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<Jansher>
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On my paternal side, our name Cheekhoree comes from the Indian State of Bihar. The name has been bastardized several times from Cheekhoree. Today it is spelled, Chickerie. However, we were aware of the original name since we were in possession of my grandfather's national Id and birth certificate. Through oral history, we knew that he came from Bihar and from the Ahir (caste). His immigration record confirms this oral history. My great grandfather Kalsingh Cheekhoree, ahir (caste) migrated to Guyana from Karagahar in the district of Shahabab, Bihar in 1891 on board the SS Sheila. He was indentured to plantation Rose Hall. Bhojpuri was his mother tongue. His father name was Mohit. At age 20 he came to Guyana. Cheekhoree was born in 1871 in Shahabad, Bihar, India. Today i hold the most precious connection to India, his immigration certificate which is in impeccable condition. Am third generation born outside of India from the Cheekhoree clan.

Its here at Buxar where he was registered to go to Guyana

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by googling, i found some people in Bihar, INdia and Mauritius with our Surname:
Bheesamsing Cheekhooree
Shaan Cheekhooree
Mr. luvee cheekhooree (Director
Suren Cheekhooree
Sunjay Cheekhoree
<Jansher>
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My great grandfather came to Guyana in 1891 on the ship SS Sheila at age 20 from Shahabad, Bihar and was indentured to PLN Rosehall.

This is a copy of his Immigration Pass which has been autenticated by the Guyana Ministry of Foreign Affairs.



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<Jansher>
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Birth Records 269 of one of Cheekhoree's daughter, Sunnicharia. Under section, father, the name of ship and date of arrival is recorded since he was from India.
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Another offspring of K. Cheekhoree, Babooram who was known as Teacher Babooram.



Again, taken from the GPO Birth Records of Berbice, 1899
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Offsprings of Kalsingh Cheekhoree, SS Sheila 1891

Dr. Sitalall Cheekhoree
D. Cheekooree
Babulall Cheekhoree
Babooram Cheekhoree
Mohit Cheekhoree
Sunicharia Cheekhoree
Babe Pooah
Ratulla Pooah

Eventually i hope to get their complete and correct names

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<BK>
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Jansher, what happen to the Madras connection Big Grin
watch out for the fireworks Big Grin
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Jansher:
I commend you on your recent accomplishment. Keep up the good work.
I had raised a few questions in an earlier post but got no response. I thought I should try my luck again.

1. Are the Indentureship records in Calcutta from where many of the immigrants departed?
2. Are any of these records in England?
3. Are the records at the Guyana archives on the internet? I guess not but I would like to confirm.

Best wishes.

Fred
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Fred,

the answer to your three questions is - no.
<Jansher>
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Fred,

the answer to your three questions is - no.


ALL, NO like BK said. All them coolies are just talking. They have gone to the gov. of Guyana and convince them that am not trustworthy, that am anti HIndu, anti PPP, Pro-PNC, Pro Roar and most recently Mr. Singh said that I want to make money from the Project. All the shyte they are saying comes back to me truthfully from people in the GOG. AM done and am not part of any offical project.
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ALL, NO like BK said. All them coolies are just talking. They have gone to the gov. of Guyana and convince them that am not trustworthy, that am anti HIndu, anti PPP, Pro-PNC, Pro Roar and most recently Mr. Singh said that I want to make money from the Project. All the shyte they are saying comes back to me truthfully from people in the GOG. AM done and am not part of any offical project.


and you forget to add that

1) Evans Persaud has been collecting money from people to search for their records (making profits from folks searching for their roots) when the intent of IDP was to make available the records online for all to search.

2) that Mr. Singh and company is planning to seek the help of your two Surinamese counterparts to help with their IDP project (after they "hi-jack IDP project document that was submitted to the government).

3) ....

the nerve of some Guyanese when they know fully well that all the proposals were what you came up with based on your discussions with the Surinamese.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
ALL, NO like BK said. All them coolies are just talking. They have gone to the gov. of Guyana and convince them that am not trustworthy, that am anti HIndu, anti PPP, Pro-PNC, Pro Roar and most recently Mr. Singh said that I want to make money from the Project. All the shyte they are saying comes back to me truthfully from people in the GOG. AM done and am not part of any offical project.


and you forget to add that

1) Evans Persaud has been collecting money from people to search for their records (making profits from folks searching for their roots) when the intent of IDP was to make available the records online for all to search.

2) that Mr. Singh and company is planning to seek the help of your two Surinamese counterparts to help with their IDP project (after they "hi-jack IDP project document that was submitted to the government).

3) ....

the nerve of some Guyanese when they know fully well that all the proposals were what you came up with based on your discussions with the Surinamese.


Evan said, "raymond c. will never get the project." He knew a lot. I wish them all luck.

