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<Jansher>
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dara,
i am relating my story about that particular pandit in bush lot corentyne. i was skeptical myself but i went. the symptoms i had was gone after the man jarray me. this a real story.

next i will tell u about your neigbah losing dem cow and i went to see"ring" at some guy in port mourant(well that another story)


Do you remember the old folks like Kasi, Buttun and Ramlall?


i will ask my mother in law who is here by me. are the from bush lot?


Please do; these men were champions of Indian culture Ramlall and Kasi i know for sure were veggies hindus who spoke Hindi and were on the streets with loads of bush lot men singing Chowtals and celebrating Ramlilas. They also knew birahas. These traditions unfortunatley are over. Kasi had a Chourki on his head.
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We don't have any but I will ask my cousins - they hoarde all the pictures when my ajee died.


Could you send the picture to Jansher since we are building a pictoral museum of our ancestors.
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We don't have any but I will ask my cousins - they hoarde all the pictures when my ajee died.


Could you send the picture to Jansher since we are building a pictoral museum of our ancestors.


Okay, I am going to go and dig up some old albums and see what I have. Will keep you posted.
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much appreciated, as long as you don't mind that the old flicks would be part of a collection (of course credit would be given for the photos).
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much appreciated, as long as you don't mind that the old flicks would be part of a collection (of course credit would be given for the photos).


of course not - that's wonderful that you guys are doing this. It does bring back a lot of memories.
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well am a fan of Indo-Iranian civilization and i dont mind sporting a Pathani shalwar kameez like many of our Muslim ancestors; and am fond of persian/urdu poetry. Am taking persian lessons. Non of this is alien to us South Asian Muslims.



If u need to go to QOm, I can arrange it. As long as u know u will be fed theologically biased stuff.
when the persians entered islam, their impact on arabic poetry caused that time to be called 'al asr al dhahabi" of literature. Indian Royalty also spoke persian. Afghans also speak a very classical form I am told...some say it is better to learn from them. In which case, i can hook up a connexion in damascus for persian and arabic if you wish, in case you don't do the latter...


dam brother you got connection. I like to go do that in Shams... oh i love Syria. NO man am not into shia or sunni schism. Not into being fed hogwash.

you know i have very close connection to south asia; my mother was the first generation born in Suriname. Her came as an infant in 1916 on the last ship to Paramaribo. I have roots to Faizbad, Sultanpur and Mardhan. Many of them still hold thier language and ethnic dressing.


Forget about shia/sunni crap. If you want to study in al-sham..in damascus, I can arrange for you to do persian at the zeynabiyya in Damascus. Nice people. Crappy food, but dat is because is free. Can put u in contact with some Sunni thinkers. Not connections...just know some people. Plus my samdhins are syrians. neva met them. Don't know how dem does relate to Coolies. U know what I mean, I assume.
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dara,
i am relating my story about that particular pandit in bush lot corentyne. i was skeptical myself but i went. the symptoms i had was gone after the man jarray me. this a real story.

next i will tell u about your neigbah losing dem cow and i went to see"ring" at some guy in port mourant(well that another story)


I remember the cow story. Poor uncle JJ..when he first moved to Rose Hall and opened shop, them boys waited at night, and then augured their way into the kitchen, then to the story. The house had wooden walls only. Several times they hit him. Then they boys tried with his cows. But somehow, the man kept on surviving. I remember him cyar..hh965.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jansher:
Khal this is a relative of mine from Suriname

[Serene. When you ready for damascus, pleaes give me about 3-4 months head time. Gotta be arranged through the Shirazis. If you want Qom, about 4 months.
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Jansher: both shias and sunnis, as you know, have their sectarian nonsense. All you do is listen, stay quiet...and take what makes sense, leave that which does not. Does not pay to argue with these guys.
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of course not - that's wonderful that you guys are doing this. It does bring back a lot of memories.


its a slow process but hopefully we will compile enough that can tell stories (in pictures) of our forefathers. Anything you can get your hands on will be appreciated.

If any other GNIers also have old photos and do not mind sharing them please feel free to let either myself or Jansher know.
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BK, how old do the pics have to be?
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Chameli, anything prior to 1966 would be ideal.

I am sorry I should have included Kidmost as well.
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Here are the logies, above and you can see the indians in thier ethnic wear.
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I thought the logies were like little mud houses? dunno

I checked my old albums but don't have anything however my sister is going to Guyana next week I will ask her to rummage through our albums left back home to see if she can find anything to contribute.
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Jansher - that look like a flick from Suriname since their logies were built different than the ones in Guyana, still a gem though.

Rosita,

there were different kinds of logies - those that were originally built for the slaves (called ******yards logies) and the newer ones built for Indo (called bound-coolie yards). The later ones some had mudfloors.

Tell you sister to bring the albums back with her that way you have all them and don't have to worry that the pictures will be lost forever.
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Jansher - that look like a flick from Suriname since their logies were built different than the ones in Guyana, still a gem though.

Rosita,

there were different kinds of logies - those that were originally built for the slaves (called ******yards logies) and the newer ones built for Indo (called bound-coolie yards). The later ones some had mudfloors.

Tell you sister to bring the albums back with her that way you have all them and don't have to worry that the pictures will be lost forever.


Bk you are correct.

ROsita; logies are basically long houses. They were not built of mud but former slaves quarters as well.
<Jansher>
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This picture was taken in Suriname around 1895. Muslim students at Maktab
<BK>
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Jansher, could you verify the date that flick was taken? Nice.
<Jansher>
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A family after indentureship was over... about 1900, Suriname
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Jansher, could you verify the date that flick was taken? Nice.


1895. AM trying hard to get the source of that pic but i know for sure its 1895 since the date stuck in my head.

Arrival in Suriname at the immigration depot.
<Jansher>
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Tazia celebration, Suriname
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Jansher check this one out ~~~ it is not a myth that some of the Indians that return back to India were all decked out in their finest jewellery.


Bejewelled Indian woman returning as a paying passenger on board the S.S. Sheila, circa 1878.
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A young girl (circa 1870s)
<Jansher>
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Nice flicks... keep them coming. I lost a cite that i found some nice flicks. IT was in dutch.
<Jansher>
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Suriname 1903

BK burn these pics on a disc, thanks
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1903, suriname
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the above pic tell a lot about the culture and regional origin of these Indians.
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Bk i google images and found this one under logies, windsor forest, 1956
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logies, guyana


from guyana underseige
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Them bais a get one hair cut on estate.. lil time out from wuk

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where was the above picture taken?
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Hope I can spell this word ...dem ladies have on "rumal" or as my aji would have said "Kerchief" shucks as a little girl I use to watch her starch and iron all of them...and she had this little cloth bag with some kind of seed (one) she called her money bag and put it in her bosom.. wavey.gif
<Jansher>
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Boi just come from back dam... mud and staw house..
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Look how we people use to live.. even 1838,, the get am right
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They had style... hall you rass if you seh otherwise
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Look them bachas,,, dont forget May is Arrival Month



Note: the lota they are carrying,,, maybe just finishing throwing jal or going to? Definately these children were proud of their Hinduness.

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They worked hard but they were happy....healthy food and great envi. my aji lived until she was 90 and aja 95..and he use to pour some stiff rum with no chaser...
<Jansher>
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The Church worked hard to convert our ancestors, be proud of your names today...dontlet their sacrifces go to waste
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