is tainted? Pins and needles are one thing..what about poison?
What about someone in my neighborhod giving the kids tainted stuff..who do you think is the first person they will look at as a culprit?
IN Islam and in ANY OTHER RELIGION, the idea ought to be "don't do that which opens the door to self destruction".



Bai, like yuh live in a rough neighborhood. :)
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Originally posted by julie:
view halloween, the pagan holiday?


This so call "pagan" holiday is just a fun thing for children and adult alike.

People have an opportunity to display them selves as a character of an angel, evil, or what ever.

Now, to ask a Muslim view on it, you will hear 100 versions of lies.
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Dem bais give you ex-lax in a snickers bar when you went trick or treating last nite? (:-))
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Bai, like yuh live in a rough neighborhood. :)[/QUOTE]
Quite the opposite. But I never for a second forget that in an 'upper class' neighborhood, one simple accusation can bring out the worst in people, and you see the latent racism erupt into a raging holier than thou attitude. Dara got them figgered out. Behind all the fake smile and so on...

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Originally posted by Abu Jihad:
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pagan

you answered the question in your question.

:-).
I don't celebrate it apart from the religious aspect..since some might rightfully state that its ritualistic origins are not present in its modern practice. I just view it as nonsense, and do not want to train my kids to go asking for stuff...and of course, the paranoia that I have as a father...what happens if the stuff is tainted? Pins and needles are one thing..what about poison?
What about someone in my neighborhod giving the kids tainted stuff..who do you think is the first person they will look at as a culprit?
IN Islam and in ANY OTHER RELIGION, the idea ought to be "don't do that which opens the door to self destruction".


If was free food sharin out you rass woulda deh front uh de line wid yuh hand stretch out. :-))

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Quite the opposite. But I never for a second forget that in an 'upper class' neighborhood, one simple accusation can bring out the worst in people, and you see the latent racism erupt into a raging holier than thou attitude. Dara got them figgered out. Behind all the fake smile and so on...


On a serious note, I do understand your position perfectly. Can't disagree with you.
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If was free food sharin out you rass woulda deh front uh de line wid yuh hand stretch out. :-))[/QUOTE]
Actually, u hit closer to home than u think. I was down to 147 and went out of town for a few days at a hotel where there was eggs and hash browns every day for brekkie (I dont normally have anything but coffee for brek), and lunch two hours later with desserrt etc, and dinner with all the trappings, NOw I am up to 153 again. Free food is a bane. I think I need some mauby to swallow this fact.
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ANNAPOLIS, Md. -- Police in Annapolis have identified the 18-year-old man who was shot and killed Halloween night.

GNI trick or treater?
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ANNAPOLIS, Md. -- Police in Annapolis have identified the 18-year-old man who was shot and killed Halloween night.

GNI trick or treater?


Is jus innocent fun...:-(

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ANNAPOLIS, Md. -- Police in Annapolis have identified the 18-year-old man who was shot and killed Halloween night.

GNI trick or treater?


Is jus innocent fun...:-(



Are people murdered during the month of Ramadan?
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when they trick or treating, or eating?

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when they trick or treating, or eating?


When they leff Ramadan Friday prayers and go and launch two rocket over in Israel or explode two car bomb in Bhagdad.
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That is why we need to chill out on commenting on the problems in other communities because we have so many that we cannot defend ourselves when others responds. Lets try to clean our own house and atleast show some disgust for what our own are doing in the name of our noble religion.
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haloween is a dentist holiday
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Originally posted by Terry Ishmael:
ANNAPOLIS, Md. -- Police in Annapolis have identified the 18-year-old man who was shot and killed Halloween night.

GNI trick or treater?


Is jus innocent fun...:-(



Are people murdered during the month of Ramadan?


heheh..you're like glass, bai...can see rite thru u. Why don't u post a comment pertinent to the thread's subject.
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Muslims were given two days to celebrate and we should stick to just this...any other is out of the domain of Islam.
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Then we should stop reacting when others don't include us in their society/community/plans.
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I'm always grateful when I am not included...that way I don't have to do much 'splainin' ;-)

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I'm always grateful when I am not included...that way I don't have to do much 'splainin' ;-)


:)
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Then we should stop reacting when others don't include us in their society/community/plans.


This is just one of the problems this Ummah is so worried about, we are too worried and concern about what the society and community feels and thinks of us. We should be worried about empowering our own Muslim communities and then look to get involved in the other aspects of society. Fix our house first before we go out to look at others. I see the Masjids were very busy reaching out to non Muslim members of the community when we have so many of our own not attending the prayers. This is where we should be focusing all of attention to and do all we can to strengthen this Ummah? The politics is creeping into our deen.

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Originally posted by André:
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Originally posted by limer:
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Originally posted by Terry Ishmael:
ANNAPOLIS, Md. -- Police in Annapolis have identified the 18-year-old man who was shot and killed Halloween night.

GNI trick or treater?


Is jus innocent fun...:-(



Are people murdered during the month of Ramadan?


heheh..you're like glass, bai...can see rite thru u. Why don't u post a comment pertinent to the thread's subject.