BK keep up with our contacts please. Right now I am taking time out. You and Varuna can work them them lungerras.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
ALL, NO like BK said. All them coolies are just talking. They have gone to the gov. of Guyana and convince them that am not trustworthy, that am anti HIndu, anti PPP, Pro-PNC, Pro Roar and most recently Mr. Singh said that I want to make money from the Project. All the shyte they are saying comes back to me truthfully from people in the GOG. AM done and am not part of any offical project.


and you forget to add that

1) Evans Persaud has been collecting money from people to search for their records (making profits from folks searching for their roots) when the intent of IDP was to make available the records online for all to search.

2) that Mr. Singh and company is planning to seek the help of your two Surinamese counterparts to help with their IDP project (after they "hi-jack IDP project document that was submitted to the government).

3) ....

the nerve of some Guyanese when they know fully well that all the proposals were what you came up with based on your discussions with the Surinamese.


Lets wish them luck. Its good for all that they will preserve/digitalize the documents.
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Originally posted by Jansher:
Evan said, "raymond c. will never get the project." He knew a lot. I wish them all luck.

BK keep up with our contacts please. Right now I am taking time out. You and Varuna can work them them lungerras.


like you eye pass me nah!

let dem moutar put their money where their mouth is.

In retrospect you should have gone to the press with all the BS that has been going on, but you listen to Gail and what did she came up with nada, she gave her word and then she turn to be an "Indian giver".... knowing fully well that she was going to leave the Ministry of Culture to take up Ministry of Home Affairs position.

At least you have been vindicated, since it has been made public that Evans Persaud and company were the ones looking to make a profit off of the Indians.

I wish whoever it is that wants to "save" the records luck (but it look like they are all in it for the money).
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Originally posted by BK:
quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
Evan said, "raymond c. will never get the project." He knew a lot. I wish them all luck.

BK keep up with our contacts please. Right now I am taking time out. You and Varuna can work them them lungerras.


like you eye pass me nah!

let dem moutar put their money where their mouth is.

In retrospect you should have gone to the press with all the BS that has been going on, but you listen to Gail and what did she came up with nada, she gave her word and then she turn to be an "Indian giver".... knowing fully well that she was going to leave the Ministry of Culture to take up Ministry of Home Affairs position.

At least you have been vindicated, since it has been made public that Evans Persaud and company were the ones looking to make a profit off of the Indians.

I wish whoever it is that wants to "save" the records luck (but it look like they are all in it for the money).


I wish them luck!!
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by googling, i found some people in Bihar, INdia and Mauritius with our Surname:
Bheesamsing Cheekhooree
Shaan Cheekhooree
Mr. luvee cheekhooree (Director
Suren Cheekhooree
Sunjay Cheekhoree


What about the Chickorie fm Uitvlugt??
Any connections to them?? I think one of the fella or family in NY.
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Jansher, what happen to the Madras connection Big Grin
watch out for the fireworks Big Grin


oh that assh... he is just a hater who kept telling me that the name cheekhoree was tamil/madrasi.

RQ, only the chickeries from bush lot, corentyne are related. There were a few other cheekhoores who came to guyana from India. But you never know. I find a few in Mauritius as well. How is your research coming along?

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<BK>
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Jansher, it would be so embarrassing for Mr. Singh when he arrange to meet with your Surinamese counterparts -- saying himself - what is wrong with dese Indo-Guyanese people they can't seem to get their act together, when they know fully well your role in highlighting the plight of the deteriorating records.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
quote:
Originally posted by BK:
Jansher, what happen to the Madras connection Big Grin
watch out for the fireworks Big Grin


oh that assh... he is just a hater who kept telling me that the name cheekhoree was tamil/madrasi.

RQ, only the chickeries from bush lot, corentyne are related. There were a few other cheekhoores who came to guyana from India. But you never know. I find a few in Mauritius as well. How is your research coming along?


I have some more enquiries to make. had some cuz over last week fm ny, will link up with moe cuz fm DC in GY next mth if all goes well.
Do you know this guy fm Uitvlugt?

Who is Mr Singh??? Fm the info above, I can connect a few things. Did you see the BBC doc with Dabydeen about the reinvented salvery. The madrassee Jahajee he spoke with is my neighbor older sis. Spending quality time with the family. 2 other sisters alive.
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Originally posted by Jansher:
My great grandfather came to Guyana in 1891 on the ship SS Sheila at age 20 from Shahabad, Bihar and was indentured to PLN Rosehall.

This is a copy of his Immigration Pass which has been autenticated by the Guyana Ministry of Foreign Affairs.



My 20 ???

Did you find this doc on this recent trip to gy?
Did you take this pic with a digital camera??
I had heard that cameras were not allowed.
It is a good pic, clear n not smudged.Why the FA ministry to authenticate the docs? Necessary?

Lucky guy to have found your Ancestral links.
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Originally posted by BK:
Fred,

the answer to your three questions is - no.


ALL, NO like BK said. All them coolies are just talking. They have gone to the gov. of Guyana and convince them that am not trustworthy, that am anti HIndu, anti PPP, Pro-PNC, Pro Roar and most recently Mr. Singh said that I want to make money from the Project. All the shyte they are saying comes back to me truthfully from people in the GOG. AM done and am not part of any offical project.


When shyte is thrown at you, you throw it back!
When you are a "King", & your kingdom is attacked, you defend it with all you have, even if it means death; like 'Rani of Jhansi'.
You can resist by other means & win the war by engaging in smt strategies, like Alexander.
You are JanSher - fearless Lion - ROOOAAARRRRR!
<Jansher>
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quote:
Originally posted by RQ:
quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
quote:
Originally posted by BK:
Fred,

the answer to your three questions is - no.


ALL, NO like BK said. All them coolies are just talking. They have gone to the gov. of Guyana and convince them that am not trustworthy, that am anti HIndu, anti PPP, Pro-PNC, Pro Roar and most recently Mr. Singh said that I want to make money from the Project. All the shyte they are saying comes back to me truthfully from people in the GOG. AM done and am not part of any offical project.


When shyte is thrown at you, you throw it back!
When you are a "King", & your kingdom is attacked, you defend it with all you have, even if it means death; like 'Rani of Jhansi'.
You can resist by other means & win the war by engaging in smt strategies, like Alexander.
You are JanSher - fearless Lion - ROOOAAARRRRR!


Yes, I got this immigration certificate on this trip. Previously i was in possession of one which was not my great grandfather. Its the birth records of his children that let to this major achievment.

It was taken by a digital camera without flash. MY camera has a feature that lets me know when everything is in focus.

What can i say, I get all the scoupe from people in office. Right now am just going to hang low. I want to copyrigt... put my name on some historical documents i have before i put them on line. Do you know how i can do that, write over the pic?

I dont know much about Uitvult, but keep me abreast of what you know.
<Jansher>
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quote:
Originally posted by RQ:
quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
My great grandfather came to Guyana in 1891 on the ship SS Sheila at age 20 from Shahabad, Bihar and was indentured to PLN Rosehall.

This is a copy of his Immigration Pass which has been autenticated by the Guyana Ministry of Foreign Affairs.



My 20 ???

Did you find this doc on this recent trip to gy?
Did you take this pic with a digital camera??
I had heard that cameras were not allowed.
It is a good pic, clear n not smudged.Why the FA ministry to authenticate the docs? Necessary?

Lucky guy to have found your Ancestral links.


i will have my neice scan it tomrrow and put it on line. Yes, i will frame it and do not want anyone to question is autenticity. You can do the same. I had the women from the archive stamp and sign it, then took it to the Ministry of F.Affairs to validate it since it will be use to obtain PIO status.
<Jansher>
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RQ what you meant by MY 20??
<BK>
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Jansher, that's the age (20) shown for your foreparent.
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Jansher, that's the age (20) shown for your foreparent.


yes indeed i know that... Big Grin
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RQ what you meant by MY 20??


I meant I will ask several questions??
I was taught that it is better to ask a question instead of 'assume' anything.
Never make an 'ASS - U - ME' Get it!!
Plus I did not know if you may (not) want
to say much on this forum for all to know.
Whatever is confidential, You can email
to my home email. I sent to you.

More of my 20?? later.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
quote:
Originally posted by RQ:
quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
quote:
Originally posted by BK:
Fred,

the answer to your three questions is - no.


On the copywrite issue - Do you know the Amins in GT who owned a gas station??
They are related by marriage- 'chutke' parents
One daughter is a lawyer. Will have her do any docs I need legality on. Will need this for PIO classification as well. I love my India.
Spent some time there last yr.
Did you have your Raksha Bandhan thread tied??
Talk later.
Later

ALL, NO like BK said. All them coolies are just talking. They have gone to the gov. of Guyana and convince them that am not trustworthy, that am anti HIndu, anti PPP, Pro-PNC, Pro Roar and most recently Mr. Singh said that I want to make money from the Project. All the shyte they are saying comes back to me truthfully from people in the GOG. AM done and am not part of any offical project.


When shyte is thrown at you, you throw it back!
When you are a "King", & your kingdom is attacked, you defend it with all you have, even if it means death; like 'Rani of Jhansi'.
You can resist by other means & win the war by engaging in smt strategies, like Alexander.
You are JanSher - fearless Lion - ROOOAAARRRRR!


Yes, I got this immigration certificate on this trip. Previously i was in possession of one which was not my great grandfather. Its the birth records of his children that let to this major achievment.

It was taken by a digital camera without flash. MY camera has a feature that lets me know when everything is in focus.

What can i say, I get all the scoupe from people in office. Right now am just going to hang low. I want to copyrigt... put my name on some historical documents i have before i put them on line. Do you know how i can do that, write over the pic?

I dont know much about Uitvult, but keep me abreast of what you know.
RQ
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quote:
Originally posted by RQ:
quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
quote:
Originally posted by RQ:
quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
quote:
Originally posted by BK:
Fred,

the answer to your three questions is - no.


On the copywrite issue - Do you know the Amins in GT who owned a gas station??
They are related by marriage- 'chutke' parents
One daughter is a lawyer. Will have her do any docs I need legality on. Will need this for PIO classification as well. I love my India.
Spent some time there last yr.
Did you have your Raksha Bandhan thread tied??
Talk later.
Later

ALL, NO like BK said. All them coolies are just talking. They have gone to the gov. of Guyana and convince them that am not trustworthy, that am anti HIndu, anti PPP, Pro-PNC, Pro Roar and most recently Mr. Singh said that I want to make money from the Project. All the shyte they are saying comes back to me truthfully from people in the GOG. AM done and am not part of any offical project.


When shyte is thrown at you, you throw it back!
When you are a "King", & your kingdom is attacked, you defend it with all you have, even if it means death; like 'Rani of Jhansi'.
You can resist by other means & win the war by engaging in smt strategies, like Alexander.
You are JanSher - fearless Lion - ROOOAAARRRRR!


Yes, I got this immigration certificate on this trip. Previously i was in possession of one which was not my great grandfather. Its the birth records of his children that let to this major achievment.

It was taken by a digital camera without flash. MY camera has a feature that lets me know when everything is in focus.

What can i say, I get all the scoupe from people in office. Right now am just going to hang low. I want to copyrigt... put my name on some historical documents i have before i put them on line. Do you know how i can do that, write over the pic?

I dont know much about Uitvult, but keep me abreast of what you know.


On the Uitvlugt issue, I found out last week. that my ??? gg/dad lived there & was a Pandit.
Irony of this info is beyond comprehension after all the religious prejudice thrown out.
2 days ago, more was the Shado-goldsmith people fm L'ra relatives of ??? Surprise!surprise1

HIDDEN SECRETS BEING REVEALED!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by RQ:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jansher:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BK:
Fred,

the answer to your three questions is - no.




Yes, I got this immigration certificate on this trip. Previously i was in possession of one which was not my great grandfather. Its the birth records of his children that let to this major achievment.

It was taken by a digital camera without flash. MY camera has a feature that lets me know when everything is in focus.

What can i say, I get all the scoupe from people in office. Right now am just going to hang low. I want to copyrigt... put my name on some historical documents i have before i put them on line. Do you know how i can do that, write over the pic?

Not sure about writing over the pic. Never did it before. Someone on this forum should be smrt in hi-tech to advise you. I thought yu need a legal advisor for copywrite. Check on this.
If your docs are fm GY, have a GY lawyer do it.
Whatever the country, own legality is safer.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jansher:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RQ:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jansher:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BK:
Fred,

the answer to your three questions is - no.




Yes, I got this immigration certificate on this trip. Previously i was in possession of one which was not my great grandfather. Its the birth records of his children that let to this major achievment.

It was taken by a digital camera without flash. MY camera has a feature that lets me know when everything is in focus.

What can i say, I get all the scoupe from people in office. Right now am just going to hang low. I want to copyrigt... put my name on some historical documents i have before i put them on line. Do you know how i can do that, write over the pic?

Not sure about writing over the pic. Never did it before. Someone on this forum should be smrt in hi-tech to advise you. I thought yu need a legal advisor for copywrite. Check on this.
If your docs are fm GY, have a GY lawyer do it.
Whatever the country, own legality is safer.


i will get the software. Basically, i dont want people to use my pic. So i will write over them. Sunil knows
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My great grandfather came from the district of Shahabad in Bihar, which beame Bhojpur and from 1972 another district was carved from it, Rohtas.

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Shahabad, with headquarters at Arrah was one of the districts of Bihar, India. The district was subsequently bifurcated into a number of districts. Kunwar Singh belonged to this district. This district is often known as Bhojpur and since 1972 the district of Rohtas has been carved out of district. There also used to be a lot of tigers here but most have now been shot for sport. When the ban of shooting tigers came in 1972-3 everyone gave up. But soon poachers came, mainly untouchables who needed money. Today tigers are decently protected.
<Jansher>
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He came from the administrative distict of Karghar which is today in ROHTAS in Bihar not far from here was his village Lindonne.
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